Acer :: 1810T - Battery Wear
Nov 26, 2009
I have a utility reccommended here called BatteryBar. It has a category called Battery wear. What is battery wear? Is it as it sounds, a degradation of the maximum potential of a battery over time? Is there particular actions that cause an increase in battery wear?
I have a 1 week old Acer 1810T. Up until now the battery wear has been 0.0%. However, I let the battery run down to the point that the computer shutdown. I thought this was a good thing. I know in the old days batteries would develop a memory. They recommended a occasion full run down and charge. I think I read this is not true for the Lithium battery, however.
Well, after restarting my computer I see my battery wear is now at 1.4%. Is this because I let it run down? Also, if I want to my battery to last as long as it can, is it better to take it out when using it at home on AC power? That is about 90% of my usage.
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Apr 7, 2009
I bought this laptop 5 months ago and I have been monitoring it slowly deteriorating by battery life, it is a 6 cell 4400mAh battery and I use it every day, and make sure not to let it drop below 10% battery power as to not do full discharges and only partial.
I was getting 1hr 50 mins when I first got the laptop which may have been max or min settings I cant remember but anyways which seems not as good as the advertised 2.5 hr battery but I can understand that advertised and actual may differ and max, min would have had an effect. Anyways now after 5 months (Purchased early december) I am only getting 58 mins on full charge at minimum settings, now this does seem quite ridiculous and NHC is reporting 49% wear level.
My question is, is this normal for a Li-Ion Acer battery after 5 months, it seems quite bad to me, and all I can think is the laptop was left on the shelf for a while before i bought it, or that it is defective. I rang acer warranty support and I feel quite fobbed off with them saying this is normal and usage patterns and that their warranty for batteries only last 6 months and I should expect only to get 1/4 of the full charge i did when i purchased after 6 months. So acer is in the business of making low quality batteries?
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Nov 19, 2009
I just bought an 1810T two days ago. It is suppose to have an 8+ hour battery. However, with the setting on Power Saver it is the BatteryBar utility is telling me 6 1/2 hours after a full charge.
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Jan 14, 2010
I recently bought 1810T. It has W7 ultimate 64bit and 3303 bios installed. Unfortunately there is the issue that battery is discharging for about 5-8% per day when laptop is off (shut down).
I've disabled all "wake on" properties in network adapter driver properties but
unfortunately it does not help.
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Jan 5, 2010
I installed Windows 7 Ultimate, downloaded software/installed software the entire time, and browsed the internet).
Anyway, I plugged it in today, and it's been charging for just over 4 hours now and it's only at 78%...is this unusually slow to charge? Should I send mine back? I've never had a proper working battery take this long to charge, even 9 cells.
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Jun 12, 2009
I am looking into getting one of the new macbook pro's. Though I must say the non removable battery does concern me a bit. In past laptops I have had, I without a doubt saw increased battery wear and tear when I left the batter in the laptop while the laptop itself was plugged in. I completly destroyed a battery on my Dell laptop by doing this for about a month when it was asking as a desktop. I took the laptop which used to get around 4 hrs of battery life and then after a month it got no more than 15 minutes.
So after that I always took the battery out, so now with the new macbook pro's you cannot take the batteries out, so wont the batteries wear down to nothing faster than if you took them out when not using them?
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Oct 6, 2009
I got my hp dv6 last Monday, so it's quite new. About three days ago I downloaded System Information for Windows trying to find out which was my GPU temp(what I didn't find, it only shows only HDD and CPU temp) and looking other stuff I noticed that my battery wear off was 7% while the battery is(was?) also new, so it got me preoccupied, so I checked it again yesterday and it was 9%!, I checked today and it's at 10% . Just c'mon I don't dedicate all my free time to plug and unplug the battery ,so why the fcuk(note there's no grammatical error) it wears off so quickly,
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May 27, 2010
Just a heads up to all the studio XPS owners. I opened up HWmonitor to check some temps and I noted the battery wear level and its 23%! I have only had the laptop since mid February and its degraded this bad very quickly. Needless to say I will be calling Dell and getting a replacement.
But I thought I would bring it to the attention of the community, because its been so helpful for me I try to give back.
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Dec 11, 2009
I bought my Dell Inspiron 1545 about 6 days ago, I decided to install windows XP and drop vista in-order to save the battery life from vista hungry resources but
it didn't go very well i get about 2.15 hours max (with only firefox running and a LAN connection cable plus i shutdown wireless+bluetooth).
from the battery under windows XP, then i read about vista/windows 7 that they have better power management than the ancient XP so i installed the vista basic that came with the laptop but when i measure the battery's wear level which was too late i found out this:
System information for windows: <br />
Battery Bar: <br /> .....
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Aug 29, 2009
Is it normal if BatteryBar is telling me I have 6% wear on my 6-cell if the laptop is only a month and half old?
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Jan 16, 2010
Does anybody else with a dv5t have excessive battery wear? I purchased the laptop in August of 2008. According to hwmonitor my battery can only hold 30758 mwh down from the designed capacity of 47520 mwh. I rarely used the battery. Maybe once a week for 5 minutes to move the laptop.
I asked a friend with a dv5t purchased around the same time and his capacity is down to nearly 27000 mwh. Our laptops are the same except his has the intel integrated graphics while i got the 9600m gt. Also he uses the battery almost daily.
When i first got the laptop i got nearly 2 hours out of it. Now i can barely get an hour.
We both calibrated our batteries a few times by fully discharging and fully charging a few times which did nothing.
I know that batteries experience wear but does this seem excessive? I believe the estimate is about 10% a year. But this is almost 50% wear in a year and a half.
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May 7, 2009
I have a Pavilion dv6345us that I got back in June 2007 and I like the notebook but one of the main problems is that it keeps messing up the batteries.
The battery it came with ended up dying completely (doesn't hold a charge) within a year or so. Then I bought a 12-cell battery off eBay (generic brand) last summer/fall and now that battery too is almost completely dead.
I don't know if its a problem with the laptop or the battery so I don't know what to do. One thing I do notice is that the computer heats up a lot frequently so maybe that is the reason for the battery wear?
Only thing I have done to the computer is upgrade to 2GB RAM from the 1GB RAM it came with, a month after I bought it.
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Nov 28, 2008
My notebook is Ok, but today after one post here, I dedicated to check my Battery Wear Level.And What a suprise? 5% and my notebook is only on 3 days! Is this someting normal or?
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Mar 9, 2010
I saw some posts about batteries here and thought I might inquire about it for the sxps 1640.
I received my laptop July 2009, along with a new 9-cell battery.
so far, hwinfo32 has determined there is about 6% battery wear.
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Jan 4, 2009
my Sony Vaio FE690 only lasts around 30 min on battery (I tried calibrating, still same life) but every utility that I try (Battery Eater, Notebook control, Everest, etc.) reports a wear level of 0% and a full charge capacity that is the same as the original capacity.
Can anyone confirm that the Sony battery firmware does not report the wear level? I'm wondering if it has something to do with my BIOS upgrade.
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Feb 16, 2010
Is it possible to have both ssd and hdd? Ok there is not enough room for both, but, beside that, could it be possible to use at the same time ssd and hdd?
Like ssd for os, and hdd for boot? Doesn't the mobo have 2 sata channel?
Btw could be a nice idea to use the pcie expansion slot where to put a 1.8 sized drive...
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Dec 20, 2009
I recently bought a N-wireless gigabit router. It is DLink DIR-655. It is reporting the connect to my 1810T AGN wireless is using G. I'm wondering why if my computer supports N and the router supports N, why am I not getting N?
When I checked properties of my wireless card in my 1810T it tells me it is a Intel WiFi Link 5100 AGN. If I check the properties and it shows N is enabled. However, under Wireless Mode it is set to 802.11a/b/g. Also, while there are several options that include a, b, and g, there is no option for N.
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Mar 7, 2010
I actually have a Gateway EC1815U and heard it is identical to the acer 1810t.
In the Gateway bios (insyde) I see an option for a device on IDE1. IDE0 is used for the internal hard drive.
I am wondering if there is either
1- a way to expose the 2nd IDE externally to use like a eSATA device with it
or
2 - Be able to install a 2nd IDE device like a SSD to use that interface
I'm wondering out loud and checking here to see if anyone can offer some advice.
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Feb 11, 2010
Would a CL4 ddr2 800 be a noticeable upgrade compared to CL6 ddr 800? Could I see a performance improvement?
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Feb 7, 2010
I've found out that the webcam is a Suyin, I installed drivers from acer website.. and the result is still terrible.
The webcam is so slow, like 1 fps. Even when not in videocall and using acer crystal eye webcam to set it, it's slow, pixelated and sloow.. I don't mind about the colour, yellowish but adjustable, but I do mind about the fps and quality.
I guess it's a driver matter, because the driver installed is the microsoft's standard one. But I couldn't manage to get better results, also some of the settings like auto and white balance or camera control are not selectable.
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Nov 11, 2009
After a few days of happy 1810T ownership, the computer has begun to have a problem where the screen locks up tight. Nothing revives the computer except holding the power button down to force a powerdown. It reboots OK but shows the screen to optionally boot into Safe Mode.
The screen is a random color when this happens: sometimes green, blue or red. It is NOT the traditional "blue screen of death".
At first I thought it was due to some problems I was having with a conflict between The KM Player and Adobe Flash (as detailed here and here, for example). Luckily I had done Acronis 2010 images at each step of the way in the "new notebook" process:
- image made right out of the box by booting from Acronis disc first, before ever running Win7 on the computer (I call this the "Day 0 Image")
- image made after doing Windows Updates, Windows Security Essentials, installing apps (KM Player, IrfanView, FireFox, etc) and user data
Thinking the problem was due to the KM Player conflicts, I restored the computer back to when there was no KM Player, i.e. out-of-the-box Day 0 Image. This went fine and Acronis worked smoothly.
I did the Windows Updates but did not install any apps or user data... and the screen lockup still happens! Sometimes it happens soon after login, other times things run OK for a while first.
I am really concerned about this. If I can't rely on the computer to not lock up regularly, it is essentially useless to me. I am very surprised to see the problem even after an "out of the box" disk restore.
Any suggestions? Even if you don't have knowledge of how to deal with this problem specifically, do you know where else I can ask? What will Acer's take on this be? I am afraid they will just pass it off as "user error" and leave me stuck...
To Add:
1) I can't remember if this has happened only when on battery, or also when plugged in. I will check and see if it happens in both modes. If it only happens when on battery, at least that shows a path forward.
2) I have not tried to restore via the Acer eRecovery DVDs yet, though I don't know why this would be any better than the Acronis 2010 Day 0 image. I was in the process of burning the first Acer recovery DVD last night when... the screen locked up!
3) I have emailed Acer Support about the problem, though I suspect they won't trust Acronis 2010 and they'll tell me to restore via Acer eRecovery DVD...
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Nov 7, 2009
I'm looking at picking up an AS1810T to replace my Samsung NC10 netbook and my HP DV8230US laptop.
I was looking at an MSI earlier due to its better warranty (3 years) and better price ($450 as opposed to $600)...but unfortunately, the lack of VT on the T6600 is a deal-breaker.
Does Acer have Virtualization enabled on the AS1810T? The SU7300 has it, but I want to make sure that there's nothing else that would prevent me from being able to use the laptop properly...as VMWare and XP Mode are requirements for what I'll be doing with it.
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Feb 12, 2010
just got my son the 1810TZ and reinstalled with Win7 64Bit Ultimate.
I now cannot get the wifi to work no matter what. Thoughts? Is it an Atheros? I have installed the atheros package as well as all other drivers that say wifi with no luck...keep getting network cable unplugged and in system properties it identifies a network controller to which there are no drivers installed...
I thought Win 7 would pick up all poss hardware for the most part. I never had this prob on my 1810T-6188.
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Nov 19, 2009
My Acer 1810T has Windows 7 Home Premium x64 installed and it is using a Microsoft Webcam driver version 6.1.7600.16385 dated 6/21/2006.
On Acer's site, they list 3 Camera drivers for Windows 7 Home Premium x64:
Chicony - 1.1.95.71
liteon - 0.905
Suyin - 5.2.7.1
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Oct 30, 2009
I put on cpu-z ( I got the crappy ram like some of the others) but what I thought was odd that it said FSB was 800 and multiplier was 8 and indicated my CPU was running at 1.6Ghz. Is this an error on CPU-z?
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Feb 22, 2010
Is it adviceable to delete the old preinstalled partition just to install w7 ultimate?
I have on HDD 12GB of recovery partition, 100MB of system , and 280 of OS.
What would you do.. erase all and proceed with new fresh W7? Is it risky?
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May 4, 2010
I got my new 1810T and after opening it up, the first thing I noticed was that the touchpad buttons are not even.
By "even" I mean they're not level with each other. The left button sits a little higher on its right side and the right button sits lower on its left side.
Anyone else experience this? Is this something that has a simple fix like the double-sided tape for the mushy keyboard?
Also, I went into the device manager, opened up the monitor properties and when I choose "Hardware Ids" it shows this:
MONITORCMO1100
What type of panel do I have?
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Oct 24, 2009
I have the Asus PVR and have a bunch of movies in H.264 format. Can anyone tell me if they play well on the 1410. I will buy the 1810T if I have to but the 1410 fits my pocket better and if it does everything I need it to I can live with the minus 2 hours on the battery.
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Apr 20, 2010
I've noticed our new 1810T's arrow and PageUp/PageDown keys often don't respond to presses, specifically when pressed higher on the key (along the upper border as someone says in one of the 1810T owner threads). This ends up happening quite a lot the way I situate my hands over the keyboard and the touchpad, and is a serious issue for me since I'm using these keys a lot in the development environment I use. As referenced above I've seen a few mentions of this issue on the forum, but no clear confirmation whether it is normal for the 1810T. Can anyone with a 1810T out there verify whether their unit exhibits this issue?
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Feb 1, 2010
is it possible to overclock this version of 1810T?
I've read about a mode to apply, but it was for SU3500, I dunno if it's needed also for SU7300.
Second question, is: this Kingston Hyperix 2x4GB 800MHz memory at 4-4-4-12 timings compatible with this laptop?
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