Dell :: E1705 Cannot Upgrade To 7900GTX
Jan 24, 2008
After reading a ton about upgrading my e1705 to a 7900GTX (actually, an FX2500M), I went ahead and bought one on eBay. To my horror, the card doesn't fit.
I snapped off the little plastic parts that keep the left heatpipe from fitting; that isn't the problem. The problem is that Dell seems to have modified the motherboard to prevent such installations (my e1705 is a fairly recent one). At the top portion of the video card, there's a connector that matches a connector on the motherboard underneath. That motherboard connector is too high, which prevents the video card from inserting into its PCI Express socket. In addition, the videocard post on the upper right (where the screw would insert into the thread) is missing. That part isn't so important, but that damn connector definitely is.
1) Has anyone seen this before, on a newer model e1705?
2) The connector appears to be soldered on, so I'm not sure I could remove it even if I wanted to. Does anyone know if I *can* remove it, and if so, how? What is this connector used for? I assume it's some sort of SLI connector, since it has a matching one on the videocard itself?
Pictures will be provided upon request. I'm pretty bummed, as it appears I'm screwed. I'm also steamed at Dell, which has evidently modified their motherboards to prevent cheapskate upgrading.
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Mar 10, 2008
I'm thinking of upgrading my E1705. A while ago I upgraded to the 7900GS from my crappy ATI card.
Now I want a new CPU, more ram, and HD. Here is what I'm looking at
CPU
upgrading from a T2500 to Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 Merom 2.0GHz Socket M 34W Dual-Core.
RAM
upgrading from 2GB ram to OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Laptop Memory Model
HD
upgrading from Dell OEM HD 50GB 5400 rpm to HITACHI Travelstar 7K200 200GB 7200 RPM SATA 1.5Gb/s Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
total upgrade $ 550.00
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Nov 27, 2007
If you upgrade the e1705 GPU to say a 7950GTX GPU; don't you have to worry about the compatibility with the chipset? Or does the BIOS flash take care of that?
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Sep 4, 2007
As the title says I bought my E1705 in August of last year (2006). Current specs of the parts I'm looking to upgrade:
Processor: T2500
RAM: 1GB DDR2 @333MHz x2
GPU: GeForce Go 7900GS
I've been reading and trying to figure out which processors are compatable with my mobo. I think I have the "Napa" style mobo because I bought it in 2006, right? What options does that give me to upgrade to?
Also, is it possible to get two dimms of 2GB DDR2 667MHz RAM? Will my system support the 4 gigs of RAM or will I be wasting money because I've already reached the cap at 2gigs? Can my system support DDR2 800MHz RAM?
What are my options for GPU replacements? I feel like I have a pretty solid part right now but if I can upgrade it I'd like to. The only restraint is that I don't want to mod my laptop, so if I have to break something or cut something out then I don't want to do it. So basically I'm looking for GPUs that I can just drop in without any modding.
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Jan 26, 2010
I have a Dell E1705 / 9400. I want to upgrade RAM. Currenly i have 2 * 1GB 667 MHZ RAM. I want to upgrade to 4GB. Will my laptop support. I want to upgrade to maximum frequency ram. 800 Mhz or more. If its available.
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Feb 10, 2009
I just upgrade my E1705 wireless to Intel 4965 AGN. I also installed the third antenna, and my speed stays at only 54Mbps.
The system recognized the third antenna. I have a D-Link DIR-655 N Draft wireless router and have confirm that other laptop with N type down load 300Mbps.
I download the driver from Dell website, and the wireless work, but only at 54Mbps.
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Feb 21, 2008
I know it involves redoing the case, but what is the actual process?
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Mar 18, 2008
I hate my Radeon x1400. I think it is about time I get a newer Nvidia Graphic card. But Ebay is the only place that has 2 or 3 GeForce GO graphic cards... I really don't trust ebay.
Where does everyone get their graphic cards?
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Jan 6, 2009
I'm installing a Western Digital Scorpio Black WD3200BEKT 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Notebook Hard Drive into my E1705.
Yesterday, I pulled the old drive and put the WD into the bay, booted from Windows MCE CD, Windows installed files, rebooted and went to the GUI install screen. I tried to install 5 times and every time I would get the infamous 33/34 minute hang up.
I've read that this is usually due to the install media being corrupted, or Windows not being able to install a piece of hardware. So I also tried my second, never before used Windows MCE install disk (Dell had sent me two copies). That produced the same results.
My only conclusion is one of two possibilities. One, I just got a bum hard drive. I already have a replacement drive on the way from newegg to cover that base.
Two, I read that some copies of OEM operating system disks will not install with certain changes in hardware. Anyone heard of this? Is our copies of Dell Windows MCE stripped down in some way? Is it possible that our copy of Dell Windows would not recognize a WD hard drive?
Would seem really strange that a simple change in hard drive, especially considering Dell designed the bay to be plug-n-play upgradeable, would prevent a clean install of Windows.
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Mar 11, 2009
A couple days ago my E1705 laptop screen started flickering then shut off on me. I restarted my computer but then screen would still not turn on then i found out that my video card was fried.
I bought my E1705 back when Dell only offered the Ati x1400 and the 7800 geforce go cards and i currently have the 7800.
i have searched around and seen that the 7900 gtx go could be a replacement but everyone who talks about it as a replacement came with a later model E1705 with the 7900 gs installed already
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Dec 29, 2008
Having geforce go 7900 gs 256 Mb (17 inch, 1920x1200) died after 2 years of using it, but played only moderately. I noticed sometimes GPU was over 80 C. No more warranty, so I plan on getting a replacement.
7900 gs is 20 Watt current consumption. There are cards like 7900 GTX, FX2500M tht have 45 Watt. So roughly we could expect twice as much heat made if replaced to a 45 Watt card. Am I right here? Now, even 20 Watt card (7900 GS) was overheating with only single heat pipe. 7900 GTX or FX2500 would have to have for sure 2 heat pipes, but since we have twice as much heat, do we have the same situation?
What is your experience with 45 Watt video cards in Inspiron E1705 / 9400 ? Do they overheat (and break) as often as 20 Watt and single pipe cards?
And second question - reliability of refurbished cards or "working pulls" How long can they last? I know it all depends, how the previous owner was using it, etc. When buying used card, what possibly was overheated more? 20 Watt single pipe or 45 Watt dual pipe (like the question above)
I would appreciate any oppinion and experiences from you.
In the future, I plan to better take care of cooling, remove dust more often, use AS5 paste, fan control, use dual pipe. Anything else can be done? Maybe going to 20 Watt with 2 pipes - would probably cool down system the best.
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Dec 7, 2009
I recently bought a 7900gtx and a new power brick when my 7900gs crapped out in my e1705. My question:
Can I use the same version of the nvflash iso disc that i previously burned to overclock my new 7900gtx? If so do i use the clocks with the "V" in the code
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Nov 12, 2007
Will changing the voltage on the 7900gtx to 1.32v make any difference?
I noticed a few people here and there have done this.
what would be the benefit?
would it be more stable? or be able to clock higher?
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Sep 11, 2007
but on the card is said revision A01. In the BIOS, the Video BIOS version is 005.071.022.028.002.000. I wasn't aware they're made 2 revisions of the 7900GTX, is this card still safe to flash with the modified BIOS here?
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Sep 20, 2007
Well I bought a FX-2500, actually 2, the first had to go back - Dud.
I understand that the FX-2500 and 7900GTX are the same cards, with a different BIOS.
So is there any benfits to flashing the FX-2500 with the 7900GTX BIOS, I am a Gamer, so again my Understanding is the 7900GTX is more orientated for Gaming.
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Oct 1, 2007
Just recently upgraded my E1705 with a FX-2500
Flashed the unlocked BIOS with the 1.24 v GPU 500 -1200 clocks
3DMark06 came back @ 5180
Just wondering how this matches up with others here with a simular setup.
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Nov 6, 2007
Having installed a 7900gtx in my Inspiron 9400, I let Windows Vista download a Microsoft compatibility driver for the card as a temporary measure until I got round to trying out other drivers. I've since tried Nvidia's driver from their website which didn't recognise the hardware; the Dell driver (from the M170 driver section) and the Xtreme-G 163.69 and 162.62 drivers, all of which slowed down the graphics performance of the Aero effects and some caused flickering.
I did not use any special software to remove the drivers - just basic install/uninstall. I've rolled back to the Microsoft driver which works fine within Windows and runs games fine at low settings.
I now have an additional problem in that Corel Paintshop won't start due to a "Driver components mismatch."
What should I do? Has anyone else experienced performance loss with "better" drivers? or could that be down to the presence of the Microsoft driver?
How do I get this thing working with the wonderful performance I should have?
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Mar 6, 2008
After trying many drivers and having many questions left unanswered, I decided I wanted to try this route to see how it goes.
I was told when I bought my FX2500m that I could flash it with the 7900GTX BIOS since they are both the same card basically.
I'm having problems where I can play some games no problem, and others lock-up after only seconds of play, sifting through 5 drivers (NBF and Xtreme-G) I decided either I have a faulty card or maybe the FX2500m doesn't have a shader or whatever that some of the games I'm testing it with need.
I only have a couple more days to report this card as a DoA so I'm wanting to test all the possibilities before (possibly) shipping it back.
Long story short, can someone give me a link to a 7900GTX BIOS? And give me a quick run-down on how to go about actually doing the flash and backing up my own?
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Jan 19, 2008
Im writing this so that others who are curious about these types of cards can decide if the upgrade is right for them. This installation required me opening the laptop and breaking off a small piece of plastic, which was very easy. I also updated the system BIOS to A09 and acquired the 130 W PSU as this baby draws about 45W of power itself compared to the 20 the GS requires.
When I originally bought the GS I knew it was a good card. It still is. I got this card because I felt the upgrade would be more cost effective then rebuilding my old desktop PC. All I can say is that where the GTX shines is where the GS shows its weak spots. The GTX can really handle higher resolutions really well as well as keep the frame rate fairly smooth.
For my temps, since I AS5'd it, runs at about 45 idle and 75 peak which is fairly good considering all thats going on.
The biggest jump was in STALKER which quite honestly the GS really had trouble with. Im happy to report the GTX can max out this engine fairly well with little to no choppiness.
Well shoot, what are we waiting for lets see some pics and results.
7900GS specs
7900GTX specs
Bioshock- All Mazed out- no Vsync- 1920x1200 20-30FPS
Gears of War- All Maxed out- No Vsync- 20-30FPS
Stalker- All Maxed out- 1600x1200- Smooth 30-45FPS
In conclusion, the GTX stomps all over the GS in higher resolutions and with the extra clock and memory speed it can easily outperform the GS in almost every aspect. It should be noted these are stock speeds and OC'ing would result in hopefully even better performance.
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Mar 5, 2008
what is the best (best performance/most stable) driver out there for a FX2500m? Haven't heard much mention of the XTreme-G drivers on these forums, so I was just curious.
I found the thread here...
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and the website here...
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and the quote here...
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Originally Posted by TurbodTalon
MY OPINION ON DRIVERS: I have tried a dozen different drivers from stock to Laptopvideo2go to Geforce Tony's Extreme Drivers. All have given me roughly the same performance--and that's if they even worked. In other words, no one driver blew the others out of the water. What am I saying? Find a driver you like, and stick with it. There is no such thing as a 'Super Driver' at this point.
But my thead still stands, between those tested, what do you think?
I'll edit this first post with updates so people won't have to sift through this thread to see all my information..............
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Feb 18, 2010
So i can OC the video card slightly.
Can anyone plz help me?
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Nov 15, 2007
Dell :: According to Nvidia webiste 7900GTX & 7950GTX are NOT the same with different clocks ...
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Jul 4, 2008
I've been trying to find these cards for a while.. I've been searching for "dell FX3500", "FX3500", "FX3500M", same for the others, etc.
I can't find these cards for my 9400.. There's a lot of 7900Gs, but that's the card I already have!
Are there specific codes for those parts? I know the 7900GS is DG008, but I don't know of any for the cards I want.
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Jan 25, 2008
Even with Crysis winning the latest "Hog of the Year" award, it does have a decent GPU benchmark tool.
Please post any benches you've accomplished using the Crysis GPU Benchmark. I will post additional FX2500 OC numbers as time permits.
I also have a FX3500 inbound, so I'll update my post with that data as well once installed.
FX2500 [169.04 NBF MobileForce Drivers, All Medium Settings, No AA]
1024x768, Stock Clocks (500/600)
Min/Avg/Max
17.86/31.79/46.45
1024x768, OC 550/650
18.14/33.71/50.28
1440x900, Stock Clocks
11.51/21.41/31.68
1440x900, 550/650
12.55/23.46/34.22
1920x1200, Stock Clocks
8.48/14.37/20.93
1920x1200, 550/650
7.91/15.27/22.14
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Apr 23, 2009
i don't have a clear conclussion about the max ram that E1705 support. Some guys says that support 4GB and xp reads 3.5, but others says that support 2GB. and some users on this forum, in their signs, says 2GB of ram on E1705 laptops.
i wanna do a upgrade of ram , because i have 1GB. but i don't know if I will be able to put 3GB on my laptop..
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Aug 18, 2007
is it possible to put in Dell Inspiron E1705 4 Gb of RAM (2x2 Gb)? Please, respond if you know it surely or if you tried to do it.
Also, can anybody reccomend me good processor for this model? Have Core Duo t2400 - 1.83 Ggz.
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Jan 20, 2008
I was considering selling my E1705 before but after some research and input from others I came to the conclusion that I should just stick my my E1705 because the resale value is much lower than I expected (I wanted to sell my machine, get a small laptop for mobility and build a desktop).
So now I want to just upgrade my laptop to the max and maybe just get a shitty eee pc as my 2nd laptop to carry around everywhere.
Where is room to upgrade, things I am considering so far to up is
a T7600 CPU, 4GB 667mhz RAM, 200gb 7200rpm HD, GTX is a maybe... don't know how much difference there will be. How should I change my choices and what else can I upgrade.
Inspiron E1705, Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7200 (4MB/2.00GHz/667MHz)
17 inch UltraSharp TrueLife Wide-screen WUXGA
2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm
256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS
80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition
Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
Integrated High Definition Audio
Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 802.11a/g Mini Card
80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Module (2.0+EDR)
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Feb 20, 2009
I've been having a problem with my computer for the past 3 days, even when i am not doing anything, no programs running or anything the both cores indicate 100% the computer gets extremly slow. I've already formated the computer and it did it again with nothing but windows installed on it.
I tought it was getting too hot or something but the temp is 47 c AVG. i ran Dell diagnostic tool and everything Passed.
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Sep 23, 2007
I was readin a review on cnet last week, and there was an hp and a toshiba laptop with the same stats.. anyway, they did tests and cnet says that the quality of the RAM was probably why the test results were so diffrent.
Im looking to get more RAM for my e1705.
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Oct 5, 2007
This week I finally made the choice to get 2x2G sticks for my E1705. They arrived today and I installed them as soon as I could.
But unfortunately Windows XP Pro SP2 wouldn't start completely (it froze somewhere in the screen with the logo and the moving bar underneath). Windows does start in dafe mode and reports 3.25G.
The funny thing is, Mac OS X does load completely and run without a problem. I even mentions 4G installed.
I did a quick memtest and the sticks seem to be ok. I changed the order of the sticks and no difference.
Does anyone have experience with this? Is there a setting I need to change on my Windows. Or would I need to reinstall it (doesn't seem logical).
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