Currently my M1530 has the nvidia 8400M GS chip in it. I'm thinking about swapping the motherboard out for one with an 8600M chip on it.
My question is, will it make much of a difference? How much greater is the 8600M w/ 256mb versus the 8400M w/ 128mb that is currently in my machine? Look forward to your responses.
I just discovered an interesting issue after undervolting my DV9700's CPU and overclocking its graphics chip but forgot to post it earlier. When playing GTAIV (which is extremely GPU intensive as you know), the whole notebook will get warm. I already know from FurMark that my 8400M GS will reach 80C in its current configuration so i can understand why the thing gets warm. However the fan always runs at minimum speed when playing GTAIV...
This leads me to believe that the cooling fan is exclusively controlled by the CPU temperature. It wouldn't matter if the graphics chip would be on fire - the fan will still not ramp up unless the CPU reaches the temperature threshold. I'll check exactly what these threshold values are later, but i remember that on my DV5 it's 75C for high and 85C for maximum. The fans on these things have 4 speeds IIRC.
Now, my DV9700 is a large and rather solidly built machine. It easily copes with the heat even with the fan turned down, i have no issues with GTAIV or any other game, and if you recall it had a faulty fan when i got it yet it was still able to work for 20 minutes before reaching shutdown temperature.
But if this is true for all laptops, i can see why these GPUs fail. Notebook manufacturers should consider implementing a fan controller that reads from both CPU and GPU sensors.
Was using Google Earth Pro and the screen blanked out for a second before being restored. The error was as below
"Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered."
The references to this error seem to infer that the GPU is close to death, and the error will get progressively worse. Anyone else had this error and survived? I've had the laptop less than 4 weeks.
I'm really not keen on getting the laptop replaced and possibly ending up with a poorer display i.e. more screen bleed.
dell is no longer offering the Nvidia 8600m gt, they only offering only the 8400 in this system,
is this just coincidence? they gonna finaly take out the m1530 and m1330 systems? and if we, happy customers of the m1530, get in some trouble with this graphics card, they probably gonna replace with a Studio XPS 16? of similar specs? cause they wont have 8600m for replacement
i dont know about u but i dont like te studio xps 16, first bigger, heavier, and not as stylish as the .
Is the 8600M GT good enough for games such as Battlefield 2? I read a 4,000 plus benchmark somehwere...but others were mid 3000s on 3Dmark06...That's not much, but I think it's faster than my X800 XT is in the XPs desktop which plays BF2 fine.
I'm going to be going with a new gaming desktop within a year or so, but I still want the laptop to be able to handle BF2!
Anyone own the 1530 yet? Found good reviews?
I'm trying to figure out something: Is my GPU heating a little too much when I play World of Warcraft?
GPU Temperature in WoW: ±72°C
Driver: 175.97 (recommended by a lot of users here)
What temperatures are you guys getting in WoW?
just had my vista reformatted and was wondering whats the latest or the best performance driver to date for this card?
View 10 Replies View RelatedSo, doing some research it seems that the Matrox dual or triple head2go is the pricey solution to running more than 2 external monitors. Are there other solutions to running 2 or more external monitors without shutting down the laptop screen?
I was thinking hdmi to one screen then 2 usb to dvi to the two other screens, but don't know if this will shut off the screen on my laptop.
Fair enough my hdd is only 5200rpm not 7k+ but 4gb ram and 2.4 intel core duo my FPS in WOW can drop to like 5 and thats with lowest gfx settings.
Beaware WOW has developed and a new add-on came out last year with better graphics...
I don't know what to do I love the portability of M1530 but the GFX side of things seems . I know its only a mid ranged gaming/performance laptop but its a shame you cannot upgrade it...
Anyone know any alterative laptops with like double gfx performance with same portability
i have a dell inspiron 1720 with a GeForce 8400M GS 128 ya i know it sucks but anyways when i go to dell or do a google all im seen is that the 8400 is a 256 ddr is this right? i run a program called TechPowerUp GPU and its saying 128 to did they make a 128 and a 256?
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The other day I started to have intermittent 'display driver has stopped responding and has resumed' messages after the display blanks for a bit.
I checked my performance. In RTHDRIBL where I used to get high 40's to low 50's fps, I now get in the 20's, 30's, and 40's.
Then I checked some of the games (which I haven't played in a long while). Colin Mcrae Rally 5.0 and UT 2004 are so stuttery that they are unplayable.
I tried various driver versions thinking that the latest driver version from windows update was causing it, but have not had any success.
I also uninstalled Avast anti-virus and Rivatuner in case bad settings were the cause.
WEI score used to be 4.1/4.7, and is now 3.7/4.5
don't do this, unless you have the copper mod.
But I overclocked from 400/600 to 525/900, and the difference in performance was huge!
3DMark06 before: 1,700'ish
after: 2,077 !
RTHDRIBL 640 x 480 window before: ~ 50 fps
after: ~ 70 fps
----> around 40% increase!
W.E.I.: Aero/Gaming Graphics before: 4.1 / 4.7
after: 4.8 / 5.2
The good news is that my load temp has only increased a few degrees:
before: 72C
after: 75C
I recently bought a laptop and before it ships I have been looking around at how the 8400m GS performs. The video card is labeled at 128 mb but many people have been posting on forums about how they're cards are telling them they have 256mb instead of 128.
More commonly, Youtube videos are all titled 8400m GS *256*. Is the 128mb version just really uncommon? Or is it really 256 mb. I also stumbled upon something called Turbo Cache (not sure if that's the right name for it) that has the GPU use some of my systems RAM...Isn't that what integrated chipsets do?
Anyway here's my system:
XPS M1530 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T8100 (2.1GHz/800Mhz FSB, 3MB Cache)
3 GB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz (2 DIMMs)
320 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM)
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
If anyone knows anything about Turbo Cache or how this card performs with World of Warcraft.
using xps m1330. the laptopvideo2go forum page on that release didn't state...
View 10 Replies View RelatedI own a vostro1510 with a 8400m gs. i am a casual gamer and during gaming gpu goes upto 85c. i am worried about my gpu as we all know about the failure rate of 8400 and 8600. my warranty is going to expire on sep 15 so do you guys recommend me going for extended warranty? i find it a bit costly.
remember my laptop was purchased on sep 15 2008 and my mobo was replaced few months back(not due to failing gpu). someone also told me that the replacement gpu's are not defective is it so?
When did your 8400M GS Fail, if at all?
View 10 Replies View RelatedAnyone knows a good drivers for the 8400M GS card tweaked for good performance?
I play Company of Heroes a lot and would like to optimize my card to gain better performance.
How crappy is the NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8400M GS really? I am using a 7800gtx in my inspron 9300. Just ordered a 1330--- is the 8400 superior to the 7800gtx?
on a related note, is there anyway to upgrade the NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8400M GS to a different video card? Is any other nvidia card compatible?
buying second hand, 2yr warranty left
however person said he had graphics problems and his computer was serviced (motherboard replaced).
I dont want to have it die on me later on, price is good compared to other systems where I live (same price as a new vostro 1310).
bottom line, whats the probability this would happen again ? any chance of a perm fix ?
well basically my question is in the title...but i was wonder is there anyway i can lower the watt draw (11 watts stock) while im on battery power.
I know powermizer does this but can i lower it even more?
Looking to get my sister a m1330 for a graduation gift and right now if you spend $1300 plus on a M1330 u get 25 percent off.
So i'm looking for ways to get the laptop to add up to $1300 and i can either upgrade the processor to
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9300 (2.5GHz/800Mhz FSB/6MB cache)
from
So I have a broken Nvidia Geforce 8400m GS GPU on my Vostro 1400 out-of-warranty (even with Nvidia extension) laptop and Dell wants $240 to repair it.
That money could probably go to a new laptop, but I was still wondering if there was a way I could go for a do-it-yourself repair. How would I go about replacing the GPU? Is there a guide for this somewhere I could look for?
I'm guessing I will need to order a replacement motherboard from Dell to do this, but I'd rather attempt repairing the laptop on my own rather than send it to Dell's out-of-warranty repair depot. I've taken apart PCs before, but have never taken apart a laptop.
Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS - Copper Mod - Step by Step Guide
Dell XPS M1330 Notebook with nVidia GeForce 8400M GS GPU has an inadequate Thermal Cooling Assembly. It uses a Thermal Cooling Pad between the GPU and the GPU Thermal Cooling Assembly instead of a direct contact between the two with a Thermal Compound. This leads to overheating the GPU and damaging it along with other components. The solution is to replace the existing Thermal Cooling Pad with a Copper Sheet and a Thermal Compound.
Note: This Copper Mod does not solve problems arising from a weak die/packaging material set in certain versions of GPU. Their failure appears related to the combination of the interaction between the chip material set and the system design. The combination of limited thermal management and frequent power cycling is particularly challenging for the GPU. Dell is offering a 12 Month Limited Warranty Enhancement specific to this issue. However, this Copper Mod might help delay the failure by improving the thermal management.
Materials:
01. Copper Sheet. Recommended: Gauge 16 & Grade C106 - 14x14x1.5mm.
02. Thermal Compound. Recommended: Arctic Silver 5.
03. Thermal Compound Cleaner (Isopropyl Alcohol or Acetone).
04. Cotton Swabs.
05. Paper Napkins.
Tools:
01. Phillips Screwdriver - #0.
02. Utility Knife.
03. Thermal Compound Spreader.
Drivers & Utilities: (for Microsoft Windows Vista 32 Bit)
01. Dell XPS M1330 A13 - 1.02MB. (BIOS Firmware). Recommended.
02. Dell nVidia GeForce 8400M GS 176.44 A10 - 52.70MB. (Video Driver). Recommended.
03. HWMonitor 1.11 - 397.00KB. (Monitor GPU, CPU, Chipset and HDD Temperatures).
04. GPU-Z 0.2.8 - 410.00KB. (Monitor GPU Clocks).
05. I8kfanGUI 3.1 - 1.61MB. (Monitor Fan Status and Speed).
06. RivaTuner 2.11 - 2.30MB. (Monitor GPU Status on OSD).
07. 3DMark06 Basic Edition 1.1.0 - 413.00MB. (Benchmark GPU).
08. Intel Thermal Analysis Tool 2.05 - 3.31MB. (Benchmark CPU).
Procedures:
Before You Begin!
01. Disassemble the Module Cover by loosening the four Screws.
| 1 - M2.5x5mm Screw (1) | 2 - Captive Screws (3) | 3 - Module Cover (1) | Image: Dell Service Manual |......................
I contacted the Dell support team to see whether my m1330 is affected by the bad batch of Nvidia Graphic card and I got this respond
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On your concern about the Nvidia Graphics, I should say that your system is not affected by it, however I am a Hardware expert with the XPS Team and would recommend to diagnose the Hardware to identify any problems.
To extensively diagnose the 'Hardware', your active participation is requested. Please follow all these steps mentioned below as they are inter related:
1. Disconnect all the devices which are connected to the system, like:internet cable,usb key,etc.
2. Power off the laptop. Disconnect the power cable from the laptop.
3. Close the system, turn it upside down, slide the battery latch and remove the battery.
4. Keep the battery out and put the system back in front of you..................
Tried a G.Skill 4GB module in the M1330 this evening.
It is not recognized in slot A or B. This was tested with BIOS A08 and A12. This unit was purchased in March 2008.
It's a no go for this model it seems.
Have you ever noticed that HD 3450 on Studio 1537 works much better than 8600M GT DDR2 on Vostro 1500?
It plays AVCHD Blu-Ray m2ts smoother and performs Vista Aero great even in power saver mode w/ battery..
Which is the better graphics card the 8600m gt on the m1530 or the new ati 4670 on the xps 16?
View 10 Replies View Relatedcannot find one for the life of me, on dells webpage they only have a 8400 or 8400 gs?
yea thats nice, anyone doing any overclocking on vista? what driver are you using if so?
New One (Released October 9)
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v176.09, A03
Previous (18/8/2008)
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v175.97, A02
Now > Why is the new one having this description >
Quote:
nVidia(R) Extreme Graphics Controller
while the previous release said it was a driver? I mean whats the actual difference? And any idea why they haven't released this new graphics controller for the other models with the same graphics card? This one is apparently for the "Inspiron 1318"...
It's been a long time since i've posted on this forum, but i was wondering wether or not a 6800 go is better than the 8600m gt? The reason for this is that my 9300 seems to be on its last legs (after three keyboard replacements, two motherboard replacements, a 3d card replacement, and various other little problems) and i was wondering if they replace my 9300 with a 1720, would i be satisfied? (im already worried about it not having a DVI port as i regularly connect my 9300 to my 20' monitor).
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