Dell :: P9500 Vs T9400 (e6400 Vs M2400)
Jan 26, 2009
I'm considering to buy an e6400 or M2400.
I use my laptop about 10-14 hours daily (job and home/university), so it’s very important for me that the laptop will be cool and quiet. The tasks which I do are: programming (C++, PHP...) with Eclipse and other IDEs, UML programs, databases, surfing a lot... I don't use CAD or similar, only a bit a photoshop.
I got the same price for e6400 with P9500 and for m2400 with T9400.
I know that one difference between P9500 and T9400 is the power consumption. There are more differences? What is better for my tasks? T9400 are more powerful?
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Sep 19, 2008
Image you're using your notebook for things like 3D CAD, photo and video editing and of course for travelling. For my purpose I think the M2400 with its 14,1" monitor should fit perfectly. The perfect combination between mobility and performance.
Now I have to decide between 2 processors. As you know the P8600 isn't available and even Dell couldn't tell me if it will be available in the next weeks.
As you know the M2400 can only be ordered with the following processors:P8600 (2,4 GHz, 25W, 3MB Cache)T9400 (2,53 GHz, 35W, 6MB Cache)
So which one would you choose and why? The price difference is about 100$ (71,4 EUR).
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Mar 11, 2010
is this possible the chipset and FSB are corect for the proc to work on the board anyone tried this or know if it will work or not ???
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Jan 11, 2009
Can't believe I scanned through the whole owners threads for the M4400, E6500, M2400, E6400. Can't believe I still have questions, but they are listed below:
Background: I'm a pro photographer and am looking for a road machine that has a decent, accurate display. Won't be used at home, won't be used for games. I have looked closely at the MBP (older matte and new glossy) and could live with the screens but the smug gets to be excessive and it would be demeaning to live in bootcamp or lose the touchpad by loading just windows (no interest in switching to OS X). I have also looked at the sony sr & z 13" and could live with either if I gave up and went size over power and durability.
I have not seen any of the LCD choices for the Latitude or Precision in person unfortunately and have no place to view them, which leads me to this post. What got me here is that I have read that the macbook pro shares LCD panels with the WXGA+ LED screen of the M4400 and E6500. Now there are other choices namely the WUXGAs and possibly problems with the WXGA+ displays on both the 14 and 15 inch dells, or maybe with specific samsung or LG models of either though it isn't really clear which one is superior.
Question 1) Truelife = Glossy? AG= anti glare? Ultrasharp = high res?
2) Is the main functional difference between the latitude and precision the video card choices and possibly a display option for the 15"?
3): I would prefer to go with the smaller 14 inch model but looking at the comments on this forum and the review on notebookcheck.net left me thinking the 14 inch LED screen was not up to the level of the 15inch model. Am I wrong on this?
4) The M4400 thread refers to several tables with Contrast, gamut and brightness data for the 4400 --- does anyone have a link to this data for the M2400, E6400 and/or E6500?
My other questions refer to the M4400 and E6500:
5)Is the Canadian website's ultrasharp UWXGA CCFL display the same as the 2 CCFL display mentioned in the M4400 thread? Anyone know if the RGB LED display is available in Canada?
6) Is the UXWGA CCFL monitor the same on the E6500 as the M4400? Is the UXWGA RGB LED monitor available on the E6500?
7) From the specs banded about is the following true:
WUXGA CCFL -- 75% of ARGB gamut, 350 cd brightness 1:400 contrast MATTE finish
WUXGA RGL LED -- 100% of ARGB gamut 300 CD 1:500 contrast GLOSSY finish
WXGA+ LED 45% of ARGB (or similar) 300CD 1:500 contrast MATTE Finish
8) Is the WXGA+ LED display really equivalent to the MBP lcd quality? Are there still problems?
9) How tiny is the text, icons, etc on the WUXGA screen? At home I have a 22" CRT running at nearly the same resolution and I am worried that I'll have to use the "special" features of windows to read.
10) There was brief allusion to problems profiling the RGB LED screen on the M4400 thread -- I've got the older xrite DTP 94 colorimeter-- will there be problems?
11) For those with the LED RGB WUXGA display --> are there banding problems from the wider gamut and (presumably) still 6-bit display?
12) Finally given all the above I didn't seem to find a consensus on the best fit for a monitor for my purposes. The choices being A) E6400/M2400 with WXGA+ LED, B) E6500/M4400 with WXGA+ LED, C) E6500/M4400 with WUXGA CCFL, and finally D) M4400(E6500?) with WUXGA RGB LED.
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Apr 2, 2009
I have come to grips with the fact that my E6400 (see specs below) has idle temps of around 42 for both CPUs and around 62 for the GPU (while docked).
While these are not dangerous, and while the slow fan speed is very quiet and therefore doesn't bother me, I refuse to accept defeat so easily.
So, I am thinking of replacing the thermal paste and possibly the thermal pad on my E6400. There is at least one person here at the Latitude/Precision sub-forum who did that, with amazing results
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Jan 8, 2009
why the P9500 processor is no longer available on the VGN-Z590 CTO version of the Vaio Z Series? The first reply from Sony customer "service" was "sometimes things are out of stock." The second reply was "after further investigation, it will only be offered on the Z540 from now on." Can anyone confirm and/or explain why that might be? Were there problems?
As a followup, anyone have a reference for much difference the 6MB L2 cache in the P9500 makes vs. 3MB in the P8600?
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May 16, 2009
if anyone has dismantled their 6930?
I received my 6930 today and have a p9500 I want to replace the t5800 with, however Im stuck half way through dismantling it!
I've removed all the screws from the underside as it looks as if the heatpipe is attached somewhere under it, however it feels as if the underside casing is still attached somehow (possibly hidden screws?)
I tried popping the four tabs which hold the keyboard in on the topside, incase theres something under there, however they refuse to move also!
More than likely it's something small I've missed, or it could be I'm not applying enough force? Don't want to break something accidently though on a two hour old lappie
I'd be fairly confident pulling apart laptops- but this has me stumped..
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Apr 19, 2009
It is possible to change the CPU on my laptop Z series from P9500 to T9900 3.0Ghz ?
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Mar 21, 2009
After doing some research and reading,I'm looking to purchase a Latitude E6400 from the outlet.
I can't decide which processor to get. I found two configurations with the same price but different processors.
One has the T9400 and the other has the P8600. Should I go with the T9400 since it has a 6mb cache? If you had to chose , what would you guys consider the best option?
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May 1, 2009
Is there a big difference between the 2 not in games and in games(RTS games)?
T9400 - 2.53ghz, 6mb cache, 1066mhz bus..
P8600- 2.4ghz, 3mb cache, 1066ghz bus..
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Nov 10, 2009
I have upgraded my M4400 with a QX9300 processor...but all I get is BSOD on boot.
I can run the BIOS memory test without problems, and I can boot in safe mode.
If I attempt a normal boot, I get a Blue Screen Of Death complaining that the BIOS is not fully ACPI compliant
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Oct 31, 2008
I chose the Intel WiFi 5300 over the WiFi 5100 as I understand it is the better card. However, a few hours later I received an email telling me my order was cancelled because the 5300 was 'unavailable'.
I contacted Dell chat this morning, and was told that the part was available but was incompatible with my processor choice. Apparently the 5300 is a Centrino 2 part, and is only compatible with a Centrino 2 processor. I thought the T9400 was a Centrino 2 processor?
If it's true that the parts are incompatible should I go with the T9400/WiFi 5100 or the P8400/WiFi 5300? The Dell chat guy told me that these were the only compatible configurations. If I try to order T9400/5300 again will my order be cancelled again - anyone else tried this?
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Jan 6, 2009
P8600 (2,4 GHz, 25W, 3MB Cache)
T9400 (2,53 GHz, 35W, 6MB Cache)
Sony FW 290 CTO:
1. Which should be a better CPU for like normal use (ex. Photoshop, Movie/editing, Gaming, etc..)?
2. How much a different on battery life.. ?
3. Or should wait for a new model FW 300 series.. to come out.. ?
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Dec 8, 2008
3 questions about the Dell Precision M2400...
1. Popularity
I wonder why there are so few threads about the M2400 on notebookreview.com! There are way more threads about the similar 14" Latitude D6400 or the 15" Precision M440! Why is this?
2. Quality
If you have a M2400, are you satisfied with it? Do you have problems? What would you improve?
3. Price
I'm from Canada and it seems there are less coupons for Dell Canada than for Dell US. The default M2240 is currently listed as (1670$ - 251$) = 1419$CAN, which is 1,133.40$US.
What would you do to get a better price?
Wait for a chistmas discount?
Call a rep and try to get a better price (how much can I save doing this?).
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Nov 6, 2008
I plan to buy a Laptop within some days. It comes down to M2400 or M4400, as the T500 has no LED screen here in Europe and T400 no digital screen connection. I'm product designer but will attend business school next year, so I will do a lot of office stuff and traveling. The only difference in these systems is the GPU, I wonder how do they compare? Rhino should work fine on both I guess? Anyone able to compare those systems?
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Nov 16, 2009
I've upgraded my precision m2400 about 2 weeks ago and noticed that the battery life has gone down significantly even when adjusting the power options / screen lighting / keyboard backlight and wifi.
Wasn't windows 7 suppose to improve battery life on laptops? The battery life has gone down by about an hour with variation on different power option settings. Anyone know how to fix this or anyone else having this problem? I'm using it with a 9cell battery.
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Jan 20, 2010
CPU-Z is showing that my T9400 occasionally changes to either 10 or 10.5 multiplier. SiS Sandra Lite also lists it as a 2.79GHz processor.
I thought it was locked down at 9.5. Guessing it's due to it being an ES... Is there a way to control it?
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Jan 9, 2009
I just received a WD 1TB hard drive and a Icy Dock enclosure. I close my M2400, plug the HD, reboot, and I don't see the HD.
I don't think I can see the hard drive in the bios either, but I don't know the bios a lot, maybe I'm not looking at the correct place.
My bios has "IRRT" for the "Sata Operation" section, I run Windows XP that has been installed with the sata drivers slipped on the installation disk.
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Aug 24, 2009
does anybody know some news abou the new models of precision line from dell? i checked that the last two series were announced after one year and the 4400 was releases in august 2008...
i'd like to buy a m4400 but i don't if it worth is to wait...
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May 11, 2009
Why is a lot of people on ebay selling the m2400 with a quadro fx 380
Dell dont have the 380 on their homepage and i cant find it on nvidias homepage eiter
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Nov 15, 2008
it is only 51mb.
Specviewperf is probably a better openGL benchmark,particularly for the common openGL software used,but is a rather unreasonable download size compared to this,which does a short openGL test as well as cpu rendering tests.
So if some owners of any of the Precisions can post a score here,it will probably be helpful to prospective owners as to what sort of comparative performance between models and specs there is.
here is mine,specs ...
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Jan 14, 2009
I bought a M2400 some days ago. I like it for most of the features: eSata, nice docking station, nice LED screen, backlite keyboard, etc.
But I can't live with the noisy fan that is on way too often when the laptop is docked.
I mean, I'm not using some CPU intentive programs here, I'm browsing the web and listening to music and the fan turns on!
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Apr 12, 2009
I have 2 indetical laptops dell 9400, 2 years old and well getting a bit 'done' used every day for at least 8H in weeksn around 12 so under a lot of stress.
I bought the Toshiba X300 myself
and for my girlfriend the Acer Aspire 8930G-584G32Bn
Now I'm looking to upgrade both.
X300 currently holds a T9400, would like to upgrade it to the QX9300. Shouldn't be a problem I think, saw the X300 fitted with this processor (but with 2X 9800GTS instead of 1x 9800 GTX.
But for the acer I'm absolutly not sure what I can do with that one....
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Nov 16, 2008
has anyone manage to get a 5530 WWAN + GPS card working in a m2400?
I can get the mobile broadband working but i cant get it to turn on the GPS, tried most drivers.... and Controlpoint...
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Apr 7, 2009
someone said it was better to use 64 bit vs 32 bit for vista and was wondering if this is real? and wat are the benefits of using 64 bit over 32 bit and vise versa? except to utilize all of my 4 gigs of ram.
also the dell rep said their driver support for the 64 bit was not as good as the 32 bit and was wondering if this is true?
and will some games not work on 64 bit or does that not matter?
oh and someone said when you reformat you should reformat in ahci mode, and was wondering how you do that
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Jun 8, 2009
I have a choice between 2 specific E6400's. What I really want is a backlit keyboard and the integrated graphics (battery life is important to me).
The problem is, from the two models available to me, one doesn't have the backlit, while the other has the NVIDIA.
The one with the NVIDIA is $100 more expensive. So the question is, is it possible to either upgrade manually to the backlit keyboard, or downgrade manually to the Intell 4500? How difficult and expensive would either option be?
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Aug 12, 2009
I installed XP and everything seems ok but the computer doesnt want to suspend. When I click the power button (which is setup for suspend) or try to suspend any other way (like shutting the lid) the system will shut down but will come back online after about a minute or so. It doesnt want to go to sleep! Bad Boy. I have noticed that if I take off the power cord, it will go into suspend and stay there properly. I have tried two different power adapters, so I dont think its adapter-related. Its really annoying to have to totally shut down every time. I've tried disabling settings and hardware in the bios to no avail. I have DCP installed.I want to upgrade my WiFi link card to a wireless-n version. I guess this is the wifi link 5300 card. I actually bought one but its full height (533AN_MMW), so now I have to go an get the half height version (model 5333AN_HMW, right?!). One issue though, I dont know if my laptop has a third antenna cord in there for the third leg of the antennas. Can I add one? I am using a wireless N Dlink router.
Will this one work in my e6400?[url] I'm a little nervous about it because of the "G2" at the end of the model #, and the website says its for the centrino and I have a latitude.
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May 16, 2009
I bought a new Dell E6400 laptop with Intel P8400 CPU. I tried installed Windows Vista, but the CPU experience index was only 3.0. I tried RMClock utility and it shows only 0.85 Ghz. I think I installed all needed drivers (Chipset driver, System Software etc.) and I set High Performance mode. But still 0.85 GHz. Any ideas how to force it to 2.26Ghz?
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Sep 19, 2009
I went through around 100 pages of the long thread on e6400 but could not find much real information on the e6400. Can someone who knows post the following:
1. Good and Bad LCD manufacturers for the WXGA+ LED display.
2. Keyboard - specifically compared to a thinkpad keyboards.
3. Any Heat related issues the laptop has.
4. Other trouble spots to watch out for.
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Oct 18, 2008
I'm pretty new to Dell notebook world. I was always told that Dell has a stinky customer service and their image wasn't that good around spot but care sharing whats good and bad about dell in general?
1- In the LCD option, it says touchscreen. Does that mean I can somewhat use this laptop like a tablet? ( Without the ability to twist the screen of course..)
2-Never knew whtas the different between 1dimms and 2dimms in RAM....
3-Compare Geforce 9400gs with the Mobile Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD With PC-Card. Plus, what do they mean by "PC-Card" or "EXpress card" ?
4-Does Dell notebook actually give us 64bits windows or they're all 32bits unless they mention the option of 64bits?
5-Whats the difference between the normal e6400 model and the ATG model? Simply more durability +weight?
6- Whats an encrypted HDD or a ruggedized HDD?
7- I'll be using the notebook for design purpose. Such as photoshop, flash, illustrator or such. I'll be using 2-3 program at once with several picture/projet +internet + music. If my specs are 2.26ghz or 2.4ghz + 4gb ram + intel HD4500HD, will this notebook handle it?.............................
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