Dell :: 1720 Vs M1710 Future
Aug 2, 2007
I'm curious about a few things. What would you rather have for now? at simliar specs? IE 256 Mb cards of each.
Currently th M1710 is the only laptop at 17" that has DVI support. One thing though, when the XPS is replaced by the new model, it will be based on the current 1720 right? So in other words the new XPS will not have DVI? Are there any threads or information speculating on the new XPS?
Oh and one other thing. Whats a good multiplayer game? I like call of duty 2 but have been out of the game scene for a while.
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Apr 16, 2009
I am planning on buying a laptop for college in late june/ early july. The notebook I've had my eye on is the dell studio xps 16 (specs below):
Intel T9550 (2.6 Ghz, 6 MB Cache)
4 GB 1066MHz RAM
500 GB (7,200 RM) SATA - or - 256GB SSD
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670 (512MB)
FullHD RGBLED LCD 1920x1080 Screen
BluRay Drive
Intel 5300 WLAN Wireless-N (3x3) Mini Card
Additional 9-Cell Battery
ExpressCard Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Sound Card
Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth Module (2.1+EDR)
Now, will there be any developments or changes during the time between now and when I plan to buy the laptop? also, any thoughts on 500GB 7,200 RM vs. 256 GB SSD... I'll have the money for the SSD, but I'm not sure if the cost/benefit of getting it is worth it.
But mainly, I'd like to know some insight about the future of the system (ie. price-drops, upgraded parts, et cetera)
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Sep 8, 2009
I'm in the market for a new laptop; either the Studio 15 or the Studio XPS16. I'm still chuggin along on my Dell Inspiron 600m from 2003! Anyway,
it came with a copy of Windows XP, so I could do a clean OS install anytime I wanted.
Does Dell still do this? I'm waiting for Win7 to come out on Oct 22, and I basically want to have a clean install of the retail OS on my new computer.
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Mar 4, 2009
This is a newb question: My 1640 now has a 7200RPM hard disk. Will I be able to replace/upgrade it in the future with SSD?
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Jul 19, 2009
I want to purchase the dell studio 14z but am looking to get the best price possible.
Do you think if I wait dell would most likely have a back to school sale for the 14z as it is marketed towards students?
Right now I can get 170 dollars off (E-value and EPP). Should I wait or bite the bullet?
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Aug 29, 2007
Just came across this tidbit of information...
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Do you think that the new m1730s already have that inside?
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Mar 24, 2009
Onlive Gaming Service GDC 09
read that thread in the gaming forums
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The service works with pretty much any Windows or Mac machine as a small browser plug-in. Optionally, you will also be able to purchase a small device, called the OnLive MicroConsole, that you can hook directly into your TV via HDMI, though if your computer supports video output to your TV, you can just do it that way instead. Of course, you can also just play on your computer's display if you don't want to pipe it out to your living room set.
loots of potential in this. I might just need to upgrade to 17" MBP for this in the future.
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Feb 17, 2010
Just wondering if there's any idea how long the bubbly Espresso imprint design will continue? Still deciding whether to pull the trigger on a laptop now though I don't like the finish (DV5t imprint was the best!) or wait for the next refresh, whenever that may be....
Am I the only one that thinks it's a little too cute for a laptop? It's not like a drive a VW bug w/the daisy hubcaps or anything
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Feb 12, 2010
Is there any word on possibly upgrading the Vaio F series GPU to something better than the 330M in the future? It is the only thing stopping me from getting a Vaio F , since it won't be too great for gaming.
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Feb 4, 2009
SZ 750 NC.
I wanna create some partition on it ... how can i do that as when i wanna reinstall the recovery on it in the future , the created drives I've made don't change in default factory form ? can I use this software : paragon hard disk manager 2008, if i use this software , will the partition be remained on my laptop when i use recovery DVD ?
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Oct 26, 2009
I had the HDX16 on my shortlist for a new laptop but in all of the recent announcements by HP on refreshed Pavilions and new Envy laptops, the HDX has been conspicuous by it's absence. No information at all and I can still only see it available in Win Vista format from retailers, not Win 7. what the future holds for HDX? It looks like a good choice for a general multimedia laptop. Any refresh or updates planned? Or are HP likely to discontinue it?
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Jun 29, 2009
If I buy a 2.8ghz macbookpro, will i be able to upgrade it in the future to 3.06ghz or higher from Apple or another place?
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May 19, 2009
I own an HDX16T. Day 1, I burnt RECOVERY DISKS and then I proceeded with a clean install with a new vista install.
I decided to try to restore the notebook with those recovery disks. Guess what? It appears that you can no longer use those disks without having the original HP RECOVERY PARTITION?
I just simply can't use it anymore. I can't restore my notebook to factory condition anymore. The only option I have is to Click "FINISH" and reboot.
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Apr 8, 2010
I'm thinking about snagging a copy of iWork 2009 because, well, I don't like Office 2008 even though I paid a marginal price for the suite as available from my medical school. I realize that Office 2011 is coming within the next seven months or so, but until then...
I haven't been able to find a thing out about iWork 2010, so I'm assuming I'd just spring for the '09 version. In experimenting with the trial, I've noticed that even a simple import of a text-only .docx is formatted differently; it seems like the line spacing is different, because in the imported .pages that Pages makes from the source .docx I made, there are two additional lines of text on the first page. Why is this?
My big thing is that all created works must be easily taken to a different platform; I like OS X, but I have no allegiance to it or to Apple, and if a solid competitor to the 15" MBP comes along, I would seriously consider switching back to Windows 7. I rarely need to share .doc/.docx (or any other Office suite) files with others for their own editing, so PDF exports would suffice most of the time.
I know that .pages files are essentially archives containing XML data and a .pdf of the document, but I'd hate to have to hand-convert a bunch of XMLs if I did switch back. And sadly, Pages doesn't natively save to a .doc/.docx -- it only exports (though I did read about a hack to change that some time ago). Formatting mismatches for something as minor as line spacing are just concerning.
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Feb 21, 2008
I was going to be assembling an m1710 this weekend....
I called Dell Spare Parts a few days ago, and placed an order for the following;
HG345 Refurb bottom plastics, m1710
FF084 Refurb palmrest assy, m1710
J8841 Refurb speakers, LED, m1710
CF426 Refurb hinge cover, m1710
I've been watching the order on Dell's site all week, as it was scheduled to ship (on or before today) (2/21/08), and I opted for Next Day shipping.
When I placed the order, the woman I spoke with asked for my Service Tag number. I, um... don't HAVE one... I didn't say this, I simply said I don't have that information at the moment. She asked how I got the part numbers, and I told her from their own Spare Parts page.
Well....the order got cancelled today. Saw it online while at work, just before I left for the day. Another order number with the identical items was created, with a scheduled ship date of 3/3/08. WHAT?
The woman just called....she states they cannot process my order without a service tag number. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
I told her I don't have a tag number....she asked if I was building one. "Yes." To which I hear...
"Oh....well, I don't think our supplier will allow that without a service tag number, because we reserve those parts for people who bought m1710's."
I said "That's amazing...because I know a number of people who have done the same thing I'm trying to do, and had no problems getting these parts."
"Well, that's because they have m1710's"
*mad enought to scream at this point* "Um, no...where do you think I got the idea from?? I'm certainly not the first person to have this idea."
how I can get them to sell me some refurbished plastics? What's the secret password?
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Oct 25, 2008
Does anybody know if Acer build an new Ferrari NB in the future?
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Aug 12, 2007
Im still torn between getting a M90 or Inspiron 1720. The M90 would have the Quadro FX1500M and the 1720 the Geforce 8600GT. I like the fact that the 8600 is DX10 capable, but I've heard that the FX1500 performs a little better. My 1720 would be new, with 1.8 core 2 duo, 1GB ram and 120GB hard drive. Would this setup outperform an M90 with 1.6 core2duo, 1gb ram and 80gb harddrive. This computer would be for gaming and internet. What should I do?
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Jan 11, 2009
I have recently downloaded Windows 7 beta from MS and have my OS DVD's in the mail from Dell... now here is my problem.
I have the 3 partitions that came with my 1720 from the factory. OS C:, DATA D:, RECOVERY E: I am not interested in messing that up as my vista ultimate runs great. I am VERY interested in test driving Win7 and doing a little bug hunting in my spare time. Now what I would like to do I am not sure is possible.
I currently have Vista 32 installed and would like to dual boot Windows7 64 on the DATA drive. I've heard about removing the primary drive and installing on whatever is left then using the BIOS to determine which drive to boot from. Would this work on my Inspiron? It seems like an Ideal solution. I can make a nice partition on the D using partition magic or something and format that to whatever Win7 would like then use, i think it's f12?, to determine which drive to boot from when i turn my computer on. I know laptops open a whole new world of quirks which is why I ask this question of you guys to see where my logic is flawed and if there is a way to get around that. I should have my Vista 32 and 64 disks by wednesday so hopefully a workable solution is found by then!
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Feb 11, 2009
My laptop doesnt over heat or anything but I have had this dell inspiron 1720 for over a year now and I really would like to clean out the fans/vents.
I read people's posts and they make it sound so easy to do. Well i flipped my laptop over and i look near the vents. There are no screws near the vent.
I also checked my manual and it does not show you how to get to the fan without taking the complete laptop apart. Is the 1720 really this hard to get to the fan or am i overlooking something?
I really don't feel like taking the screen off and then the keyboard just to get the fan.
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Apr 9, 2009
what is the best processor not named Intel Core 2 Extreme Mobile X9000 2.8GHz 6MB and is it overclockable in the 1720?
Also are any of the t9550, t9600, or t9800 compatible with the 1720?
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Apr 21, 2009
I have done a search on this so forgive me if its been addressed already. I found no answers.
I have seen taht a number of Inspiron 1720s have the 8600m GT card in them with 512 mb of memory, while others such as mine have the same card, but with 256mb memory on them.
I'm getting ready to start doing some photoshop work as well as some CAD work. I'm going to start my engineering degree as soon as I finish my current degree. Would this increase in memory help out in what I will be doing?
Will it also help in gaming? I pretty much use this laptop for everything and am trying to learn what I can about it so I fully understand it's capabilities and such.
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Mar 30, 2009
I am stuck looking at a black screen. Also, when closing the lid I am unable to open the lid and restore my previous session.
Although I am not sure if this is directly related but it seems to only deter me from restoring the session if the computer has been plugged in, otherwise the laptop comes back exactly as it was.
I have tried reinstalling the video driver twice, both times doing a complete clear and removing all registries tied to them
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Aug 15, 2007
getting the gpu overclocked, its a 8600m gt, yea i know i know, im guessing it has windows vista 32bit.
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Aug 6, 2007
I've decided to forget the cheap laptop and am looking to buy an m90 or 1720. Which will game better M90 with 256mb quadro or 1720 with 256mb 8600gt?
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Dec 30, 2009
i have a dell 1720 with a t2390 cpu running at 1.86 ghz with 2gb of ddr2 667 mhz ram and was wondering what is the fastest cpu i can run in this system without modification, just want a quick upgrade where i can drop in the cpu without changing heat sink etc? would i have to change the ram aswell?
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Dec 12, 2007
I have a Dell i9400 and would like to understand that... also, please tell me if someone would recommend an upgrade from i9400 to 1720.
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Jul 13, 2008
My wife and I just recently purchased a inspirion 1720 with a 8600mGT to plan and play some games together. I have a 8600 GT in my desktop so I assumed I knew what range the new laptop would play in (FPS wise), even with the ddr2 and new die.
We recieved it about 2 weeks ago, and first thing I noticed was very sluggish FPS on all the games I installed (20% of what my desktop 8600 GT can produce). So I go on the normal witch hunt, trying different drivers for the GPU and make sure all chipsets and bios updates are in...all to no avail.
So I dig deeper..I downloading 3dmark, GPU-Z, and CPU-Z. First thing I notice is my 3dmarks are 1.5k when other 1720s are getting 3-4k on their tests (even with somewhat lower stats )
So then I run GPU-Z and CPU-Z and the only difference I could find from other 1720s is that the 8600M GT I had was running at PCI-E X1 not the maximum the card (and motherboard) can handle which is X16.
*the imageshack pic is from another 1720 who ran GPU-Z
So I looked around to see the difference from 1x PCI-E to X16 (my thinking was zero difference just like AGP 4x to 8X)...and apparently the difference is HUGE.
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*Only difference from those 2 cards is the speed at which the bus is running for PCI-E
I also concluded that those benchmarks fall around what Im getting compared to other 1720 users with the exact same GPU.
So Ive contacted Dell and had to convince him that my card was NOT suppose to run at that X1 bus speed. After and hour and a half, he did not know how to fix that(Bios has no option) and he scheduled a call back within 2 days from another tech to try and get this resolved.
I do have the option to just return the laptop(within a month). But hopefully if by sending it back and having them replace it after troubleshooting with them, I wont get another lemon..
so lesson of the story, if your getting less performance then what your expecting..run GPU-Z and make sure your card is running properly.
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Feb 9, 2010
I was bored tonight so I ran some benchmarks on my 1720, Specs in Sig
Only change was the GPU was overclocked.
1st Pic is 3DMark @ stock clocks.--------3449
2nd Pic is 3DMark Overclocked-----------4366 Old 4259, 4271, 4280
3rd Pic is Vantage @ stock clocks--------P1115
4th Pic is Vantage Overclocked-----------P1457 Old P1410
I didnt get time to finish a Vantage run on my last set oc clocks since it needed tweaking due to display driver crashes. GPU temps never reached higher the 67*C when overclocked
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Nov 4, 2009
I was configuring a Vostro 1720 and the only version of Windows 7 Professional available is 32bit. If I were to order more than 3GB of ram .....
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Mar 5, 2009
Whenever I close the computer it will crash. Upon re-opening it I am greeted with the BIOS loading screen and the the message telling me my computer was not properly shut down.
I'm not really sure why this happens. If anyone has had this problem and knows how to fix it ....
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