Dell :: FX2500M Vs 7950GTX
Nov 4, 2007
Im thinking about purchasing a FX2500M from ebay, but my question is, will it be able to perform the same as a 7950GTX if I OC it?
Because I heard that the 7950GTX is just a OC'd 7900GTX / 2500M.
And I believe the difference between 7900GTX and 2500M is none, except the FX2500M is optimized for OpenGL stuff, which actually makes it better than a 7900GTX? Am I correct?
Also, does the FX2500M have a higher OC limit than the 7950GTX, since the 7950GTX is already OC'd?
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Jan 8, 2008
I am thinking about to get a new FX2500m card.
Is it a good idea to play Crysis with it?
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May 12, 2008
I've got a e1705 with a FX 2500M in it . 2G of ram, and a T2400 intel processor.
I got a copy of Neverwinter Nights 2 for free, so I went to play it. I was cruising along making my character, when my laptop shut off! I restarted, and it said it stopped because of temperature. So, I started up core temp so I could watch the temp, and restarted the game. Once I got into the game, and it's all that was running, neither of my cores went above 110 degrees F. Then, it shut down again. I was not running all the 'options' to make it pretty, but I was running it at 1920x1200. I dropped it down some so I could monitor the temps (same ratio, just a little smaller).
I updated my drivers to the newest MovileForce Drivers, and want to retest, but figured I'd also watch my card temps, to see if that was causing the shutdown?
I installed fangui, and no gpu temp is listed. I also was going to try nvtemplogger, but it said something like my card isn't capable of temperature monitoring?
So, how do I monitor it? Does my card have the ability to output it's temp to one of the tools?
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Feb 23, 2009
I have problem with my video card in inspiron 9400.It's overheated.I can use just in a lowest resolution.there is a lot of strange symbols and squares on the screen.I have few questions.
Do you now how to fix it?Is it gpu to change?I have some skills to change some elements on the bord but i dont't now what to change.I dont need so good video card,
so maybe anybody have some cheap video card to sell?Or do you now any service where i can fix it ( ireland, uk).I have not so much money to buy new one because they are very expensive.So please if anybody can answer my question.
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Mar 6, 2008
After trying many drivers and having many questions left unanswered, I decided I wanted to try this route to see how it goes.
I was told when I bought my FX2500m that I could flash it with the 7900GTX BIOS since they are both the same card basically.
I'm having problems where I can play some games no problem, and others lock-up after only seconds of play, sifting through 5 drivers (NBF and Xtreme-G) I decided either I have a faulty card or maybe the FX2500m doesn't have a shader or whatever that some of the games I'm testing it with need.
I only have a couple more days to report this card as a DoA so I'm wanting to test all the possibilities before (possibly) shipping it back.
Long story short, can someone give me a link to a 7900GTX BIOS? And give me a quick run-down on how to go about actually doing the flash and backing up my own?
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Mar 5, 2008
what is the best (best performance/most stable) driver out there for a FX2500m? Haven't heard much mention of the XTreme-G drivers on these forums, so I was just curious.
I found the thread here...
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and the website here...
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and the quote here...
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Originally Posted by TurbodTalon
MY OPINION ON DRIVERS: I have tried a dozen different drivers from stock to Laptopvideo2go to Geforce Tony's Extreme Drivers. All have given me roughly the same performance--and that's if they even worked. In other words, no one driver blew the others out of the water. What am I saying? Find a driver you like, and stick with it. There is no such thing as a 'Super Driver' at this point.
But my thead still stands, between those tested, what do you think?
I'll edit this first post with updates so people won't have to sift through this thread to see all my information..............
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Feb 24, 2008
I installed the FX2500M upgrade on Monday, and last night I did a reapplication of the AS5 on the cpu, and when I put everything back in and booted back up....NOTHING!!! The screen was very very dim, although the image was visible, which made me first think it was a power issue with the lcd display. Plugged in an external monitor, picture comes out fine, but i8kfangui can't read the GPU's temp anymore?
So I chat with the infamous people over at Dell, and to my surprise, within 10 minutes they promise a replacement display. I think my problems are solved.
But just for kicks, I throw in my old ATI Radeon X1400 in and lo and behold....the big DELL BIOS logo pops up, bright and beautiful! Everything is back to normal, except now I don't have the wonderful graphics performance that my FX2500M was giving me.
Now I'm absolutely lost...how could the FX2500M be producing a dim image on the laptop display if it outputs perfectly to an external monitor? I find no correlation between the back light of the lcd display and the output of the GPU, especially if another gpu works fine.
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Oct 9, 2007
I am replacing my Dell Inspiron 9400 current video card which is a Dell nVidia 7900GS 256MB(dual heat pipes) with a Dell FX2500M 512MB video card.I want to know if it will work ok??I know I have to get a PA-13 for a XPS M1710 power supply to replace the PA-10 supply and I already modded my housing corner by removing the extra metal on the left side to fit the second heat pipe.I have the current bios of A09 in my Inspiron 9400.Besides getting the PA-13 power supply,9 cell battery(already got a 9Cell battery),and the latest Dell video drivers,am I missing anything?
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Oct 22, 2007
I installed a FX2500M 512mb card in my Dell Inspiron 9400.I played Battlefield 2142 using high settings on all the options including 2X AA,1600x1200 resolution etc and after about 3-4 hrs straight of non stop gaming,I noticed my screen graphics getting "shaky"during gameplay.Is this normal because of the max settings I was using?
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Sep 4, 2008
Just installed the card instead of the broken one (fx2500 as well) that was installed on my laptop for about one year. After reassembling the computer and turning it on nothing is happen on the screen although the HD and DVD driver are making the noises and leds are on as well. Reinstalling the bad card returns me to the previous condition when i see all screen pixeled with gibrish and finally crashing the system immediately after windows is finishing to load.
On the new card (purchased from eBay as used item in good condition for 260$) i noticed Rev A02 instead of A00 on the broken card. Do you think that the problem is revision or the card is just piece of crap? Any idea to get it back to Rev A00?
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Aug 16, 2007
I just got a 7950GTX for my Dell E1705 from Ebay, my questions is, is there any way I can check to make sure this is indeed 7950GTX not some fake 7900GTX with bios mod. I just ran a quick 3DMark 05 with 90w power supply and got like 7250 score... I am waiting for that 130W power supply,
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May 29, 2008
I just bought a 7950GTX for my e1705/9400 and installed fine. The board seems to work smooth in both XP and Vista. But since I want to work with quad-buffer-stereo modes (in XP), I want to turn this board to a quadro one. As far as I read, 7950GTX is the same board with FX3500M.
This transformation job could be done either with two ways. Software... using Rivatuner bla bla. And by flashing the board to another using nvflash and -6 -5 -4 parms. For my own reasons, I didnt want to do it with any kind of software and I tried the hard way....
Result??? Nothing!!! After I flashed my 7950GTX to a FX3500M, on the first reboot everything became black! The board seems to be not recognized by my machine or was not working So, I had to re-flash it back again to it's original state.
Does anybody from here has already done this before? Because from what I saw personally, must be one of the following cases:
1) the 7950GTX cannot run with an FX3500M bios! So the boards are NOT exactly the same.
2) the bios I used for quadro (FX3500M G71 board p469h7g v05.71.22.45.05) is not compatible with my board (7950GTX G71 board p468h6 v05.71.22.46.06) and I may need another
3) my Inspiron e1705/9400 with the latest bios A09 (but also with the older A08) cannot recognize and boot properly with any FX3500M board.
In case that someone has a FX3500M already installed and working on a 1705/9400, please let me know about board's bios version and I may need a copy of his rom.
Also, If somebody knows if this could be done please let me know too.
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Aug 29, 2007
I'm trying to figure out what is going on with my 7950GTX. Any drivers I use in XP have problems. ALL the drivers I have used (93.77, 94.22, 158.18, 158.45, 163.44) have had my LCD go to Black then come back to the normal image, almost as if the LCD lost power and was turned back on.
However, When I put Vista on to see if that would fix the problem, I was plagued with nvlddmkm.sys has stopped responding and has recovered errors, with the same LCD problem as in XP.
Also, while I'm in XP, I MUST disable NvMcTray form starting up or I will blue screen after I login and see the nVidia icon in my system tray.
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Apr 22, 2008
in the m1720 config page for my country, dell is offering the following graphics cards:
128MB NVIDIAŽ GeForceŽ 8400M GS [add $160]
256MB NVIDIAŽ GeForceŽ 8600M GT [add $250]
are these better than the 7950GTX?
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Oct 11, 2007
As more and more 7950 users were complaining of Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) installs on drivers I began to look into the issue personally. I was able to track down its cause to the ever popular coolbits. Apparently, for us 7950GTX users, this registry entry is not so cool. I will give three strategies for repairing this problem. Note that both pre-install and post-install refer to the driver installation.
Caution: All three of these methods will prevent you from being able to use the Nvidia Control Panel to overclock.
This is not a big issue since the control panel interface for coolbits isn't all that great anyway. Just use ATITool, NTune, or RivaTuner to overclock your card if you wish.
Pre-Install BSOD FIX
INF Modification
If you are using a LV2G driver then this is the quickest method.
Open up the driver INF and remove the coolbits line.
It most likely looks like this:
Code:
HKLM,"SOFTWARENVIDIA CorporationGlobalNVTweak", CoolBits, %REG_DWORD%, 0xffffffff
So just search for "cool" within the INF and delete the whole line.
Proceed with the installation.
You should be good to go.
Post-Install BSOD FIX
You may be forced to use one of these methods if your driver set does not allow access to the INF.
Registry Overwriting
I will post an explanation later but all you need to do is download this file
Most likely you will have to install it in safe mode (F5 on startup)
Once you install it, reboot.
Your problems should cease.
Registry Deletion
Start -> Run -> Regedit
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWARENVIDIA CorporationGlobalNVTweak and remove the coolbits entry
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Dec 2, 2007
Is this switch worth it? Does the 7950 have better performance?
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Oct 5, 2007
Just got a 7950GTX as a replacement for my 7900GS and after searching for the right drivers, finally manged to install it. To my dismay, it is performing less than a stock 7900GS! On my 7900GS I used to get 6300 and with 7950GTX I am getting 6200 WTF!
Currently using forceware 94.22. I am hoping its not a hardware problem. Can anyone suggest a stable and good performing driver for the 7950GTX?
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Jan 11, 2008
my 7900GTX died and dell replaced it with a 7950GTX which is
so whats a good recommended driver for it? right now i have 6.14.11
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Feb 27, 2008
Not sure if I should be worried. I upgraded my XPS 1710 from a 7900GS to 7950GTX in Dec. Running UT3 and Stalker I have been hitting 86 degrees. All seems to be working well, just not sure if I should be concerned...I have necer maxed over 80 yet.
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Oct 4, 2009
After nearly 3 years my beloved XPS has hit the wall, the 7950GTX and GPU fan are fried; graphical glitches and artifacting galore,
called Dell support to get a replacement (thank god for my 4 year warranty and NBDOS/Complete Care coverage)
Should I push to get the whole Mobo and cpu replaced too?
The system runs super slow and throttles after about 10 mins aswell as taking nearly 3 mins to boot up (only since the GPU failed)
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Nov 14, 2007
how to upgrade a 1710 (with a 7900gs) to a 7950gtx please?
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Jul 25, 2007
I just got a memory parity error. I have run memtest, prime95 and gpu tests and all were great. I did some reading and it seems it can be gpu driver related. I am currently using the latest dell driver 94.22 for the 7950gtx
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Sep 11, 2007
Is the 7950GTX with the T7600 as good as the E1705's gonna get with it's current motherboard?
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Nov 17, 2007
Just wondering if anyone can provide me with a link to download either one of these BIOS. I'm looking to flash my Quadro 1500 to either one of these to see which one works best for gaming. However I have no source for download. If anyone can provide me with a stable/stock clocked BIOS for either of these I would really appreciate this.
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Nov 14, 2007
I can't get ati tool to run in vista64, so would really help me if i knew where the realistic ceiling lies
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Sep 22, 2007
Any driver I install other than the Dell driver for my 7950GTX gives me a blue screen of death. I use the Driver Cleaner/CCleaner approach. I've even reformatted to see if it was some operating system anomaly. I know there's a DLL you can delete to make it work, but I'm not willing to give up the control panel.
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Mar 15, 2010
iv'e owned a M1710 for over 3 years and never had any issue at all with it. Sell it to a friend about 2 weeks ago with a fresh install of Win7 64bit installed.
Last night he calls me telling me it blue screened coming out of Stanby mode and when he reboots there are all kinds of graphic glitches/errors all over the screen during system post and It will only boot into safe mode.
I checked it out today and the graphic card is indeed fried, failed the Video Memory test of dell's diag CD.
Could Stanby mode keep an amount of current going through the video card without fans running and burn the memory? or is this just a big coincidence?
In my 3 years of owning the laptop I never used Standby or Hibernate, it always booted up pretty quick I never saw the point...
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Nov 29, 2007
I just upgraded to a 7950GTX,and I now experience a wireless issue that wasn't there before. I have the Dell 1390 minicard. And I have the PA-13 adpater.
Before the upgrade, while sitting next to my wireless router, I would naturally get 5 bars out of 5, now I only get 3 bars, and Dell's wireless utility says my connection quality is poor.
Before the upgrade, I could move all around the house and never get less than 3 bars, now I can't go more than 12 feet from the router before losing the connection.
I thought I could have done something wrong when I opened my lappy, but I just looked at the service manual and the wireless minicard sits below the motherboard, so it's not that.
why I get less performance from my wireless network now that I've upgraded to a 7950GTX ?
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Sep 24, 2007
I was playing around with mine to get it to 645/700, but it gives way too many artifacts.
I was just wondering what everyone elase is runnign here with the same card 521 MB 7950gtx and laptop. And how in the hell do you keep it cool?
Also I am using 97.92 driver, since I cant get any 100XX drivers to recognize my 22" external LCD, but now I see in the Nvidia control panel that my monitor is not showing up. I mean it trasfers picture right, but its not shown in the options...
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Nov 15, 2007
Dell :: According to Nvidia webiste 7900GTX & 7950GTX are NOT the same with different clocks ...
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