Dell :: 8600M GT Performing Poorly
May 29, 2009
I recently had Vista installed and attempted to play some games I bought that I heard ran well on the m1530. Unfortunately when trying them out for myself I found that they did not run very well at all.
The most recent game I've tested this with is The Sims 3. I've read on my different forums that people are running this game easily maxed out with the 8600M GT, 2.0+GHz Processor,
and a few gigs of RAM. Unfortunately when I ran the game I found it to be quite choppy at even Medium settings.
After reading around, I thought that maybe a reformat and a new OS might help. I took off Vista last night and threw on Windows 7. Even without any programs installed, The Sims 3 still preforms pretty badly.
I have my laptop set to "High Performance" mode. Here are my specs:
2.4GHz Processor
3gigs of RAM
32-bit Windows 7
8600M GT Video Card (I recently installed the 185.85 Windows 7 beta Drivers from NVIDIA)
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Jul 5, 2009
I really want to see if I can exercise the "lemon law" on my computer or just to see if the XPS M1530 is just a poorly built machine.
This will be the 5th time I have to get Dell to come over to fix a problem. 2 times for the hinge snapping, one time I dropped it off of my bed, which is a foot high, and the hinges snapped off again.
Then another time because the guy who came to fix my screen broke the motherboard. Also, now my computer doesn't charge when plugged in. All it says is "plugged in, but not charging"...
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Dec 23, 2008
I've been running my m1530 for about six months now, and frankly I am just not impressed with performance. The only current game it seems to be able to run at a decent rate is Civilization 4, or the orange box (and I realize the half life 2 engine is not a "current" engine, at all). When it comes to Warhammer Online, Company of Heroes, Age of Conan, or World in conflict it really can't handle any of them, and it doesn't matter what the settings are, almost all of these games are just as sluggish at medium-high settings as they are at low settings with every last feature shut off. The only setting that seems to have any apparently effect on performance in the games is the resolution. The screen I got with it is a 1680x1050 screen, and when playing at the reduce 1440x900 and 1280x800 it does play better (still sluggish, ) and it looks like absolute a$$!
The important specs on it are as follows
T8300 CPU
8600gt GPU
4gb RAM
1680x1050 Screen
I've tried installing Windows XP to see if performance would get any better, but after battling with sound drivers for a day, gave up on that fight. I've tried beta drivers, I've tried different drivers from laptopvideo2go.com with modified .inf files. I'm running out of areas to look, is the GPU just a pos, should I sent it in for replacement?
I can understand Warhammer and World in Conflict not running at their best, their both resource hogs of games, and on a mobile chipset it could get a bit sluggish. But Company of Heroes, a game released....two years ago, should at least run slug free at low to medium settings. The biggest performance gain I got from Company of Heroes settings was changing the Shader Quality from Direct3D 10 to High, I assume that means it would be rendering in directx 9 instead of 10, that increased my framerate by about 125%..............
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Feb 14, 2010
A few weeks ago my battery started to function poorly...checked out the diagnostics, showed it was in "poor" condition. I planned on going to Apple store soon but now my power adapter has also seemed to have gone bad. I plug it in, but no power goes to the Macbook Pro ( I can start it on limited battery and see no power being received) and the little green light isn't going on the plug into the computer itself. The power brick or whatever you want to call it gets very warm but I think that could be a malfunction? Before I call Apple do you think I just need a new battery and AC adapter?
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Sep 3, 2007
I installed a Go 7800 GTX in my I9300 laptop and OC'd it to 450/1250.
I tried the 3 xp drivers on tweaksmobile and experienced slow loading of npcs, textures in wow, speckles (artifacts), and sound crackles in wow, even lag whens soloing in nobodies land.
My x300 used to perform better.
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Mar 20, 2013
I dont know wat happened to my Dell XPS L502x. Since a month, It is getting struck when i m working with my laptop. Start Up and Shutting Down times are okay, But after starting up, if i open any window, it is getting struuck. Some says "There is a problem with ur hard disk" and some says processor is problem....
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May 24, 2010
I tried performing a system recovery on my laptop. After it was finished, I received an error stating "The computer restarted unexpectedly or encountered an unexpected error.
Windows installation cannot proceed.To install windows, click ok to restart the computer, and then restart the installation." Then, after restarting, the computer begins to boot, but brings me to a screen "/noexecute=optin" "edit boot options for microsoft windows vista. Path: windowssystem32winload.exe". Alt+F10 then brings me to a Change boot device screen, giving me the option between my hard drive and CD/DVD ROM drive. My laptop is not under warranty any more, and I do not have recovery discs, nor can I afford them. What can I do to either boot my laptop, or properly recover it?
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Jul 16, 2014
This is not "battery pluged-in not charging" issue. That issue is software related and can be easily changed the option whether Life or Health of battery you concerned by LEM. I'm one of Y580 owner that facing that issue that the laptop cannot detect the AC adaptor anymore after performing the Battery Guage Reset".
For example: URL...I was tring to search for the solution, but as you know there is nothing without send it back to service center.The tempolary solution I was using is,
1. Remove the battery (if laptop is powering on, then shutdown it first).
2. Remove the AC adaptor from wall ac receptacle.
3. Once the laptop is completely powered down, plug AC adaptor to your laptop and wall AC receptacle.
4. After a few second, insert battery back into the Laptop. And then, the battery will be chaged as usaul.
5. You need to repeat step 1-4 above every time you unpluged the AC adaptor.
By the way, I have been living with that issue for almost 2 years, until it was already out of waranty in June 2014. So rightnow, I can do whatever I want without worrying the waranty. I was trying to teardown my Y580 to find the dead components. I gusted that the issue may be from charging circuit. Afetr opened the chassis, I found that the Y580 uses BQ24737 from TI to be the charging controller.
I cannot found the BQ24737's datasheet, but I was using BQ24735 instead, since, they have the same pinout with difference in optional functions. I found it. The dead one is the input MOSFET. It's shorted between Drain and Source!. That lets the voltage from AC adapter directly connected to Battery. And then, the AC adapter will be tripped with over current protection and the voltage is held to near zero. That's why we cannot plug the ac adapter with battery inserted for this case.
So far, after I replaced it with the similar rating MOSFET from old laptop, it works!. So, I can plug to charge my laptop as it should be without problem.the actual circuit shound not be exactly the same with datasheet. For the Y580, the input MOSFET (Q1 in datasheet and PQ302 in Y580) is P-Channel (AO4423), and it has the external circuitry to dive that MOSFET instead of U1. send it to service center to replace the new motherboard. If not, and you have electronic/soldring skill, you can do it by your self.
Tools needed,
1. Soldering iron (it will be easier for removing part from PCB, if you have 2 of them).
2. Equivalent electrical rating MOSFET.
3. Multimeter.
The different model, different location. Anyway, you can check whether it is the right MOSFET that need to be replace by,
1. Disconnect battrey from labtop
2. Using multumeter (ohm function) to measure the resistance between pin Drain and Source of the MOSFETs. The dead one must has very low D to S resistance (near 0Ohm) for both direction (D(+)<-->S(-) and D(-)<-->S(+)).
3. Search for the dead MOSFET's datasheet and then find/cross the new one from local supplier.
4. Just replace with the good one.
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Jul 30, 2009
Have you ever noticed that HD 3450 on Studio 1537 works much better than 8600M GT DDR2 on Vostro 1500?
It plays AVCHD Blu-Ray m2ts smoother and performs Vista Aero great even in power saver mode w/ battery..
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Jul 4, 2009
Which is the better graphics card the 8600m gt on the m1530 or the new ati 4670 on the xps 16?
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Aug 16, 2007
cannot find one for the life of me, on dells webpage they only have a 8400 or 8400 gs?
yea thats nice, anyone doing any overclocking on vista? what driver are you using if so?
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Nov 25, 2008
Was using Google Earth Pro and the screen blanked out for a second before being restored. The error was as below
"Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered."
The references to this error seem to infer that the GPU is close to death, and the error will get progressively worse. Anyone else had this error and survived? I've had the laptop less than 4 weeks.
I'm really not keen on getting the laptop replaced and possibly ending up with a poorer display i.e. more screen bleed.
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Oct 10, 2008
New One (Released October 9)
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v176.09, A03
Previous (18/8/2008)
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v175.97, A02
Now > Why is the new one having this description >
Quote:
nVidia(R) Extreme Graphics Controller
while the previous release said it was a driver? I mean whats the actual difference? And any idea why they haven't released this new graphics controller for the other models with the same graphics card? This one is apparently for the "Inspiron 1318"...
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Jul 15, 2007
It's been a long time since i've posted on this forum, but i was wondering wether or not a 6800 go is better than the 8600m gt? The reason for this is that my 9300 seems to be on its last legs (after three keyboard replacements, two motherboard replacements, a 3d card replacement, and various other little problems) and i was wondering if they replace my 9300 with a 1720, would i be satisfied? (im already worried about it not having a DVI port as i regularly connect my 9300 to my 20' monitor).
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Oct 19, 2007
How do these two cards compare?
I assume the 8600m is better but how much better?
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Jul 13, 2008
My wife and I just recently purchased a inspirion 1720 with a 8600mGT to plan and play some games together. I have a 8600 GT in my desktop so I assumed I knew what range the new laptop would play in (FPS wise), even with the ddr2 and new die.
We recieved it about 2 weeks ago, and first thing I noticed was very sluggish FPS on all the games I installed (20% of what my desktop 8600 GT can produce). So I go on the normal witch hunt, trying different drivers for the GPU and make sure all chipsets and bios updates are in...all to no avail.
So I dig deeper..I downloading 3dmark, GPU-Z, and CPU-Z. First thing I notice is my 3dmarks are 1.5k when other 1720s are getting 3-4k on their tests (even with somewhat lower stats )
So then I run GPU-Z and CPU-Z and the only difference I could find from other 1720s is that the 8600M GT I had was running at PCI-E X1 not the maximum the card (and motherboard) can handle which is X16.
*the imageshack pic is from another 1720 who ran GPU-Z
So I looked around to see the difference from 1x PCI-E to X16 (my thinking was zero difference just like AGP 4x to 8X)...and apparently the difference is HUGE.
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*Only difference from those 2 cards is the speed at which the bus is running for PCI-E
I also concluded that those benchmarks fall around what Im getting compared to other 1720 users with the exact same GPU.
So Ive contacted Dell and had to convince him that my card was NOT suppose to run at that X1 bus speed. After and hour and a half, he did not know how to fix that(Bios has no option) and he scheduled a call back within 2 days from another tech to try and get this resolved.
I do have the option to just return the laptop(within a month). But hopefully if by sending it back and having them replace it after troubleshooting with them, I wont get another lemon..
so lesson of the story, if your getting less performance then what your expecting..run GPU-Z and make sure your card is running properly.
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Jan 2, 2009
I just installed the 185.20 beta driver (which supports the 8600m gt ddr3 without the need for a custom inf), I didnt have any crashing or glitching, and I will let the pic do the talking
this is the first stable 18X.XX driver I tried, and its weird that the 8600m gt doesn't need a modded inf lol
download the driver from LV2Go but dont download any modded infs because you dont need them
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Mar 21, 2009
im bothered with GPU issue. my 1 yr warranty will expire in few days. the quote of 200$ on one yr warranty extension is EVIL.
so my question is whether i can get 6 month more life on gpu. from yesteryear august i quit playing games. always use in powermizer mode with no intense work.dont knoe how much dell will charge for motherboard replacement
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Oct 21, 2009
When i changed to 185.85 i noticed that the temperature of my video card lowered. Now im moving to 186.81. Do you think its a good decision, or know a better driver?
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Jun 5, 2009
dell is no longer offering the Nvidia 8600m gt, they only offering only the 8400 in this system,
is this just coincidence? they gonna finaly take out the m1530 and m1330 systems? and if we, happy customers of the m1530, get in some trouble with this graphics card, they probably gonna replace with a Studio XPS 16? of similar specs? cause they wont have 8600m for replacement
i dont know about u but i dont like te studio xps 16, first bigger, heavier, and not as stylish as the .
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Jan 2, 2009
my m1530's 8600m gt is now idling between 69-73 degrees celsius, as opposed to the 58-65 it did when it was new. also, in-game temps are now well into the 90's. will be calling dell support this afternoon to have them set up a tech to come out and replace it.
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May 8, 2009
I'm trying to update my 8600M GT drivers on my Dell Vostro 1500. I downloaded the following file dated 23/1/2009 from the Dell drivers website after entering my service tag:
R190066.exe
I tried to install but an error came up that no drivers matching the hardware could be found (or something like it)...
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Sep 6, 2007
about a modified bios to increase the voltage on the 8600m gt?
I remember there was a 7800/7900 modded bios I used in my inspiron 9400 to bump up the voltage for better overclockability and was wondering if anyone was working on one for the 8600m gt?
I've been able to get the card up to 635/535, but can't seem to go any higher. Temps max at about 55C, so I'm thinking there may be more headroom.
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Dec 1, 2007
Is the 8600M GT good enough for games such as Battlefield 2? I read a 4,000 plus benchmark somehwere...but others were mid 3000s on 3Dmark06...That's not much, but I think it's faster than my X800 XT is in the XPs desktop which plays BF2 fine.
I'm going to be going with a new gaming desktop within a year or so, but I still want the laptop to be able to handle BF2!
Anyone own the 1530 yet? Found good reviews?
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Jul 14, 2007
I can't seem to get settings to stay in Windows XP with my new 1520's 8600m GT. I go to apply settings (in either rivatuner or ntune) and it just goes back to default settings.
In Vista, I can overclock fine.
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Jun 5, 2009
Currently my M1530 has the nvidia 8400M GS chip in it. I'm thinking about swapping the motherboard out for one with an 8600M chip on it.
My question is, will it make much of a difference? How much greater is the 8600M w/ 256mb versus the 8400M w/ 128mb that is currently in my machine? Look forward to your responses.
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Jul 16, 2007
Is the memory in the 8600M GT in the Dell Insprion 1520 GDDR3 or DDR2?
I hear this would make a pretty big performance difference.
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Aug 17, 2007
on 575/475 i scored 7100, on 550/450 i just played bf2142 on high settings and it ran at 60fps or so, give or take, i just installed windows xp on my 1720, it came with vista all i had to do was switch something with the hd in the bios, im using ntune to overclock. my system is a t5450 1.66,1g 667mhz ram,120gb 5400rpm hd, nvidia 8600m gt, using driver 165.01.
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Mar 24, 2009
My new laptop has the Nvidia GeForce GO 8600M GT 256MB graphics card in it according to the Dell listing.
I can find mention of Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT 256MB without the word GO in the title all over the net and it doesn't look to bad.
So I'm wondering, is the word GO in the title of my card suggesting that perhaps I have a down scaled version / cheaper version or are they the same thing and same performance?
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Sep 22, 2009
I apologize in advance if there is already a thread dedicated to this issue as I made sure to search around to see whether someone had already started one on this issue.
My question goes out to other Dell 1500 Vostro owners who ended up with a defective card and underwent the painstaking process of replacing their 8600M GT cards:
Have the replacement cards been defective as the stock ones? Are the replacement 8600M GT cards better built to withstand heating? Has Nvidia fixed the silicone issues?
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