Dell :: Overcloced FX2500/7900GTX And FX3500/7950GTX Crysis Benches
Jan 25, 2008
Even with Crysis winning the latest "Hog of the Year" award, it does have a decent GPU benchmark tool.
Please post any benches you've accomplished using the Crysis GPU Benchmark. I will post additional FX2500 OC numbers as time permits.
I also have a FX3500 inbound, so I'll update my post with that data as well once installed.
FX2500 [169.04 NBF MobileForce Drivers, All Medium Settings, No AA]
1024x768, Stock Clocks (500/600)
Min/Avg/Max
17.86/31.79/46.45
1024x768, OC 550/650
18.14/33.71/50.28
1440x900, Stock Clocks
11.51/21.41/31.68
1440x900, 550/650
12.55/23.46/34.22
1920x1200, Stock Clocks
8.48/14.37/20.93
1920x1200, 550/650
7.91/15.27/22.14
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Jul 4, 2008
I've been trying to find these cards for a while.. I've been searching for "dell FX3500", "FX3500", "FX3500M", same for the others, etc.
I can't find these cards for my 9400.. There's a lot of 7900Gs, but that's the card I already have!
Are there specific codes for those parts? I know the 7900GS is DG008, but I don't know of any for the cards I want.
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Sep 1, 2007
I have just installed a fx2500 in my M90 and was wondering if I flash it with the Fx3500 bios would it become a fx3500? It seems from the specs that the only difference is the core/memory speed.
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Sep 20, 2007
Well I bought a FX-2500, actually 2, the first had to go back - Dud.
I understand that the FX-2500 and 7900GTX are the same cards, with a different BIOS.
So is there any benfits to flashing the FX-2500 with the 7900GTX BIOS, I am a Gamer, so again my Understanding is the 7900GTX is more orientated for Gaming.
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Feb 18, 2010
So i can OC the video card slightly.
Can anyone plz help me?
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Nov 14, 2007
I can't get ati tool to run in vista64, so would really help me if i knew where the realistic ceiling lies
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Jan 23, 2008
I can play Obilivion, Bioshock, UT3, and even crysis (1200x800 medium) at good frame rates with good quality visuals turned on. I had previously just accepted that I was stuck with games like doom3 and quake4 only.
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Nov 15, 2007
Dell :: According to Nvidia webiste 7900GTX & 7950GTX are NOT the same with different clocks ...
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Apr 22, 2009
had a dell e4200 with the ultra performance solid state drive upgrade in my hands for a day or two last weekend. i'd looked everywhere for benches on the upgraded drive before purchasing, but i couldn't find them anywhere. so when i got the computer i decided to take some benchmarks to help out any other shoppers.
couldn't take any write benchmarks because the drive was an o.s. drive. i believe this drive is an slc drive with samsung's second generation ssd controller.
i don't have access to the laptop anymore, so i might not be able to answer any questions you may have about the drive or the laptop itself. but i'll try my best.
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Apr 25, 2008
I don't know if anyone here has noticed, but there have been a crapload of FX3500s going for around $150 recently. There are still a few up for auction. You just need to look under "fx3500" when you search. Sure, they are used, but they are stated to be in working condition.
I was going to get one myself, but it would be an incremental upgrade from my 2500, and I didn't think the hassle of buying one and installing it would be worth rolling the dice for a slightly higher OC. Plus, the guy has good feedback, but nobody had given feedback for these particular cards last time I checked. This is important because the guy can't seem to get his part numbers right. From the information I have, the CG129 and YF209 (both of which are given in the description) are the FX2500 and 7900 GS, respectively. I would want to be sure I was actually getting a 3500.
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Feb 2, 2008
My puter got messed up and I booted my delta OC'd card into Shitsta for 2 hours. and then decided to go back to XP.
my card died.
I still have a fx2500m but am lookin @ a fx3500.
Is the fx3500m HDCP compliant like the GTX?
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Nov 19, 2007
Just got a FX2500 installed in my 1705 and my 3dmark 05 score went from 59xx to 8546 and that's still running stock speeds, cant wait to see what it gets once I push up the clock rate some.
BTW anyone who's on the fence about doing this, its was a very easy install took all of about 20 minutes to do and is a very solid upgrade for the money. Got mine off ebay for $140!
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Aug 27, 2007
I went to upgrade my M90 (currently FX1500) to a FX2500 card, but I think the new card is DOA. What happened was when I installed it and rebooted it showed what looked like blue vertical stitching across the “Windows XP loading” screen, and then it was blank at the login screen. Also I noticed it was hot when I took it out, when it was only in for 2-3 min.
I have a 7 day return on this E-bay purchase but don’t want to waste time in returning it if it’s just a driver issue.
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Is it dead?
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Aug 31, 2007
Are the FX series cards a direct plug and play card in the E1705/9400 laptop or is a BIOS mod required ?
Seems these cards are selling alot cheaper than the 7900 series cards on Ebay.
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Dec 7, 2009
I recently bought a 7900gtx and a new power brick when my 7900gs crapped out in my e1705. My question:
Can I use the same version of the nvflash iso disc that i previously burned to overclock my new 7900gtx? If so do i use the clocks with the "V" in the code
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Jan 8, 2008
So here we go :
1) I'm ordering in a FX2500 to replace my 7800 go. I'm currently using Extreme-G Mobileforce driver 92.91 (I've tried some of the newer versions but prefer this one). Will this driver be compatible with the FX2500?
2) What are the best drivers for the FX2500 if not Mobileforce?
3) Overclocking... I've read the posts about flashing the 7900GTX bios to enable overclocking, does this mean i cannot overclock using the normal software way. In the Mobileforce drivers for the 7800, the option is in the Advanced Settings options in Windows. Does the FX2500/7950GTX not have this option and is BIOS flashing the only way to overclock the card?
4) If the BIOS flash is to enable voltage adjustments as well as clock adjustments, is this something I need to do or will the card do well with just altered clock speeds?
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Nov 12, 2007
Will changing the voltage on the 7900gtx to 1.32v make any difference?
I noticed a few people here and there have done this.
what would be the benefit?
would it be more stable? or be able to clock higher?
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Sep 11, 2007
but on the card is said revision A01. In the BIOS, the Video BIOS version is 005.071.022.028.002.000. I wasn't aware they're made 2 revisions of the 7900GTX, is this card still safe to flash with the modified BIOS here?
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Oct 1, 2007
Just recently upgraded my E1705 with a FX-2500
Flashed the unlocked BIOS with the 1.24 v GPU 500 -1200 clocks
3DMark06 came back @ 5180
Just wondering how this matches up with others here with a simular setup.
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Nov 6, 2007
Having installed a 7900gtx in my Inspiron 9400, I let Windows Vista download a Microsoft compatibility driver for the card as a temporary measure until I got round to trying out other drivers. I've since tried Nvidia's driver from their website which didn't recognise the hardware; the Dell driver (from the M170 driver section) and the Xtreme-G 163.69 and 162.62 drivers, all of which slowed down the graphics performance of the Aero effects and some caused flickering.
I did not use any special software to remove the drivers - just basic install/uninstall. I've rolled back to the Microsoft driver which works fine within Windows and runs games fine at low settings.
I now have an additional problem in that Corel Paintshop won't start due to a "Driver components mismatch."
What should I do? Has anyone else experienced performance loss with "better" drivers? or could that be down to the presence of the Microsoft driver?
How do I get this thing working with the wonderful performance I should have?
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Mar 6, 2008
After trying many drivers and having many questions left unanswered, I decided I wanted to try this route to see how it goes.
I was told when I bought my FX2500m that I could flash it with the 7900GTX BIOS since they are both the same card basically.
I'm having problems where I can play some games no problem, and others lock-up after only seconds of play, sifting through 5 drivers (NBF and Xtreme-G) I decided either I have a faulty card or maybe the FX2500m doesn't have a shader or whatever that some of the games I'm testing it with need.
I only have a couple more days to report this card as a DoA so I'm wanting to test all the possibilities before (possibly) shipping it back.
Long story short, can someone give me a link to a 7900GTX BIOS? And give me a quick run-down on how to go about actually doing the flash and backing up my own?
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Jan 19, 2008
Im writing this so that others who are curious about these types of cards can decide if the upgrade is right for them. This installation required me opening the laptop and breaking off a small piece of plastic, which was very easy. I also updated the system BIOS to A09 and acquired the 130 W PSU as this baby draws about 45W of power itself compared to the 20 the GS requires.
When I originally bought the GS I knew it was a good card. It still is. I got this card because I felt the upgrade would be more cost effective then rebuilding my old desktop PC. All I can say is that where the GTX shines is where the GS shows its weak spots. The GTX can really handle higher resolutions really well as well as keep the frame rate fairly smooth.
For my temps, since I AS5'd it, runs at about 45 idle and 75 peak which is fairly good considering all thats going on.
The biggest jump was in STALKER which quite honestly the GS really had trouble with. Im happy to report the GTX can max out this engine fairly well with little to no choppiness.
Well shoot, what are we waiting for lets see some pics and results.
7900GS specs
7900GTX specs
Bioshock- All Mazed out- no Vsync- 1920x1200 20-30FPS
Gears of War- All Maxed out- No Vsync- 20-30FPS
Stalker- All Maxed out- 1600x1200- Smooth 30-45FPS
In conclusion, the GTX stomps all over the GS in higher resolutions and with the extra clock and memory speed it can easily outperform the GS in almost every aspect. It should be noted these are stock speeds and OC'ing would result in hopefully even better performance.
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Jan 24, 2008
After reading a ton about upgrading my e1705 to a 7900GTX (actually, an FX2500M), I went ahead and bought one on eBay. To my horror, the card doesn't fit.
I snapped off the little plastic parts that keep the left heatpipe from fitting; that isn't the problem. The problem is that Dell seems to have modified the motherboard to prevent such installations (my e1705 is a fairly recent one). At the top portion of the video card, there's a connector that matches a connector on the motherboard underneath. That motherboard connector is too high, which prevents the video card from inserting into its PCI Express socket. In addition, the videocard post on the upper right (where the screw would insert into the thread) is missing. That part isn't so important, but that damn connector definitely is.
1) Has anyone seen this before, on a newer model e1705?
2) The connector appears to be soldered on, so I'm not sure I could remove it even if I wanted to. Does anyone know if I *can* remove it, and if so, how? What is this connector used for? I assume it's some sort of SLI connector, since it has a matching one on the videocard itself?
Pictures will be provided upon request. I'm pretty bummed, as it appears I'm screwed. I'm also steamed at Dell, which has evidently modified their motherboards to prevent cheapskate upgrading.
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Mar 5, 2008
what is the best (best performance/most stable) driver out there for a FX2500m? Haven't heard much mention of the XTreme-G drivers on these forums, so I was just curious.
I found the thread here...
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and the website here...
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and the quote here...
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Originally Posted by TurbodTalon
MY OPINION ON DRIVERS: I have tried a dozen different drivers from stock to Laptopvideo2go to Geforce Tony's Extreme Drivers. All have given me roughly the same performance--and that's if they even worked. In other words, no one driver blew the others out of the water. What am I saying? Find a driver you like, and stick with it. There is no such thing as a 'Super Driver' at this point.
But my thead still stands, between those tested, what do you think?
I'll edit this first post with updates so people won't have to sift through this thread to see all my information..............
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Oct 26, 2007
how does it run?
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Aug 16, 2007
I just got a 7950GTX for my Dell E1705 from Ebay, my questions is, is there any way I can check to make sure this is indeed 7950GTX not some fake 7900GTX with bios mod. I just ran a quick 3DMark 05 with 90w power supply and got like 7250 score... I am waiting for that 130W power supply,
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Oct 22, 2007
Well the singple player demo is due on friday, and nowhere on the internet can I find how it will run on my system. Whos getting it? This is one of the main reasons I forked out so much for this thing, so I hope it plays well, even if I do have to use DX9.
Id love to hear from anyone how it goes who ran the MP demo, or plans to get the SP demo when it arrives. On a M1710 - 7950 anyway.
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May 29, 2008
I just bought a 7950GTX for my e1705/9400 and installed fine. The board seems to work smooth in both XP and Vista. But since I want to work with quad-buffer-stereo modes (in XP), I want to turn this board to a quadro one. As far as I read, 7950GTX is the same board with FX3500M.
This transformation job could be done either with two ways. Software... using Rivatuner bla bla. And by flashing the board to another using nvflash and -6 -5 -4 parms. For my own reasons, I didnt want to do it with any kind of software and I tried the hard way....
Result??? Nothing!!! After I flashed my 7950GTX to a FX3500M, on the first reboot everything became black! The board seems to be not recognized by my machine or was not working So, I had to re-flash it back again to it's original state.
Does anybody from here has already done this before? Because from what I saw personally, must be one of the following cases:
1) the 7950GTX cannot run with an FX3500M bios! So the boards are NOT exactly the same.
2) the bios I used for quadro (FX3500M G71 board p469h7g v05.71.22.45.05) is not compatible with my board (7950GTX G71 board p468h6 v05.71.22.46.06) and I may need another
3) my Inspiron e1705/9400 with the latest bios A09 (but also with the older A08) cannot recognize and boot properly with any FX3500M board.
In case that someone has a FX3500M already installed and working on a 1705/9400, please let me know about board's bios version and I may need a copy of his rom.
Also, If somebody knows if this could be done please let me know too.
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Jan 8, 2008
I am thinking about to get a new FX2500m card.
Is it a good idea to play Crysis with it?
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Aug 29, 2007
I'm trying to figure out what is going on with my 7950GTX. Any drivers I use in XP have problems. ALL the drivers I have used (93.77, 94.22, 158.18, 158.45, 163.44) have had my LCD go to Black then come back to the normal image, almost as if the LCD lost power and was turned back on.
However, When I put Vista on to see if that would fix the problem, I was plagued with nvlddmkm.sys has stopped responding and has recovered errors, with the same LCD problem as in XP.
Also, while I'm in XP, I MUST disable NvMcTray form starting up or I will blue screen after I login and see the nVidia icon in my system tray.
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