Apple :: MBP - MBu Wear And Tearq
Jul 14, 2009
I've been a user of Toshiba, and Acer laptop(s). My MBu is coming tomorrow, and my friend just got a 13" MBP. Does the trackpad, palmrest get shiny like plastic based laptops? Shiny, etc. (I already ordered a BestSkinEver MBu skin and a silicon keyboard cover) I always wash my hands before using a computer (i know thats weird), but even with that it wore out (my first 2 Toshiba laptops), for Acer I got a vinyl wallpaper liner cut it to my likings and put it on the trakcpad, trackpad buttons, the entire laptop + keyboard cover. that's the only way that i avoided the wear. Does Macbook Unibdoy, MBP share the same problems? ( i know the keyboard does)
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Jun 12, 2009
I am looking into getting one of the new macbook pro's. Though I must say the non removable battery does concern me a bit. In past laptops I have had, I without a doubt saw increased battery wear and tear when I left the batter in the laptop while the laptop itself was plugged in. I completly destroyed a battery on my Dell laptop by doing this for about a month when it was asking as a desktop. I took the laptop which used to get around 4 hrs of battery life and then after a month it got no more than 15 minutes.
So after that I always took the battery out, so now with the new macbook pro's you cannot take the batteries out, so wont the batteries wear down to nothing faster than if you took them out when not using them?
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Jul 19, 2007
My notebook is about 9 months old and the wear level is allready 7%...?
Is this normal or should I call dell and ask for a replacement?
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Oct 6, 2009
I got my hp dv6 last Monday, so it's quite new. About three days ago I downloaded System Information for Windows trying to find out which was my GPU temp(what I didn't find, it only shows only HDD and CPU temp) and looking other stuff I noticed that my battery wear off was 7% while the battery is(was?) also new, so it got me preoccupied, so I checked it again yesterday and it was 9%!, I checked today and it's at 10% . Just c'mon I don't dedicate all my free time to plug and unplug the battery ,so why the fcuk(note there's no grammatical error) it wears off so quickly,
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May 27, 2010
Just a heads up to all the studio XPS owners. I opened up HWmonitor to check some temps and I noted the battery wear level and its 23%! I have only had the laptop since mid February and its degraded this bad very quickly. Needless to say I will be calling Dell and getting a replacement.
But I thought I would bring it to the attention of the community, because its been so helpful for me I try to give back.
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Dec 11, 2009
I bought my Dell Inspiron 1545 about 6 days ago, I decided to install windows XP and drop vista in-order to save the battery life from vista hungry resources but
it didn't go very well i get about 2.15 hours max (with only firefox running and a LAN connection cable plus i shutdown wireless+bluetooth).
from the battery under windows XP, then i read about vista/windows 7 that they have better power management than the ancient XP so i installed the vista basic that came with the laptop but when i measure the battery's wear level which was too late i found out this:
System information for windows: <br />
Battery Bar: <br /> .....
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Aug 29, 2009
Is it normal if BatteryBar is telling me I have 6% wear on my 6-cell if the laptop is only a month and half old?
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Nov 26, 2009
I have a utility reccommended here called BatteryBar. It has a category called Battery wear. What is battery wear? Is it as it sounds, a degradation of the maximum potential of a battery over time? Is there particular actions that cause an increase in battery wear?
I have a 1 week old Acer 1810T. Up until now the battery wear has been 0.0%. However, I let the battery run down to the point that the computer shutdown. I thought this was a good thing. I know in the old days batteries would develop a memory. They recommended a occasion full run down and charge. I think I read this is not true for the Lithium battery, however.
Well, after restarting my computer I see my battery wear is now at 1.4%. Is this because I let it run down? Also, if I want to my battery to last as long as it can, is it better to take it out when using it at home on AC power? That is about 90% of my usage.
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Jan 16, 2010
Does anybody else with a dv5t have excessive battery wear? I purchased the laptop in August of 2008. According to hwmonitor my battery can only hold 30758 mwh down from the designed capacity of 47520 mwh. I rarely used the battery. Maybe once a week for 5 minutes to move the laptop.
I asked a friend with a dv5t purchased around the same time and his capacity is down to nearly 27000 mwh. Our laptops are the same except his has the intel integrated graphics while i got the 9600m gt. Also he uses the battery almost daily.
When i first got the laptop i got nearly 2 hours out of it. Now i can barely get an hour.
We both calibrated our batteries a few times by fully discharging and fully charging a few times which did nothing.
I know that batteries experience wear but does this seem excessive? I believe the estimate is about 10% a year. But this is almost 50% wear in a year and a half.
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May 7, 2009
I have a Pavilion dv6345us that I got back in June 2007 and I like the notebook but one of the main problems is that it keeps messing up the batteries.
The battery it came with ended up dying completely (doesn't hold a charge) within a year or so. Then I bought a 12-cell battery off eBay (generic brand) last summer/fall and now that battery too is almost completely dead.
I don't know if its a problem with the laptop or the battery so I don't know what to do. One thing I do notice is that the computer heats up a lot frequently so maybe that is the reason for the battery wear?
Only thing I have done to the computer is upgrade to 2GB RAM from the 1GB RAM it came with, a month after I bought it.
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Nov 28, 2008
My notebook is Ok, but today after one post here, I dedicated to check my Battery Wear Level.And What a suprise? 5% and my notebook is only on 3 days! Is this someting normal or?
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Mar 9, 2010
I saw some posts about batteries here and thought I might inquire about it for the sxps 1640.
I received my laptop July 2009, along with a new 9-cell battery.
so far, hwinfo32 has determined there is about 6% battery wear.
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Apr 7, 2009
I bought this laptop 5 months ago and I have been monitoring it slowly deteriorating by battery life, it is a 6 cell 4400mAh battery and I use it every day, and make sure not to let it drop below 10% battery power as to not do full discharges and only partial.
I was getting 1hr 50 mins when I first got the laptop which may have been max or min settings I cant remember but anyways which seems not as good as the advertised 2.5 hr battery but I can understand that advertised and actual may differ and max, min would have had an effect. Anyways now after 5 months (Purchased early december) I am only getting 58 mins on full charge at minimum settings, now this does seem quite ridiculous and NHC is reporting 49% wear level.
My question is, is this normal for a Li-Ion Acer battery after 5 months, it seems quite bad to me, and all I can think is the laptop was left on the shelf for a while before i bought it, or that it is defective. I rang acer warranty support and I feel quite fobbed off with them saying this is normal and usage patterns and that their warranty for batteries only last 6 months and I should expect only to get 1/4 of the full charge i did when i purchased after 6 months. So acer is in the business of making low quality batteries?
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Jan 4, 2009
my Sony Vaio FE690 only lasts around 30 min on battery (I tried calibrating, still same life) but every utility that I try (Battery Eater, Notebook control, Everest, etc.) reports a wear level of 0% and a full charge capacity that is the same as the original capacity.
Can anyone confirm that the Sony battery firmware does not report the wear level? I'm wondering if it has something to do with my BIOS upgrade.
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May 23, 2009
I attached two pictures for reference. The first picture is about 1 month from brand new. The second picture is today, about 5 months from new.
Now I do expect eventual wear. Wear happens. However, I generally expect to get a good amount of use out of a product before the wear occurs. I had a Dell 9300 for 3-4 years. Its keyboard has less (cosmetic) wear then my HP at 1/10 the time frame. I literally have to wear down the key to make the key unreadable. With the HP, they just use a light coating of silver over the black plastic that just wears off readily easily, too easily for my taste.
I know I'm not the only one that has this, but I'm curious what everyone else is experiencing as well. As it stands now, my A, S, D, E, N, O, and space bar all have visible wear off of the silver coating.
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Jun 8, 2009
Does anyone have the wired full size apple keyboard w/ the numeric pad?
I got it a couple days ago and it definitely takes some getting used to. But that phase is over now and I love this keyboard. The build quality is amazing and typing feels just like my MBP keyboard.
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May 31, 2009
I have finally switched and should get my first ever mac the new macbook white in next couple of days
I have two questions, I had ordered SODIM DDR2, 800Mhz 4GB RAM and a 500GB, 7200RPM SATA Drive with a thought of upgrading my latitude E6400.
Can I use them (RAM and HDD) and upgrade apple macbook? and will that impact apple warantee?
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Nov 28, 2009
Conventional wisdom holds that one of FAT 32's classical limitations is a 4 Gigabyte files size limit. I've done a few searches on the net, and I find this rule repeated ad-infinitem, without contradiction.
I recently purchased a 320 GB Iomega Prestige external drive that I plan to use interchangeably with my Mac and PC systems. To do this, I re-formatted the disk to a single 320 GB partition with FAT 32 file system (The drive comes formatted NTFS).
Yeah, I know there are work-arounds that would permit me to format it NTFS, and use it read-write on my Mac, and there are probably a few solutions that would permit me to format it Mac OS Extended, and use it my PC. I prefer not to use any "workarounds".
Here's my question.... I had occasion to copy a few files to the drive from my MacBook to the drive, namely my Virtual Machine files, that I don't want to use Time Machine for. I had no problem doing so. The two files exceed 4 Gigabytes handily, with one of them being over 30 Gigabytes! Oops, this can't be done, right?
I ask, how is this possible? I thought I had a 4 Gigabyte limit with FAT 32. Does the fact that I formatted the drive with my Mac give me some sort of advantage that Microsoft's formatting using the same file system does not?
I have read that the reason the FAT 32 files sytem can't store files over 4 Gigabytes, is the insufficient lack of storage within the allocation table for the requisite number of pointers required for a file over 4 Gig in size.
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May 22, 2009
I'm kinda over my 2.4GHz 15" MBP.
Anyone use a 2008 2.8GHz 8-way or a new Nehalem Mac Pro?
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Jul 17, 2009
I'm going to pick up a bigger HDD pretty soon for my rev A Unibody MBP. Would I be able to use the old 250 GB 5400 drive in the PS3? Seems like a worthwhile upgrade. I'm guess since they are aboth SATA it should work, right?
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Feb 26, 2009
I currently own a Sony Vaio FW21M (16.4") and while it's an amazing laptop, it just feels too big to carry Also, is the MBP still small enough to carry around too?
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Nov 28, 2009
Does the Apple MBP accept any type of 1066 MHz SO-DIMM RAM or is it special and has to be bought from Apple?
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Mar 7, 2009
I am going to buy a mac in the near future and am currently conducted the research stage of my purchase.
I have been to a shop to see the MB and the MBP in real and am very very impressed with them.
I am going to be using my new computer for some medium gaming and i'm wondering which will give me more "bang for my buck"
So, what FPS can i expect on the following games: Unreal Tournament 3, WoW, COD:WaW, battlefield Series and L4D. On med- high settings using the Macbook and the Macbook Pro
And also which would you recommend? Any macbook user that wishes they upgraded to Macbook Pro?
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Jun 11, 2009
am i able to install mac OSX on a pc ie dual boot it with windows? i want to try it out but dont want or have the money to buy a whole mac
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Nov 20, 2009
what is a dvd ram? I know it is like a pen drive. so what software do i use to write to it? how do i use it? its write speed is 3x. how does it compare to the ordinary dvd rom? I bought a few Maxell dvd rams.
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Jan 24, 2009
I know that I have stated earlier that I wasn't considering the MBP 17 because the lack of portability, and that I already got a 24" Full HD screen.
But the thing is; I might be able to get the MBP 17 for the same price as the highend MBP 15, because of all the hassle etc that occurred.
I feel like, I don't really need the extra screen estate, I already think the 15" is barely portable, but the 17" got a great battery etc.
When it comes to what I'm going to use the computer for; mainly light stuff the coming time, but after that I'm going to start using final cut pro a lot and I know the 15" screen isn't enough for the ui of the program and the 17 is enough.
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Jan 26, 2009
I would really like to upgrade my MBP to 8 GB of Ram as I use lots of VMWares in my job. I read that you can do 6 GB but I also saw some people trying 8GB of RAM on even older MBPs.
I read this with interest:
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I'm sure you have also seen the article about the MBP only doing 6GB and not 8GB.
Has anybody here tried 8GB? With the 17" supporting 8GB, boy I wish they would allow it on older MBPs.
I'm hoping with Snow Leopard that 8GB becomes an option.
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Jan 17, 2010
I am planning to buy base MBP sometime in next two weeks and then upgrade it to larger HDD by myself. I am wondering if the HDD that comes out of MBP can be used in my dying Dell Inspiron 640m (bought in 2007 and has 120 GB drive which has started to show signs of crashing anytime now).
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Jan 6, 2009
I need to pick up a new notebook soon and I'm having a hard time deciding between the MB and the MBP. This will be my main computer and I do a good amount of traveling. Accordingly, I really want the portability of the MB, but I also really want the superior LCD of the MBP. Are there any other major differences I'm missing that might sway me? I'll be using this mainly for office applications and web surfing, but I'll also be doing occasional work in Adobe CS4 (I understand this would benefit from the MBP's dedicated graphics card).
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Nov 28, 2009
I have a 15" uMBP (integrated battery).
Has anyone tried the 12.5mm 1 TB drive in their uMBP?
Has anyone seen deals out there this weekend on the drive, i've not seen any.
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