Dell :: 8400M GS Dying
Dec 7, 2008
Is my 8400M GS dying?
The other day I started to have intermittent 'display driver has stopped responding and has resumed' messages after the display blanks for a bit.
I checked my performance. In RTHDRIBL where I used to get high 40's to low 50's fps, I now get in the 20's, 30's, and 40's.
Then I checked some of the games (which I haven't played in a long while). Colin Mcrae Rally 5.0 and UT 2004 are so stuttery that they are unplayable.
I tried various driver versions thinking that the latest driver version from windows update was causing it, but have not had any success.
I also uninstalled Avast anti-virus and Rivatuner in case bad settings were the cause.
WEI score used to be 4.1/4.7, and is now 3.7/4.5
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Feb 22, 2010
the screen went black, then returned to the desktop and reported an error with my graphics card’s driver (8600M GT with the latest driver from Nvidia 195.62 or something similar).
This process then repeated and I was confronted with the dreaded BSOD!!
So thinking something had corrupted with the driver, i booted into safe mode and began reinstalling the drivers again.
This all went fine, up until tonight when I was unwittingly enjoying some call of duty and this happened...
The screen juddered for about a second then froze on that image .....
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Jul 22, 2007
I'm coming up on the end of my 1-year warranty, and quite a few things have started to fail on my beloved E1705, so I thought I'd make sure I know exactly what's up before I call Dell -- the last (and only) time I called them to get something (a keyboard) replaced, I was on the phone for hours. As I need quite a lot more replaced than a $50 keyboard, I'm a bit nervous.
First of all, I think my GPU's (256MB 7900GS) failing.
(I'll replace these if they're way too big -- native resolution, and I 'unno if notebookforums has a thumbnail system)
From what I've been able to gather, that would be the vRAM going bad? Points on the screen connecting to other random points and stretching the texture to get there. Also, on top of that, I get a lot of snow in loading screens, and stuck pixels (usually red) when the GPU's warmed up -- usually ~50-65C (under load). I've also noticed a performance decline, getting about half the FPS in most situations I did compared to when the PC was new (and yes, it's still clean, the HDD is pretty much empty, defragmented, drivers up to date).
Also, the main problem, is I often get the NMI Parity Error: Hardware Malfunction when playing games. It used to be 2-3 times a day when the problem first presented itself, now it's within 5-10 minutes of starting a game, rendering them unplayable. I think this'd also be the GPU?
M'kay, so on top of that, I think there's something going on with my sound port. One day my speakers just stopped working. I thought I'd messed up the drivers or software or something, but headphones worked fine. I came across an old post about the motherboard on this notebook, and it was mentioned that if one applied pressure to the headphone jack (which the headphones were unplugged), the speakers would begin to work. Sure enough, that's the case -- press on the headphone jack and audio comes through the internal speakers. So that means the port's starting to come loose? It seems like I would need to get the entire motherboard replaced?
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Jun 19, 2009
I've had my m1530 for around 15 months or so... and while going old school and playing nfsu2, i got this!
Is the graphics card dying? Was it a driver issue?
Problem was solved when i restarted the computer....
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Oct 30, 2007
I was wrapping up another late evening of gaming when my game froze and artifacts and red-blue-green pixels took over the screen. I was anew by this, it had never happened before, so I tried to alt+ctrl+del my way out of it and then my machine blue screened and died. I rebooted it and got the Windows boot menu offering safe mode /w networking w/ command prompt and start windows normally, etc. Except there was one ungodly thing different here, everything was misspelled. It offered me 'Start gindogs normally' among other nonsense. When I tried to boot this gindogs thing it wouldn't go past the Windows XP boot-loader and would just give me vertical lines of random colors before blacking out on me.
I tried to reboot a few more times to see if anything new would happen and I noted a few new things. The Dell logo on the boot-screen is covered with white dots and horizontal white lines.
could it be a GPU failure, or a Intel-shat-itself failure?
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Nov 12, 2008
Just this morning I was using my notebook (E1505) for my homework. Than I went to class, plugged it in and the light on the adaptor didnt come on.
I tried different outlets and the same thing.
I unwravelled my cord, and the problem seemed to go away, (for now)
I guess i need to replace my power adaptor.
How long do you think it will take to get a new one?
I have the highest warranty thing Dell offers
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Feb 17, 2009
I am dual booting Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit and Windows 7 b7000 32-bit. The laptop has the copper mod on 7/28/2008 with very good results. It lowered my idle for GPU by 11C and full load by 21C (very good in full load). But my two recent BSOD from Vista and Win7 make me think my GPU is dying, but it doesn't have the typical vertical line problems like other owners. Likewise, it's working perfectly fine after each BSOD (until the second one in Win7).
BSOD in Vista (see attached picture):
*** Hardware Malfunction
Call your hardware vendor for support
NMI: Parity Check/Memory Parity Error
*** The system has halted ***
No event viewer log or memory dump available. Notice the short black bars visible on the blue background. I don't know where those bars are coming from. There are a few white words were NOT static. Some text were shifting during the photograph.
BSOD in Win7 (no picture due to automatic restart):
See attachment of mock-up made in Vista desktop. It's nowhere near what I saw, but it has a similar short strokes of light on a black background. My background was a picture of GREEN grass blades.
The second BSOD occurred while watching YouTube on the same day as the one in Vista. Basically, the screen was fine then suddenly it turned black with short strokes of color showing through where the icons are. About one second later, the screen gets to the classic BSOD blue, but this blue is black instead with the same short strokes of color. And then the laptop restarts after the memory dump, and everything is normal again including the POST.
The GPU averaged around 60C while the CPU was about 50C using HWMonitor. I never had these weird looking BSOD, especially ones with artifacts. It's the artifacts that make me more suspicious. Log file from Windows 7 below:
Quote:
Source = BugCheck, Event ID = 1001
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000124 (0x00000000, 0x857cc024, 0xf2000040, 0x00000800). A dump was saved in: X:WindowsMEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 021709-24913-01...........
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Dec 5, 2009
Well it looks like my old TX51B is on the end of it's way.
Until last week it was on stock XP.
My wife experienced, that lately the computer often stuck (like 10x per day, can't move cursor,
no response at all) and it's needed to turn it off by holding the power button. Also it restarted randomly.
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Sep 17, 2009
My M4400 6-Cell battery goes for about 45min on full charge. Ive had my laptop for a year now. Is this normal that it dies so quickly?...
I started noticing this a week or two ago and now on startup I even get a notification saying "your battery life is decreasing, now is a good time to buy a replacement battery"...
I dont remember how long my Inspiron 8200 laptops battery lasted but it feels like this one gave in really quickly. I do use my laptop a lot. Its on most of the day....
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Jun 13, 2009
I've heard some stories of XPS systems (m1330/m1530) imploding after 1.5 years... anyone have any firsthand/secondhand info on the percentage of these or have I just heard about a few random people who have been unfortunate enough to have had disasters?
I have the nVidia GPU in my m1330, if that makes any difference - I heard about those dying, but I was under the impression that problem popped up out of the box and not 1.5 years down the road?
It's my only computer, so I use it most of the day, but I don't game (mostly word processing, browsing, working etc) and I try to be gentle with it.
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Jan 10, 2010
One day as I'm turning on the computer (2008 imac) somebody (not going to say who) decides to just turn the computer off just about 3-4 seconds after I clicked the power button. When I booted up the computer again many things were wrong.
1. The computer runs extremely slow, both in my windows and mac partitions, I've pretty much concluded that this is hard drive problem since it takes forever to load applications and they run slow if and when they do finally load up.
2. Boot time is much greater, takes several minutes to fully boot up either of the partitions.
So I basically try to figure out what was wrong. I perform disk repair and verify disk operations from the disk utility, and the problem persists. I reinstall the mac OS (Leopard) with the archiving option. The problems still persist. It gets to a point where I can no longer even boot into the mac partition and if I try it keeps restarting itself.
One time a no smoking sign came up without the cigarette (if that makes sense). The windows partition continues to run even slower. Sometimes I can't even log in to my account on the windows side and the computer freezes up. Eventually I ended wiping the mac partition completely and doing a fresh install of Leopard. It fixed the problem somewhat but I feel the mac isn't running as fast it was before and there are other problems. If I update to 10.5.8 the update fails with an error saying something about airport scripts.....
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It is not a driver issue. I've tried changing drivers to no avail. I even completely rebuilt my machine from a clean build a month or so ago. The problem remains.
The computer is a couple years old now, but I don't put lot of junk on it so it still runs fast. And the light casing is great. I really don't want tohave to buy a new machine.
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I've had my Inspiron 1420 for about a year and a half now, with virtually no problems except when dealing with Windows Vista. But, about a month ago, I was playing a very graphics intensive game and all of a sudden my screen froze, colors inverted, and it started to flash and pixelate at me. I turned my computer off, then back on, and this started happening:
I turned my computer off again and blew out all the dust I could, then let it cool down. When I started back up everything was fine again. But about a week later, it did the same thing, but for longer.
About an hour later it was fine again. A couple weeks went by and nothing like that happened again, up until about three days ago. I was playing my game again and then it started to pixelate, but I could still play. The screen would scramble, but it was almost like it would refresh every 10 seconds or so and the screen would be fine. That night, I was (again) playing my game and my screen scrambled, froze, and went to your basic blue screen.
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May 24, 2010
i have a dell inspiron 1720 with a GeForce 8400M GS 128 ya i know it sucks but anyways when i go to dell or do a google all im seen is that the 8400 is a 256 ddr is this right? i run a program called TechPowerUp GPU and its saying 128 to did they make a 128 and a 256?
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Jan 26, 2009
don't do this, unless you have the copper mod.
But I overclocked from 400/600 to 525/900, and the difference in performance was huge!
3DMark06 before: 1,700'ish
after: 2,077 !
RTHDRIBL 640 x 480 window before: ~ 50 fps
after: ~ 70 fps
----> around 40% increase!
W.E.I.: Aero/Gaming Graphics before: 4.1 / 4.7
after: 4.8 / 5.2
The good news is that my load temp has only increased a few degrees:
before: 72C
after: 75C
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Dec 6, 2008
I recently bought a laptop and before it ships I have been looking around at how the 8400m GS performs. The video card is labeled at 128 mb but many people have been posting on forums about how they're cards are telling them they have 256mb instead of 128.
More commonly, Youtube videos are all titled 8400m GS *256*. Is the 128mb version just really uncommon? Or is it really 256 mb. I also stumbled upon something called Turbo Cache (not sure if that's the right name for it) that has the GPU use some of my systems RAM...Isn't that what integrated chipsets do?
Anyway here's my system:
XPS M1530 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T8100 (2.1GHz/800Mhz FSB, 3MB Cache)
3 GB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz (2 DIMMs)
320 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM)
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
If anyone knows anything about Turbo Cache or how this card performs with World of Warcraft.
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using xps m1330. the laptopvideo2go forum page on that release didn't state...
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I've owned a ThinkPad T430 for about one year now. Originally I was fairly impressed with the battery life (around 4.5 hours) but now after owning it for a year I am very unimpressed with it's short 3 hour life now.
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I have read that batteries should be expected to do this, although I have friends with a MacBook Pro which has lost maybe 20% of it's charge over three years not one year like my ThinkPad!
My specs are listed below:
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OS: Windows 8 (upgraded from 7)
Ram: 8GB (4*2 DIMM - came with 4GB and I upgrade it with 4 more)
CPU: i5-3210M 2.5GHZ
Hard Drive: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (upgraded from the 320GB 7200RPM HDD before...if I have got those specs right)
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I recently installed the new SSD and expected to see my battery life shoot up again (hopefully at least half an hour) but I really haven't noticed any such improvement.
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I use the battery frequently for school and run the battery down to about 20% maybe twice a week on school weeks?
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Is this kind of deterioration to be expected and should I simply purchase a new battery if I need that extra 1.5 hours?
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According to the Windows 8 battery report the original full charge capacity was: 49,286 mWh, now it is: 39,780 mWh.
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Feb 28, 2010
I own a vostro1510 with a 8400m gs. i am a casual gamer and during gaming gpu goes upto 85c. i am worried about my gpu as we all know about the failure rate of 8400 and 8600. my warranty is going to expire on sep 15 so do you guys recommend me going for extended warranty? i find it a bit costly.
remember my laptop was purchased on sep 15 2008 and my mobo was replaced few months back(not due to failing gpu). someone also told me that the replacement gpu's are not defective is it so?
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Oct 28, 2008
When did your 8400M GS Fail, if at all?
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Jun 5, 2009
Currently my M1530 has the nvidia 8400M GS chip in it. I'm thinking about swapping the motherboard out for one with an 8600M chip on it.
My question is, will it make much of a difference? How much greater is the 8600M w/ 256mb versus the 8400M w/ 128mb that is currently in my machine? Look forward to your responses.
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Aug 28, 2009
Anyone knows a good drivers for the 8400M GS card tweaked for good performance?
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Jul 19, 2007
How crappy is the NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8400M GS really? I am using a 7800gtx in my inspron 9300. Just ordered a 1330--- is the 8400 superior to the 7800gtx?
on a related note, is there anyway to upgrade the NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8400M GS to a different video card? Is any other nvidia card compatible?
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Oct 26, 2008
buying second hand, 2yr warranty left
however person said he had graphics problems and his computer was serviced (motherboard replaced).
I dont want to have it die on me later on, price is good compared to other systems where I live (same price as a new vostro 1310).
bottom line, whats the probability this would happen again ? any chance of a perm fix ?
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Apr 28, 2009
well basically my question is in the title...but i was wonder is there anyway i can lower the watt draw (11 watts stock) while im on battery power.
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May 25, 2009
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Feb 22, 2010
So I have a broken Nvidia Geforce 8400m GS GPU on my Vostro 1400 out-of-warranty (even with Nvidia extension) laptop and Dell wants $240 to repair it.
That money could probably go to a new laptop, but I was still wondering if there was a way I could go for a do-it-yourself repair. How would I go about replacing the GPU? Is there a guide for this somewhere I could look for?
I'm guessing I will need to order a replacement motherboard from Dell to do this, but I'd rather attempt repairing the laptop on my own rather than send it to Dell's out-of-warranty repair depot. I've taken apart PCs before, but have never taken apart a laptop.
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Jul 2, 2008
Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS - Copper Mod - Step by Step Guide
Dell XPS M1330 Notebook with nVidia GeForce 8400M GS GPU has an inadequate Thermal Cooling Assembly. It uses a Thermal Cooling Pad between the GPU and the GPU Thermal Cooling Assembly instead of a direct contact between the two with a Thermal Compound. This leads to overheating the GPU and damaging it along with other components. The solution is to replace the existing Thermal Cooling Pad with a Copper Sheet and a Thermal Compound.
Note: This Copper Mod does not solve problems arising from a weak die/packaging material set in certain versions of GPU. Their failure appears related to the combination of the interaction between the chip material set and the system design. The combination of limited thermal management and frequent power cycling is particularly challenging for the GPU. Dell is offering a 12 Month Limited Warranty Enhancement specific to this issue. However, this Copper Mod might help delay the failure by improving the thermal management.
Materials:
01. Copper Sheet. Recommended: Gauge 16 & Grade C106 - 14x14x1.5mm.
02. Thermal Compound. Recommended: Arctic Silver 5.
03. Thermal Compound Cleaner (Isopropyl Alcohol or Acetone).
04. Cotton Swabs.
05. Paper Napkins.
Tools:
01. Phillips Screwdriver - #0.
02. Utility Knife.
03. Thermal Compound Spreader.
Drivers & Utilities: (for Microsoft Windows Vista 32 Bit)
01. Dell XPS M1330 A13 - 1.02MB. (BIOS Firmware). Recommended.
02. Dell nVidia GeForce 8400M GS 176.44 A10 - 52.70MB. (Video Driver). Recommended.
03. HWMonitor 1.11 - 397.00KB. (Monitor GPU, CPU, Chipset and HDD Temperatures).
04. GPU-Z 0.2.8 - 410.00KB. (Monitor GPU Clocks).
05. I8kfanGUI 3.1 - 1.61MB. (Monitor Fan Status and Speed).
06. RivaTuner 2.11 - 2.30MB. (Monitor GPU Status on OSD).
07. 3DMark06 Basic Edition 1.1.0 - 413.00MB. (Benchmark GPU).
08. Intel Thermal Analysis Tool 2.05 - 3.31MB. (Benchmark CPU).
Procedures:
Before You Begin!
01. Disassemble the Module Cover by loosening the four Screws.
| 1 - M2.5x5mm Screw (1) | 2 - Captive Screws (3) | 3 - Module Cover (1) | Image: Dell Service Manual |......................
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