Dell :: Flashing A FX2500m To 7900GTX
Mar 6, 2008
After trying many drivers and having many questions left unanswered, I decided I wanted to try this route to see how it goes.
I was told when I bought my FX2500m that I could flash it with the 7900GTX BIOS since they are both the same card basically.
I'm having problems where I can play some games no problem, and others lock-up after only seconds of play, sifting through 5 drivers (NBF and Xtreme-G) I decided either I have a faulty card or maybe the FX2500m doesn't have a shader or whatever that some of the games I'm testing it with need.
I only have a couple more days to report this card as a DoA so I'm wanting to test all the possibilities before (possibly) shipping it back.
Long story short, can someone give me a link to a 7900GTX BIOS? And give me a quick run-down on how to go about actually doing the flash and backing up my own?
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Mar 5, 2008
what is the best (best performance/most stable) driver out there for a FX2500m? Haven't heard much mention of the XTreme-G drivers on these forums, so I was just curious.
I found the thread here...
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and the website here...
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and the quote here...
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Originally Posted by TurbodTalon
MY OPINION ON DRIVERS: I have tried a dozen different drivers from stock to Laptopvideo2go to Geforce Tony's Extreme Drivers. All have given me roughly the same performance--and that's if they even worked. In other words, no one driver blew the others out of the water. What am I saying? Find a driver you like, and stick with it. There is no such thing as a 'Super Driver' at this point.
But my thead still stands, between those tested, what do you think?
I'll edit this first post with updates so people won't have to sift through this thread to see all my information..............
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Jan 8, 2008
I am thinking about to get a new FX2500m card.
Is it a good idea to play Crysis with it?
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Nov 4, 2007
Im thinking about purchasing a FX2500M from ebay, but my question is, will it be able to perform the same as a 7950GTX if I OC it?
Because I heard that the 7950GTX is just a OC'd 7900GTX / 2500M.
And I believe the difference between 7900GTX and 2500M is none, except the FX2500M is optimized for OpenGL stuff, which actually makes it better than a 7900GTX? Am I correct?
Also, does the FX2500M have a higher OC limit than the 7950GTX, since the 7950GTX is already OC'd?
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May 12, 2008
I've got a e1705 with a FX 2500M in it . 2G of ram, and a T2400 intel processor.
I got a copy of Neverwinter Nights 2 for free, so I went to play it. I was cruising along making my character, when my laptop shut off! I restarted, and it said it stopped because of temperature. So, I started up core temp so I could watch the temp, and restarted the game. Once I got into the game, and it's all that was running, neither of my cores went above 110 degrees F. Then, it shut down again. I was not running all the 'options' to make it pretty, but I was running it at 1920x1200. I dropped it down some so I could monitor the temps (same ratio, just a little smaller).
I updated my drivers to the newest MovileForce Drivers, and want to retest, but figured I'd also watch my card temps, to see if that was causing the shutdown?
I installed fangui, and no gpu temp is listed. I also was going to try nvtemplogger, but it said something like my card isn't capable of temperature monitoring?
So, how do I monitor it? Does my card have the ability to output it's temp to one of the tools?
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Feb 23, 2009
I have problem with my video card in inspiron 9400.It's overheated.I can use just in a lowest resolution.there is a lot of strange symbols and squares on the screen.I have few questions.
Do you now how to fix it?Is it gpu to change?I have some skills to change some elements on the bord but i dont't now what to change.I dont need so good video card,
so maybe anybody have some cheap video card to sell?Or do you now any service where i can fix it ( ireland, uk).I have not so much money to buy new one because they are very expensive.So please if anybody can answer my question.
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Feb 24, 2008
I installed the FX2500M upgrade on Monday, and last night I did a reapplication of the AS5 on the cpu, and when I put everything back in and booted back up....NOTHING!!! The screen was very very dim, although the image was visible, which made me first think it was a power issue with the lcd display. Plugged in an external monitor, picture comes out fine, but i8kfangui can't read the GPU's temp anymore?
So I chat with the infamous people over at Dell, and to my surprise, within 10 minutes they promise a replacement display. I think my problems are solved.
But just for kicks, I throw in my old ATI Radeon X1400 in and lo and behold....the big DELL BIOS logo pops up, bright and beautiful! Everything is back to normal, except now I don't have the wonderful graphics performance that my FX2500M was giving me.
Now I'm absolutely lost...how could the FX2500M be producing a dim image on the laptop display if it outputs perfectly to an external monitor? I find no correlation between the back light of the lcd display and the output of the GPU, especially if another gpu works fine.
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Dec 7, 2009
I recently bought a 7900gtx and a new power brick when my 7900gs crapped out in my e1705. My question:
Can I use the same version of the nvflash iso disc that i previously burned to overclock my new 7900gtx? If so do i use the clocks with the "V" in the code
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Oct 9, 2007
I am replacing my Dell Inspiron 9400 current video card which is a Dell nVidia 7900GS 256MB(dual heat pipes) with a Dell FX2500M 512MB video card.I want to know if it will work ok??I know I have to get a PA-13 for a XPS M1710 power supply to replace the PA-10 supply and I already modded my housing corner by removing the extra metal on the left side to fit the second heat pipe.I have the current bios of A09 in my Inspiron 9400.Besides getting the PA-13 power supply,9 cell battery(already got a 9Cell battery),and the latest Dell video drivers,am I missing anything?
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Oct 22, 2007
I installed a FX2500M 512mb card in my Dell Inspiron 9400.I played Battlefield 2142 using high settings on all the options including 2X AA,1600x1200 resolution etc and after about 3-4 hrs straight of non stop gaming,I noticed my screen graphics getting "shaky"during gameplay.Is this normal because of the max settings I was using?
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Sep 4, 2008
Just installed the card instead of the broken one (fx2500 as well) that was installed on my laptop for about one year. After reassembling the computer and turning it on nothing is happen on the screen although the HD and DVD driver are making the noises and leds are on as well. Reinstalling the bad card returns me to the previous condition when i see all screen pixeled with gibrish and finally crashing the system immediately after windows is finishing to load.
On the new card (purchased from eBay as used item in good condition for 260$) i noticed Rev A02 instead of A00 on the broken card. Do you think that the problem is revision or the card is just piece of crap? Any idea to get it back to Rev A00?
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Nov 12, 2007
Will changing the voltage on the 7900gtx to 1.32v make any difference?
I noticed a few people here and there have done this.
what would be the benefit?
would it be more stable? or be able to clock higher?
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Sep 11, 2007
but on the card is said revision A01. In the BIOS, the Video BIOS version is 005.071.022.028.002.000. I wasn't aware they're made 2 revisions of the 7900GTX, is this card still safe to flash with the modified BIOS here?
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Sep 20, 2007
Well I bought a FX-2500, actually 2, the first had to go back - Dud.
I understand that the FX-2500 and 7900GTX are the same cards, with a different BIOS.
So is there any benfits to flashing the FX-2500 with the 7900GTX BIOS, I am a Gamer, so again my Understanding is the 7900GTX is more orientated for Gaming.
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Oct 1, 2007
Just recently upgraded my E1705 with a FX-2500
Flashed the unlocked BIOS with the 1.24 v GPU 500 -1200 clocks
3DMark06 came back @ 5180
Just wondering how this matches up with others here with a simular setup.
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Nov 6, 2007
Having installed a 7900gtx in my Inspiron 9400, I let Windows Vista download a Microsoft compatibility driver for the card as a temporary measure until I got round to trying out other drivers. I've since tried Nvidia's driver from their website which didn't recognise the hardware; the Dell driver (from the M170 driver section) and the Xtreme-G 163.69 and 162.62 drivers, all of which slowed down the graphics performance of the Aero effects and some caused flickering.
I did not use any special software to remove the drivers - just basic install/uninstall. I've rolled back to the Microsoft driver which works fine within Windows and runs games fine at low settings.
I now have an additional problem in that Corel Paintshop won't start due to a "Driver components mismatch."
What should I do? Has anyone else experienced performance loss with "better" drivers? or could that be down to the presence of the Microsoft driver?
How do I get this thing working with the wonderful performance I should have?
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Jan 19, 2008
Im writing this so that others who are curious about these types of cards can decide if the upgrade is right for them. This installation required me opening the laptop and breaking off a small piece of plastic, which was very easy. I also updated the system BIOS to A09 and acquired the 130 W PSU as this baby draws about 45W of power itself compared to the 20 the GS requires.
When I originally bought the GS I knew it was a good card. It still is. I got this card because I felt the upgrade would be more cost effective then rebuilding my old desktop PC. All I can say is that where the GTX shines is where the GS shows its weak spots. The GTX can really handle higher resolutions really well as well as keep the frame rate fairly smooth.
For my temps, since I AS5'd it, runs at about 45 idle and 75 peak which is fairly good considering all thats going on.
The biggest jump was in STALKER which quite honestly the GS really had trouble with. Im happy to report the GTX can max out this engine fairly well with little to no choppiness.
Well shoot, what are we waiting for lets see some pics and results.
7900GS specs
7900GTX specs
Bioshock- All Mazed out- no Vsync- 1920x1200 20-30FPS
Gears of War- All Maxed out- No Vsync- 20-30FPS
Stalker- All Maxed out- 1600x1200- Smooth 30-45FPS
In conclusion, the GTX stomps all over the GS in higher resolutions and with the extra clock and memory speed it can easily outperform the GS in almost every aspect. It should be noted these are stock speeds and OC'ing would result in hopefully even better performance.
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Jan 24, 2008
After reading a ton about upgrading my e1705 to a 7900GTX (actually, an FX2500M), I went ahead and bought one on eBay. To my horror, the card doesn't fit.
I snapped off the little plastic parts that keep the left heatpipe from fitting; that isn't the problem. The problem is that Dell seems to have modified the motherboard to prevent such installations (my e1705 is a fairly recent one). At the top portion of the video card, there's a connector that matches a connector on the motherboard underneath. That motherboard connector is too high, which prevents the video card from inserting into its PCI Express socket. In addition, the videocard post on the upper right (where the screw would insert into the thread) is missing. That part isn't so important, but that damn connector definitely is.
1) Has anyone seen this before, on a newer model e1705?
2) The connector appears to be soldered on, so I'm not sure I could remove it even if I wanted to. Does anyone know if I *can* remove it, and if so, how? What is this connector used for? I assume it's some sort of SLI connector, since it has a matching one on the videocard itself?
Pictures will be provided upon request. I'm pretty bummed, as it appears I'm screwed. I'm also steamed at Dell, which has evidently modified their motherboards to prevent cheapskate upgrading.
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Feb 18, 2010
So i can OC the video card slightly.
Can anyone plz help me?
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Nov 15, 2007
Dell :: According to Nvidia webiste 7900GTX & 7950GTX are NOT the same with different clocks ...
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Jul 4, 2008
I've been trying to find these cards for a while.. I've been searching for "dell FX3500", "FX3500", "FX3500M", same for the others, etc.
I can't find these cards for my 9400.. There's a lot of 7900Gs, but that's the card I already have!
Are there specific codes for those parts? I know the 7900GS is DG008, but I don't know of any for the cards I want.
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Jan 25, 2008
Even with Crysis winning the latest "Hog of the Year" award, it does have a decent GPU benchmark tool.
Please post any benches you've accomplished using the Crysis GPU Benchmark. I will post additional FX2500 OC numbers as time permits.
I also have a FX3500 inbound, so I'll update my post with that data as well once installed.
FX2500 [169.04 NBF MobileForce Drivers, All Medium Settings, No AA]
1024x768, Stock Clocks (500/600)
Min/Avg/Max
17.86/31.79/46.45
1024x768, OC 550/650
18.14/33.71/50.28
1440x900, Stock Clocks
11.51/21.41/31.68
1440x900, 550/650
12.55/23.46/34.22
1920x1200, Stock Clocks
8.48/14.37/20.93
1920x1200, 550/650
7.91/15.27/22.14
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May 16, 2010
Hey guys I have had my SXPS 1645 for almost 8 months now and I recently have had issues with it. Whenever I turn it on, it seems to boot fine (maybe a few more clicks then usual) and the boot up screen is tinted blue and the screen flashes. The OS seems to work fine as it logs in and everything, yet the screen tint and flashing remains. I assume its a problem with the RGBLED display, but I am not sure how exactly I can remedy this problem.
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Mar 12, 2010
I was flashing my bios of my dell xps studio 16 (i don't know which 17xx it is... it has i5 and 4gb of ram. some ati vidfeo card with 1gb of vram, 15.6 LCD)
And then it froze for about an hour. So I unplugged power, took out battery and tried to boot it up. To my dismay, nothing showed up on the screen.
I have so much stuff on my HD that I need.
What are some ways to fix my laptop? Do I have to send it to dell? Will I lose all my data?
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Feb 10, 2009
Last week I received my brand new Dell Studio XPS 1340. After some days I got the "Power Adapter cannot be determined .....". So I called Dell Tech Support. He told me to flash the BIOS from A02 to A03. So I did. Under the flashing I got a bluescreen. So the information on the BIOS was gone. So yesterday a Dell Techincan came to my house and replaced the motherboard with a new one. I noticed that this motherboard has BIOS version A01 (the oldest one). I also noticed that the processor fans is always on 4000 RPM. It never slows down to 2000 RPM, even if the temperature is on 40 degree celcius.
So I though this had to be something with the old BIOS version. So I called Dell, and I tried to flash from A01 to A02. But the same bluescreen came, this time, lucky for me, before the flashing! So nothing get destroyed!
Anyway, Copy paste the dump file here:
Seems like PHLASHNT.SYS has something to with this? Have someone have this same problem as me? The fans never stop, and I think its because of the old bios version. And:
1) No errors on the diagnosic test (full system scan)
2) I switched from Vista 32 bit to Vista Business 64 bit (original) with the signed drivers from dell.com (all my drivers are verified)
Code:
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* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
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DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (c4)
A device driver attempting to corrupt the system has been caught. This is
because the driver was specified in the registry as being suspect (by the
administrator) and the kernel has enabled substantial checking of this driver.
If the driver attempts to corrupt the system, bugchecks 0xC4, 0xC1 and 0xA will
be among the most commonly seen crashes.
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000081, MmMapLockedPages called without MDL_MAPPING_CAN_FAIL
Arg2: fffffa800b7a5120, MDL address.
Arg3: 000000000000008a, MDL flags.
Arg4: 0000000000000000, 0.
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May 9, 2009
Have a question for you. Last night I had my laptop connected up to the ECM of my car (for diagnostics purposes) and went for a drive with it connected to the ECM. No Problem. Got back from the trip and the battery was down to 4% so I promptly shut it down (after turning the car off).
I plugged the charger in and the battery is back up to 100% but for some reason the orange flashing battery light on the laptop keeps flashing. I have taken the power pack out and the battery is ok, works as per normal
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Jul 23, 2007
I've got a Dell Inspiron 9300. Recently, I flashed my vBios and had to do a blind flash. I've got a flash drive with all of the things needed on it, but I'm not so sure about the ROM. It was the only one I could find on the net, and it hasn't worked so far. I left the flash drive in for almost two hours, and it finally did the two beeps. It was on full auto mode and it didn't restart; it just sat there.
I guess I'm begging someone to send me a default bios for a Dell i9300's go 6800 gpu (NV41, according to dell, not sure if it matters).
Also, for clarification, the "backlight" refers to the monitor emitting a glow while still being blank, yes? Because as it is, the monitor doesn't even come on, much less emit any light.
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Jul 11, 2007
The battery/power signal (the three green LEDs right under the display on the right side) keeps flashing orange four times then blinks green once, and repeats.
The PC is on AC power and the battery is full too (99%). I don't know what the problem is.
I read around and it seems my battery is dead. Fortunately, my purchase of the XPS was just under a year ago, so I should get it replaced without paying up. I have a replacement battery that I bought at purchase. I hope it lasts loner. Do you guys reccomend taking out the battery when running on AC power?
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Feb 3, 2008
if i turn the pc off, when i turn back on, no boot up, no chance to press f2 f12 f8 nothing. the only thing that happens is the disk read light stays on, and the caps lock and looks like system lock lights keep flashing. the system will then eventually power off. i removed the battery (the laptop was always plugged into power) and it started. i then placed the battery back and it started normally.
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Dec 7, 2009
I have a Latitude E6400 running Windows 7.
Just booted up my machine: for some reason the battery LED light is flashing. The battery seems to be charging and if I take out the power chord, the computer keeps on running on battery power.
Update: when the battery completed charging, the battery LED just switched off.
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