Dell :: Upgrade E1705 To M1710
Feb 21, 2008I know it involves redoing the case, but what is the actual process?
View 15 RepliesI know it involves redoing the case, but what is the actual process?
View 15 RepliesSo I bought an Inspiron 9400 bout two years ago, its a piece of shi*t ... i've had i dunno about 6 or 7 service calls now .... ANYWAYS
When I went to purchase a laptop I was looking at both the XPS and the laptop I decided on (E1705), and the only thing I noticed that was different was that the XPS was substantially more expensive, and had a different look ...
Not to insult anyone's taste or anything, but the look of the XPS is tacky as hell lol ... I mean, its inundated with the word XPS everywhere (even on the touchpad ... ?), i've never seen one in person ... maybe someone can explain to me haha
Anyways, the purpose of this post isn't about the aesthetic differences between the two series of laptops lol. A friend of mine who is in the market to purchase a laptop has asked me what the differences were ... and I couldnt answer him (hence why i'm posting)
What i'm asking then is, other then its shell, assuming the CPU, GPU, RAM, display are identical what is it that makes the XPS better and at a much higher price? Is the motherboard better, or are XPSes less prone to random breaking? If anyone can differentiate the two for me i'd appreciate it, so I can help my friend out before he drops $2.5k on a laptop
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NO, YOU CAN NOT USE ANY 8XXX SERIES CARD IN AN E1705/M1710.
GPU OVERCLOCKING: Go here, and carefully follow the instructions for your specific GPU: [url] All GPU's and systems are NOT created equal, meaning Johny Knucklehead's benchmarks may always be better than yours, even though you both have the same hardware.
IF YOU'VE GOT A BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH (BSOD) DUE TO A BAD GPU BIOS FLASH: [url] ZZpulp has made an excellent guide for recovering from a bad GPU BIOS flash.
Gaming laptops get HOT. That's one of those prices we pay for having a portable platform capable of playing Bioshock while you sit on your duff at the airport. Before you make a post complaining that your laptop is getting too hot, make sure to get some real numbers with one of these tools. Maybe it's just you.
OVERHEATING:
If your laptop is getting hotter than it used to, there are a few things to try before you lose your mind and start posting new threads with lots of exclamation marks.
- If you changed a component prior to the problem, you should start troubleshooting there.
- If this problem has crept up over time, you more than likely just need to clean the fan and heatsink area of your laptop. Dust, lint, pet hair, and other things are constantly being sucked through that area by your cooling fans. Most clean out their heatsinks every few months, or you can just do it whenever you notice those temps creeping back up.
Using compressed/canned air. I don't recommend this for a couple of reasons.
- This will work to an extent, but you aren't going to get everything out of there.
The compressed air could possibly spin your cooling fans at a dangerous RPM that may destroy the fan's bearings. If you insist on doing it this way, insert a straightened paper clip into the fan intake to keep it from spinning up.
- Some have also used a vacuum hose to suck debris from the heatsinks without opening the laptop. Again, the only way to get it ALL out is to open 'er up........
I've been doing a lot of reading, and I *think* I've got a handle on the best course for converting the e1705 to the m1710, one piece at a time.
I'm hoping those whove been down this path could chime in and confirm/deny what I believe to be correct.
OK, so I've got an e1705;
T7600
2GB PC5300
160GB SATA
WUXGA
3945 wireless (PCI-E)
7900 GS (single pipe)
So, I'm thinking I start by getting the m1710 motherboard.
From what I've gleaned from here, there, and everywhere, if I cut out the hole for the docking port on my e1705 base, the mobo is a direct swap-in, correct?
Everything listed above will work with the m1710 mobo, correct?
Until I get the m1710 palmrest, I can use the e1705 palmrest as is, correct?
Until I get the m1710 fans and speakers, I can use the ones from the e1705, correct?
The e1705 keyboard is a direct swap, correct?
Questions;
Will the card reader in the e1705 work with the m1710 mobo?
Will the left side USB ports plug in and work with the m1710 mobo?
Required; Upgrade to the 9 cell battery and 130W brick when putting in the new m1710 board.
A few auctions on Ebay claim the m1710's mobo will also drop into an e1705. That would allow for up 4GB RAM, and also allow me to use the T7600G CPU. I'm sure someone else has thought of this already. Is it possilbe? I see the motherboard for around $300.
View 15 Replies View RelatedI find this interesting, I came accross it on a torrent. This is only for PCs with SEE3. I'm almost down getting it, and will be testing it on my E1705. Only problem I foresee is my Quadro 2500M. Not sure how that's going to work out. This is what the guy says.
FOR Hackintosh Only! do not install it on real mac!
Attention: This DVD is designed for Intel architectures SSE3 HPET Only! IT IS BETA!
Custom INSTALL OSX DVD Leopard 10.5 (beta 9a527) wit 9.0b5 kernel from synthetix! )
Designed by Kalyway!
IN Utility menu at install:
Diskutil from Defiant so you can partition the whole hard disk!
Idefrag (from coriolis)
ASR Restoration
Languages : All!
Application & Drivers that comes optional at install :
DRIVERS : all uphucks drivers & patchs from 10.4.9 v 1.4 rev3!
Applications :
Adium (multiclient messenger)
Colloquy (irc client)
Transmit (ftp client)
kexthelper
NATIT & GMA950 Video Drivers ALREADY installed!
Use it at your own risk! this system is for testing purpose!
just install and reboot!
THX TO Synthetix & All OSX Developpers!
I want to know how to flash my E1705 MB with the M1710 or M90 Bios. I was told by 2 Dell repair shops I could gain the 10/100/1000 ethernet by flashing my E1705 board with the bios from the M1710 or M90.
I made a CD with the M1710 bios but when I boot up from the CD and try to run the Bios file for the M1710 I get a big red x saying that this bios is not supported on this board
My friend just told me he heard this was true. Can anyone confirm? I know there are 2 different brands of LCDs floating around in the E1705/9400. A Samsung model, and a Phillips. However he claimed that the M1710 used one different than the E1705/9400, and was a blazing 30% brighter.
View 10 Replies View RelatedI ordered a black XPS M1710 lid for my E1705 today as well as the XPS touchpad. I know the touchpad won't be able to light up, but I have a few questions:The XPS lid comes with LED's in the cover, will they light up with the E1705?
Can I buy an XPS fan assembly and put it in the E1705 to get the led's to light up in the fan's?
First have 2 drives of course. main drive and a Optical 2 SATA or PATA.
my howto is for a 320 and a 250 raided giving you 250/250 =465 real gb of space.
first partition the 320 drive when installing XP PRO so that you have your main partition 70gb and the rest leave for later. also just leave the other drive for later as well.
Install windows XP pro on the 70gb partition.
get your drivers etc programs etc and all other shit that you want setup.
next hack the registry to enable Dynamic Drives on XP-PRO. Funny cuz they say that you can't get dynamic drives on notebooks. not even with XP PRO.
go into :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServices
and change the following
.
in the services dir there is each reg dir and the corresponding start value.
you must change the start value to whats below.
dmadmin: 3
dmboot: 4
dmio: 0
dmload: 0
dmserver: 2
after that reboot.
then go into control panel, admin tools, computer management and then disk management.
right click on the windows drive and click on convert to dynamic.
it will pop up with a list of drives you have *2 of course cuz thats all we have* so check the other drive. and convert to dynamic. just say ok to the next few things it asks you. and reboot.
after reboot go back into disk management and right click on the second partition in the windows drive and click "new volume" and choose stripped in the list for what kind of volume. click next until format and do a quick format.
bingo you just created a raid 0 drive which will not be redundant but will be UBER QUICK.
mine has a 8ms response time.
sorry for my crappy howto. but I really wanted raid in my notebook and there was no howto's so it took alot of digging.
My Inspiron 9400/E1705 case is getting a little banged up and I was wondering if it's possible to use a M1705 case (bezel, palmrest, base, etc). as a replacement.
View 10 Replies View RelatedLooking to get some IN-GAME benchmarks with FRAPS, and see what different people's rigs are doing. Why are the M1730 guys allowed? Simple...so we can see what the new M1730 can do, and see if it is worth slapping another $3,000 to $5,000 down on the table.
RULES:
1- To rule out as many variables as we can, we should all use FRAPS for benchmarking. F-11 is the default key to start a benchmark.
2- Tell us about your rig. Be specific about hardware, OS, clockspeeds, and drivers. Having that info in your signature is even better.
3- Cut and paste straight from the FRAPS log that is created in C:Fraps. Be sure to specify what resolution you're using because FRAPS does not document this.
4- Specify what graphical settings you are using for that game. Saying 'Full Graphical Settings' means that you have every graphic option for that game maxed out, turned on, etc. In Bioshock you could say 'Full Graphical Settings, but Dynamic Lighting is Off'. In Oblivion it would be nice if you specify outdoors or indoors. You get the point.
5- TURN V-SYNC OFF. If your scores are pegged at 30FPS or 60FPS, that's nice, but tells us nothing. If you say 'Full Graphical Settings', we are to assume that V-Sync is off. You don't need to mention it.
It is obvious to me that this is not as foolproof as an ORB link. People can edit the text file to say whatever they want it to.
I'm thinking of upgrading my E1705. A while ago I upgraded to the 7900GS from my crappy ATI card.
Now I want a new CPU, more ram, and HD. Here is what I'm looking at
CPU
upgrading from a T2500 to Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 Merom 2.0GHz Socket M 34W Dual-Core.
RAM
upgrading from 2GB ram to OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Laptop Memory Model
HD
upgrading from Dell OEM HD 50GB 5400 rpm to HITACHI Travelstar 7K200 200GB 7200 RPM SATA 1.5Gb/s Notebook Hard Drive - OEM
total upgrade $ 550.00
If you upgrade the e1705 GPU to say a 7950GTX GPU; don't you have to worry about the compatibility with the chipset? Or does the BIOS flash take care of that?
View 15 Replies View RelatedAs the title says I bought my E1705 in August of last year (2006). Current specs of the parts I'm looking to upgrade:
Processor: T2500
RAM: 1GB DDR2 @333MHz x2
GPU: GeForce Go 7900GS
I've been reading and trying to figure out which processors are compatable with my mobo. I think I have the "Napa" style mobo because I bought it in 2006, right? What options does that give me to upgrade to?
Also, is it possible to get two dimms of 2GB DDR2 667MHz RAM? Will my system support the 4 gigs of RAM or will I be wasting money because I've already reached the cap at 2gigs? Can my system support DDR2 800MHz RAM?
What are my options for GPU replacements? I feel like I have a pretty solid part right now but if I can upgrade it I'd like to. The only restraint is that I don't want to mod my laptop, so if I have to break something or cut something out then I don't want to do it. So basically I'm looking for GPUs that I can just drop in without any modding.
So I started off with MaxRule's M1710 a few months back maybe a year now this September. (My Second M1710) Originally it was pretty basic with a 7900 GTX, 2ghz processor, and 2 gb of ram.
I think I'm truely addicted with just upgrading laptops piece by piece, I mean my 9300 I sold a while back went from a poor x300 to a7800 GTX, and I maxed out everything on it eventually.
Now I've currently moved this M1710 to a 7950 gtx, and a Blue Ray Drive come this Weds, and I'm wondering what I should do next. Should I go ahead and pick up a Core 2 Processor or get 4gb of ram for this thing? Orginally I just wanted to be able to watch movies, and didn't even realize it was blu ray burner as well.
And when I put in this Blue Ray Drive, will it be easy? Does it work with XP and Vista? I've heard it doesn't work with Vista. SHould I just get the Blu Ray Drivers from Dell's Website?
my M1710 currently has the following specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo T7400 @ 2.16 GHz
NVidia GeForce Go 7950 GTX (second replacement of original 7950 GTX; original fried after 14 months of use, first replacement fried after 5 months - Normal? From what I've read the 79xx series seems to have issues)
2 GB RAM @ 667 MHz (Original Dell memory)
80 GB 7200 RPM HD
Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit (currently don't have access to a 64-bit version, and I'm not sure I want to upgrade as several of the games I play aren't written for 64-bit)
Now that I'm out of classes until the fall, I thought I'd look into upgrading the RAM to 4 GB, however, I've got a few problems/questions stemming from my inexperience with RAM (thanks to this site and some research, I'm now at least familiar with the hardware behind CPUs and GPUs).
First, is the physical replacement of the modules really as easy as the videos that I've watched on CNet and the Dell upgrade websites i.e. open up the compartment on the back with a screw driver, pop up and slide out the old DIMMs, slide the new modules in at a 45 degree angle, push down, close compartment?
Second, is there any benefit to purchasing the Dell memory and/or restriction/caveat to using 3rd party RAM? Will installing 3rd party RAM void the 17 months I have left on my warranty on the system?
Lastly, and this may be a question better suited to the Gaming forum, what kind of performance difference can I expect besides the increased response time? Alt-Tab out of Supreme Commander in the middle of even a medium sized battle results in a wait of at least two minutes before the system is fully responsive. I've heard that Gas Powered Games has gone so far as advising the applying of a Microsoft patch that removes the RAM usage limit of a single program - has anyone else heard of this? What about performance in general usage? It's not uncommon for me to have IE and Firefox open, the former with e-mail (it takes issue with Firefox) and the latter with at least 20 tabs, of course both are closed when I start gaming.
The modules I'm looking at are:
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Last month, I saw the Dell was on sale for 20.99, but I didn't want to act because I was starting finals and didn't want to risk bricking my computer (you never know what may happen when I stick my hands into hardware). If the general advice is to go for the Dell, I'll wait until it goes on sale again before pulling the trigger (unless I hear a reason not to wait). Does anyone know of a general trend when it comes to pricing over at Dell i.e. during the summer, prices are at their peak, bottoming out sometime either late fall or early Spring?
I have a Dell E1705 / 9400. I want to upgrade RAM. Currenly i have 2 * 1GB 667 MHZ RAM. I want to upgrade to 4GB. Will my laptop support. I want to upgrade to maximum frequency ram. 800 Mhz or more. If its available.
View 7 Replies View RelatedI just upgrade my E1705 wireless to Intel 4965 AGN. I also installed the third antenna, and my speed stays at only 54Mbps.
The system recognized the third antenna. I have a D-Link DIR-655 N Draft wireless router and have confirm that other laptop with N type down load 300Mbps.
I download the driver from Dell website, and the wireless work, but only at 54Mbps.
After reading a ton about upgrading my e1705 to a 7900GTX (actually, an FX2500M), I went ahead and bought one on eBay. To my horror, the card doesn't fit.
I snapped off the little plastic parts that keep the left heatpipe from fitting; that isn't the problem. The problem is that Dell seems to have modified the motherboard to prevent such installations (my e1705 is a fairly recent one). At the top portion of the video card, there's a connector that matches a connector on the motherboard underneath. That motherboard connector is too high, which prevents the video card from inserting into its PCI Express socket. In addition, the videocard post on the upper right (where the screw would insert into the thread) is missing. That part isn't so important, but that damn connector definitely is.
1) Has anyone seen this before, on a newer model e1705?
2) The connector appears to be soldered on, so I'm not sure I could remove it even if I wanted to. Does anyone know if I *can* remove it, and if so, how? What is this connector used for? I assume it's some sort of SLI connector, since it has a matching one on the videocard itself?
Pictures will be provided upon request. I'm pretty bummed, as it appears I'm screwed. I'm also steamed at Dell, which has evidently modified their motherboards to prevent cheapskate upgrading.
I hate my Radeon x1400. I think it is about time I get a newer Nvidia Graphic card. But Ebay is the only place that has 2 or 3 GeForce GO graphic cards... I really don't trust ebay.
Where does everyone get their graphic cards?
I have an M1710 with a GO 7950 GTX video card. I also have a Dell 30" monitor that runs at a native resolution of 2560x1600 but the 7950 GTX will not go to full resoltuion. I would like to find a solution to allow me to run my monitor a full resoltuion.
Could I possibly install a Go 8700M card? Would it fit into the 1710 case.
I'm installing a Western Digital Scorpio Black WD3200BEKT 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Notebook Hard Drive into my E1705.
Yesterday, I pulled the old drive and put the WD into the bay, booted from Windows MCE CD, Windows installed files, rebooted and went to the GUI install screen. I tried to install 5 times and every time I would get the infamous 33/34 minute hang up.
I've read that this is usually due to the install media being corrupted, or Windows not being able to install a piece of hardware. So I also tried my second, never before used Windows MCE install disk (Dell had sent me two copies). That produced the same results.
My only conclusion is one of two possibilities. One, I just got a bum hard drive. I already have a replacement drive on the way from newegg to cover that base.
Two, I read that some copies of OEM operating system disks will not install with certain changes in hardware. Anyone heard of this? Is our copies of Dell Windows MCE stripped down in some way? Is it possible that our copy of Dell Windows would not recognize a WD hard drive?
Would seem really strange that a simple change in hard drive, especially considering Dell designed the bay to be plug-n-play upgradeable, would prevent a clean install of Windows.
A couple days ago my E1705 laptop screen started flickering then shut off on me. I restarted my computer but then screen would still not turn on then i found out that my video card was fried.
I bought my E1705 back when Dell only offered the Ati x1400 and the 7800 geforce go cards and i currently have the 7800.
i have searched around and seen that the 7900 gtx go could be a replacement but everyone who talks about it as a replacement came with a later model E1705 with the 7900 gs installed already
I have an XPS m1710 from the early days when the CPU was an Intel Core Duo T2500. My Dell died and the folks in India told me the mobo was bad.
So I replaced it and I still have the same problem. The problem was when I tried to turn the machine on I got a power light and HDD light for 1-2 seconds then he system shut down. Reading posts it seems my CPU is bad (when I replaced mobo I cleaned out significant dust bunnies from the fans.
So, my real question - - can I install an Intel Core 2 Duo T7#00 CPU in m system or do I need to find another T2500? I purchased a new desk model and I just dont want to toss a good laptop if there is a simple fix.
Having geforce go 7900 gs 256 Mb (17 inch, 1920x1200) died after 2 years of using it, but played only moderately. I noticed sometimes GPU was over 80 C. No more warranty, so I plan on getting a replacement.
7900 gs is 20 Watt current consumption. There are cards like 7900 GTX, FX2500M tht have 45 Watt. So roughly we could expect twice as much heat made if replaced to a 45 Watt card. Am I right here? Now, even 20 Watt card (7900 GS) was overheating with only single heat pipe. 7900 GTX or FX2500 would have to have for sure 2 heat pipes, but since we have twice as much heat, do we have the same situation?
What is your experience with 45 Watt video cards in Inspiron E1705 / 9400 ? Do they overheat (and break) as often as 20 Watt and single pipe cards?
And second question - reliability of refurbished cards or "working pulls" How long can they last? I know it all depends, how the previous owner was using it, etc. When buying used card, what possibly was overheated more? 20 Watt single pipe or 45 Watt dual pipe (like the question above)
I would appreciate any oppinion and experiences from you.
In the future, I plan to better take care of cooling, remove dust more often, use AS5 paste, fan control, use dual pipe. Anything else can be done? Maybe going to 20 Watt with 2 pipes - would probably cool down system the best.
I was going to be assembling an m1710 this weekend....
I called Dell Spare Parts a few days ago, and placed an order for the following;
HG345 Refurb bottom plastics, m1710
FF084 Refurb palmrest assy, m1710
J8841 Refurb speakers, LED, m1710
CF426 Refurb hinge cover, m1710
I've been watching the order on Dell's site all week, as it was scheduled to ship (on or before today) (2/21/08), and I opted for Next Day shipping.
When I placed the order, the woman I spoke with asked for my Service Tag number. I, um... don't HAVE one... I didn't say this, I simply said I don't have that information at the moment. She asked how I got the part numbers, and I told her from their own Spare Parts page.
Well....the order got cancelled today. Saw it online while at work, just before I left for the day. Another order number with the identical items was created, with a scheduled ship date of 3/3/08. WHAT?
The woman just called....she states they cannot process my order without a service tag number. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
I told her I don't have a tag number....she asked if I was building one. "Yes." To which I hear...
"Oh....well, I don't think our supplier will allow that without a service tag number, because we reserve those parts for people who bought m1710's."
I said "That's amazing...because I know a number of people who have done the same thing I'm trying to do, and had no problems getting these parts."
"Well, that's because they have m1710's"
*mad enought to scream at this point* "Um, no...where do you think I got the idea from?? I'm certainly not the first person to have this idea."
how I can get them to sell me some refurbished plastics? What's the secret password?
i don't have a clear conclussion about the max ram that E1705 support. Some guys says that support 4GB and xp reads 3.5, but others says that support 2GB. and some users on this forum, in their signs, says 2GB of ram on E1705 laptops.
i wanna do a upgrade of ram , because i have 1GB. but i don't know if I will be able to put 3GB on my laptop..
is it possible to put in Dell Inspiron E1705 4 Gb of RAM (2x2 Gb)? Please, respond if you know it surely or if you tried to do it.
Also, can anybody reccomend me good processor for this model? Have Core Duo t2400 - 1.83 Ggz.
I was considering selling my E1705 before but after some research and input from others I came to the conclusion that I should just stick my my E1705 because the resale value is much lower than I expected (I wanted to sell my machine, get a small laptop for mobility and build a desktop).
So now I want to just upgrade my laptop to the max and maybe just get a shitty eee pc as my 2nd laptop to carry around everywhere.
Where is room to upgrade, things I am considering so far to up is
a T7600 CPU, 4GB 667mhz RAM, 200gb 7200rpm HD, GTX is a maybe... don't know how much difference there will be. How should I change my choices and what else can I upgrade.
Inspiron E1705, Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7200 (4MB/2.00GHz/667MHz)
17 inch UltraSharp TrueLife Wide-screen WUXGA
2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm
256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS
80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition
Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
Integrated High Definition Audio
Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 802.11a/g Mini Card
80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Module (2.0+EDR)