Dell :: E1705 Vs. M1710
Feb 17, 2008
So I bought an Inspiron 9400 bout two years ago, its a piece of shi*t ... i've had i dunno about 6 or 7 service calls now .... ANYWAYS
When I went to purchase a laptop I was looking at both the XPS and the laptop I decided on (E1705), and the only thing I noticed that was different was that the XPS was substantially more expensive, and had a different look ...
Not to insult anyone's taste or anything, but the look of the XPS is tacky as hell lol ... I mean, its inundated with the word XPS everywhere (even on the touchpad ... ?), i've never seen one in person ... maybe someone can explain to me haha
Anyways, the purpose of this post isn't about the aesthetic differences between the two series of laptops lol. A friend of mine who is in the market to purchase a laptop has asked me what the differences were ... and I couldnt answer him (hence why i'm posting)
What i'm asking then is, other then its shell, assuming the CPU, GPU, RAM, display are identical what is it that makes the XPS better and at a much higher price? Is the motherboard better, or are XPSes less prone to random breaking? If anyone can differentiate the two for me i'd appreciate it, so I can help my friend out before he drops $2.5k on a laptop
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Oct 7, 2007
This guide will get lengthy over time. To search for a keyword in the guide, use the CTRL+F command.
NO, YOU CAN NOT USE ANY 8XXX SERIES CARD IN AN E1705/M1710.
GPU OVERCLOCKING: Go here, and carefully follow the instructions for your specific GPU: [url] All GPU's and systems are NOT created equal, meaning Johny Knucklehead's benchmarks may always be better than yours, even though you both have the same hardware.
IF YOU'VE GOT A BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH (BSOD) DUE TO A BAD GPU BIOS FLASH: [url] ZZpulp has made an excellent guide for recovering from a bad GPU BIOS flash.
Gaming laptops get HOT. That's one of those prices we pay for having a portable platform capable of playing Bioshock while you sit on your duff at the airport. Before you make a post complaining that your laptop is getting too hot, make sure to get some real numbers with one of these tools. Maybe it's just you.
OVERHEATING:
If your laptop is getting hotter than it used to, there are a few things to try before you lose your mind and start posting new threads with lots of exclamation marks.
- If you changed a component prior to the problem, you should start troubleshooting there.
- If this problem has crept up over time, you more than likely just need to clean the fan and heatsink area of your laptop. Dust, lint, pet hair, and other things are constantly being sucked through that area by your cooling fans. Most clean out their heatsinks every few months, or you can just do it whenever you notice those temps creeping back up.
Using compressed/canned air. I don't recommend this for a couple of reasons.
- This will work to an extent, but you aren't going to get everything out of there.
The compressed air could possibly spin your cooling fans at a dangerous RPM that may destroy the fan's bearings. If you insist on doing it this way, insert a straightened paper clip into the fan intake to keep it from spinning up.
- Some have also used a vacuum hose to suck debris from the heatsinks without opening the laptop. Again, the only way to get it ALL out is to open 'er up........
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Jan 13, 2008
I've been doing a lot of reading, and I *think* I've got a handle on the best course for converting the e1705 to the m1710, one piece at a time.
I'm hoping those whove been down this path could chime in and confirm/deny what I believe to be correct.
OK, so I've got an e1705;
T7600
2GB PC5300
160GB SATA
WUXGA
3945 wireless (PCI-E)
7900 GS (single pipe)
So, I'm thinking I start by getting the m1710 motherboard.
From what I've gleaned from here, there, and everywhere, if I cut out the hole for the docking port on my e1705 base, the mobo is a direct swap-in, correct?
Everything listed above will work with the m1710 mobo, correct?
Until I get the m1710 palmrest, I can use the e1705 palmrest as is, correct?
Until I get the m1710 fans and speakers, I can use the ones from the e1705, correct?
The e1705 keyboard is a direct swap, correct?
Questions;
Will the card reader in the e1705 work with the m1710 mobo?
Will the left side USB ports plug in and work with the m1710 mobo?
Required; Upgrade to the 9 cell battery and 130W brick when putting in the new m1710 board.
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Jul 23, 2007
A few auctions on Ebay claim the m1710's mobo will also drop into an e1705. That would allow for up 4GB RAM, and also allow me to use the T7600G CPU. I'm sure someone else has thought of this already. Is it possilbe? I see the motherboard for around $300.
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Sep 16, 2007
I find this interesting, I came accross it on a torrent. This is only for PCs with SEE3. I'm almost down getting it, and will be testing it on my E1705. Only problem I foresee is my Quadro 2500M. Not sure how that's going to work out. This is what the guy says.
FOR Hackintosh Only! do not install it on real mac!
Attention: This DVD is designed for Intel architectures SSE3 HPET Only! IT IS BETA!
Custom INSTALL OSX DVD Leopard 10.5 (beta 9a527) wit 9.0b5 kernel from synthetix! )
Designed by Kalyway!
IN Utility menu at install:
Diskutil from Defiant so you can partition the whole hard disk!
Idefrag (from coriolis)
ASR Restoration
Languages : All!
Application & Drivers that comes optional at install :
DRIVERS : all uphucks drivers & patchs from 10.4.9 v 1.4 rev3!
Applications :
Adium (multiclient messenger)
Colloquy (irc client)
Transmit (ftp client)
kexthelper
NATIT & GMA950 Video Drivers ALREADY installed!
Use it at your own risk! this system is for testing purpose!
just install and reboot!
THX TO Synthetix & All OSX Developpers!
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Feb 21, 2008
I know it involves redoing the case, but what is the actual process?
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Aug 9, 2009
I want to know how to flash my E1705 MB with the M1710 or M90 Bios. I was told by 2 Dell repair shops I could gain the 10/100/1000 ethernet by flashing my E1705 board with the bios from the M1710 or M90.
I made a CD with the M1710 bios but when I boot up from the CD and try to run the Bios file for the M1710 I get a big red x saying that this bios is not supported on this board
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Dec 1, 2007
My friend just told me he heard this was true. Can anyone confirm? I know there are 2 different brands of LCDs floating around in the E1705/9400. A Samsung model, and a Phillips. However he claimed that the M1710 used one different than the E1705/9400, and was a blazing 30% brighter.
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Jul 10, 2007
I ordered a black XPS M1710 lid for my E1705 today as well as the XPS touchpad. I know the touchpad won't be able to light up, but I have a few questions:The XPS lid comes with LED's in the cover, will they light up with the E1705?
Can I buy an XPS fan assembly and put it in the E1705 to get the led's to light up in the fan's?
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Jan 29, 2008
First have 2 drives of course. main drive and a Optical 2 SATA or PATA.
my howto is for a 320 and a 250 raided giving you 250/250 =465 real gb of space.
first partition the 320 drive when installing XP PRO so that you have your main partition 70gb and the rest leave for later. also just leave the other drive for later as well.
Install windows XP pro on the 70gb partition.
get your drivers etc programs etc and all other shit that you want setup.
next hack the registry to enable Dynamic Drives on XP-PRO. Funny cuz they say that you can't get dynamic drives on notebooks. not even with XP PRO.
go into :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServices
and change the following
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in the services dir there is each reg dir and the corresponding start value.
you must change the start value to whats below.
dmadmin: 3
dmboot: 4
dmio: 0
dmload: 0
dmserver: 2
after that reboot.
then go into control panel, admin tools, computer management and then disk management.
right click on the windows drive and click on convert to dynamic.
it will pop up with a list of drives you have *2 of course cuz thats all we have* so check the other drive. and convert to dynamic. just say ok to the next few things it asks you. and reboot.
after reboot go back into disk management and right click on the second partition in the windows drive and click "new volume" and choose stripped in the list for what kind of volume. click next until format and do a quick format.
bingo you just created a raid 0 drive which will not be redundant but will be UBER QUICK.
mine has a 8ms response time.
sorry for my crappy howto. but I really wanted raid in my notebook and there was no howto's so it took alot of digging.
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Aug 12, 2008
My Inspiron 9400/E1705 case is getting a little banged up and I was wondering if it's possible to use a M1705 case (bezel, palmrest, base, etc). as a replacement.
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Oct 8, 2007
Looking to get some IN-GAME benchmarks with FRAPS, and see what different people's rigs are doing. Why are the M1730 guys allowed? Simple...so we can see what the new M1730 can do, and see if it is worth slapping another $3,000 to $5,000 down on the table.
RULES:
1- To rule out as many variables as we can, we should all use FRAPS for benchmarking. F-11 is the default key to start a benchmark.
2- Tell us about your rig. Be specific about hardware, OS, clockspeeds, and drivers. Having that info in your signature is even better.
3- Cut and paste straight from the FRAPS log that is created in C:Fraps. Be sure to specify what resolution you're using because FRAPS does not document this.
4- Specify what graphical settings you are using for that game. Saying 'Full Graphical Settings' means that you have every graphic option for that game maxed out, turned on, etc. In Bioshock you could say 'Full Graphical Settings, but Dynamic Lighting is Off'. In Oblivion it would be nice if you specify outdoors or indoors. You get the point.
5- TURN V-SYNC OFF. If your scores are pegged at 30FPS or 60FPS, that's nice, but tells us nothing. If you say 'Full Graphical Settings', we are to assume that V-Sync is off. You don't need to mention it.
It is obvious to me that this is not as foolproof as an ORB link. People can edit the text file to say whatever they want it to.
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Feb 21, 2008
I was going to be assembling an m1710 this weekend....
I called Dell Spare Parts a few days ago, and placed an order for the following;
HG345 Refurb bottom plastics, m1710
FF084 Refurb palmrest assy, m1710
J8841 Refurb speakers, LED, m1710
CF426 Refurb hinge cover, m1710
I've been watching the order on Dell's site all week, as it was scheduled to ship (on or before today) (2/21/08), and I opted for Next Day shipping.
When I placed the order, the woman I spoke with asked for my Service Tag number. I, um... don't HAVE one... I didn't say this, I simply said I don't have that information at the moment. She asked how I got the part numbers, and I told her from their own Spare Parts page.
Well....the order got cancelled today. Saw it online while at work, just before I left for the day. Another order number with the identical items was created, with a scheduled ship date of 3/3/08. WHAT?
The woman just called....she states they cannot process my order without a service tag number. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
I told her I don't have a tag number....she asked if I was building one. "Yes." To which I hear...
"Oh....well, I don't think our supplier will allow that without a service tag number, because we reserve those parts for people who bought m1710's."
I said "That's amazing...because I know a number of people who have done the same thing I'm trying to do, and had no problems getting these parts."
"Well, that's because they have m1710's"
*mad enought to scream at this point* "Um, no...where do you think I got the idea from?? I'm certainly not the first person to have this idea."
how I can get them to sell me some refurbished plastics? What's the secret password?
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Apr 23, 2009
i don't have a clear conclussion about the max ram that E1705 support. Some guys says that support 4GB and xp reads 3.5, but others says that support 2GB. and some users on this forum, in their signs, says 2GB of ram on E1705 laptops.
i wanna do a upgrade of ram , because i have 1GB. but i don't know if I will be able to put 3GB on my laptop..
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Aug 18, 2007
is it possible to put in Dell Inspiron E1705 4 Gb of RAM (2x2 Gb)? Please, respond if you know it surely or if you tried to do it.
Also, can anybody reccomend me good processor for this model? Have Core Duo t2400 - 1.83 Ggz.
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Jan 20, 2008
I was considering selling my E1705 before but after some research and input from others I came to the conclusion that I should just stick my my E1705 because the resale value is much lower than I expected (I wanted to sell my machine, get a small laptop for mobility and build a desktop).
So now I want to just upgrade my laptop to the max and maybe just get a shitty eee pc as my 2nd laptop to carry around everywhere.
Where is room to upgrade, things I am considering so far to up is
a T7600 CPU, 4GB 667mhz RAM, 200gb 7200rpm HD, GTX is a maybe... don't know how much difference there will be. How should I change my choices and what else can I upgrade.
Inspiron E1705, Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7200 (4MB/2.00GHz/667MHz)
17 inch UltraSharp TrueLife Wide-screen WUXGA
2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm
256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS
80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition
Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
Integrated High Definition Audio
Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 802.11a/g Mini Card
80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Module (2.0+EDR)
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Feb 20, 2009
I've been having a problem with my computer for the past 3 days, even when i am not doing anything, no programs running or anything the both cores indicate 100% the computer gets extremly slow. I've already formated the computer and it did it again with nothing but windows installed on it.
I tought it was getting too hot or something but the temp is 47 c AVG. i ran Dell diagnostic tool and everything Passed.
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Sep 23, 2007
I was readin a review on cnet last week, and there was an hp and a toshiba laptop with the same stats.. anyway, they did tests and cnet says that the quality of the RAM was probably why the test results were so diffrent.
Im looking to get more RAM for my e1705.
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Oct 5, 2007
This week I finally made the choice to get 2x2G sticks for my E1705. They arrived today and I installed them as soon as I could.
But unfortunately Windows XP Pro SP2 wouldn't start completely (it froze somewhere in the screen with the logo and the moving bar underneath). Windows does start in dafe mode and reports 3.25G.
The funny thing is, Mac OS X does load completely and run without a problem. I even mentions 4G installed.
I did a quick memtest and the sticks seem to be ok. I changed the order of the sticks and no difference.
Does anyone have experience with this? Is there a setting I need to change on my Windows. Or would I need to reinstall it (doesn't seem logical).
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Mar 8, 2008
Purchased a e1705 in June of 2006. Started having the NMI parity errors within a month.
Contact Dell and they swapped out memory. The problem seemed to be better, but still linger for a while with the NMI errors. Installed Vista on the system and cant remember ever having an error. Then I installed Counter-strike, and started getting the error back. Recontacted Dell and they replaced the motherboard and ram. That hosed my vista install where printing, control panel, stopped working. Backed up my data and reinstalled after formating the drive Windows XP using the Dell disks I received. Now the system isnted on for more than 5-15 minutes without an NMI error.
Oh, now dell is wanting me to send my laptop to a depot where they can make sure its fixed. I will now be without any laptop, working or not for around 2 weeks.
I have the 4 year extended warranty with accident protection.
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Feb 15, 2009
Will Dell replace this unit? Their is no way they can replace the parts, which model will they replace it with? specs are below............................
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Oct 3, 2009
I installed Windows 7 64 bit on my e1705.
Apparently everything seems working.
But on the Device manager, one thing is not recognized.
It is shown as:
Other devices - Base System Device.
Its location is PCI bus 3, device 1, function 3.
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Apr 21, 2009
How can I overclock my Dell E1705?.......................
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Mar 10, 2009
Trying to let the AS5 set right now, hope the temps are lower than the other CPU since it was using one of those cheap cpu pad things.
Next on the upgrade list is the biggest 7200RPM drive that will fit.
Then another 2Gb of RAM for a total of 4Gb!
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Nov 30, 2009
I was using a 7900GS in the laptop but that died...(excellent product from dell, dies after about 2 years)
Anyway I was just using it as a HTPC so I don't need gaming graphics.
Anyway, I was outputting fine 720p to my reciever and then TV, after replacing the card (with an X1400) I can't output anything to the recieiver. When I plug it in it says nothing is there?
I've also dried the DVI-hdmi adapter...instead of DVI-hdmi cable which shouldn't make a difference but I gave it a shot....
I tried plugging it in directly to a normal LCD instead of the reciever and still nothing
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Oct 19, 2009
Spending significant time tonight, looking through many tutorials, this site often being the one I visited the most, I've decided to upgrade my e1705 .....
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May 20, 2009
Just bought one and wanted to know what the best cooler would be for it. Newegg doesn't sell the Pacific Breeze cooler .
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Sep 23, 2008
An hour ago, I accidentally dropped my Inspiron E1705. The notebook fell from 3ft high and hit the ground on its bottom side (the same position you use the laptop). I tried to turn it on to see if it worked and here's what I found:
The notebook turns on and the battery charges
The hard drive led is blinking like booting
The keyboard works
No beeps
Screen is blank, no video at all, I tried using an external monitor and got the same result
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Dec 19, 2009
Well my E1705 was sent in for warranty, and Dell informed me a few weeks ago I would be recieving a replacement system instead of them fixing mine. I guess they were out of stock of parts needed to fix my trusty E1705....
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Sep 27, 2009
My laptop has shut down abrubtly twice because of overheating. When I powered the laptop again, it would bring me to that overheating warning prompt with the two nasty beeps and whatnot.
Since I'm running Windows 7 x64, I wasn't able to install i8fangui, but I found a program called SpeedFan (http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php) that I'm running right now.
Here are the current temperature readings for everything:
GPU: 73 C (there's a fire icon next to this. can't imagine that's good)
HD0: 36 C
Core 0: 50 C
Core 1: 50 c
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