Dell :: Inspiron 1720 VS Studio 1747
May 25, 2010
After putting up with countless BSOD's and failed harddrives on the Inspiron 1720, they send me a refurbished Studio 1747. Bigger hard drive space, HD screen, and twice the ram are very enticing to keep this machine. But the Inspiron's GPU AND CPU processors are faster (compare Intel Core i7 720QM processor and ATI Mobility Radeon 4650 graphics to the dual 2.0GHz centrino duo nvidia geforce 8600m GT). And I also found it silly that they would include an HD screen but not a blue-ray disc reader. So since DELL told me over the warranty phone line that they would "match the specs of your [my] old computer," should I just keep this or run some benchmarks on some games and figure this out? I don't want to spend more time on this if I have to if it is common knowledge that I got a good ad deal.
edit: forgot to add that the studio runs windows 7 64bit and inspiron is running w7 32 bit
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Apr 22, 2009
I currently have a Dell Inspiron 1720 with a second hard disk I bought and fitted myself. If I get a Studio 17, will I be able to fit this hard disk into the second bay in there? As far as I'm aware the disk itself should be okay, but the caddy might be slightly different for that model - is that right? If so I'll just buy a new caddy or modify this one - otherwise I'll be £100 down for this hard disk!
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Dec 3, 2009
Does anyone have any idea why? Is this something affecting Dell globally or is it just UK/Europe in a mess?
I guess I could survive with just wireless G, but it seems ridiculous to be limited to that these days;
I guess I could also just order it and pick up an intel/dell Wireless N card for ~£25 and install it myself,
but again the question arises, why is it necessary? I assume some of you do have an 802.11n card of some description in your 1645/1747's have you seen any problems with it? .....
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Nov 6, 2009
I'm university student and ntb is meant to be carried almost daily (16" is ok for me), it's mainly for multimedia oriented jobs, some programming in C and Mathematica, some photoshop or even premiere (occasionaly), A LOT of movie watching. I also want it to be futureproof and well-built.
Dell XPS 1645 meets most of my criteria, but there are few things I'm unsure about...
1) after reading a couple of reviews and many posts on this forum I'm really doubtful if RGB-LED is worth the extra money. I'm not doing colour sensitive job (however I do sometimes edit RAW images in PS), but i want things on the display to look natural, especially in FullHD movies... (and I'm occasional gamer too)
Those who had honor to work with RGB-LED: would you pay for it in my position???
And just to make sure I haven't overlooked something: biggest DISadvantages of RGB-LED are supposed to be: inaccurate colors, bigger power consumption and some heat produced;
while advantages should be: 0,4" gain in size, wider gamut and (maybe) better brightness...
Do you know any more to be added?
2) I'm also considering usual Studio 17 with Core i7 720QM (almost the same config), because it should be cooler, it has numpad and place for additional hdd (I'd buy 80GB intel ssd 34nm for system while keeping stock 500GB for data, I think it's beatiful idea), but what I DISlike about studio 17 is: dimensions, weight, speakers and design (and maybe a bit worse overal built quality).
So which one do you think is better for me?
3) how does combined e-sata/usb work? Since I have a external e-sata drive I have to plug 2 cables at the moment: USB for power and e-sata... With this 2-in-1 port do I need only 1 special cable? Or is it meant to be either/or thing??? From the placement of combined e-sata/usb on the opposite side of ntb than other USBs I'd say that 1 cable should be enough,
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May 4, 2010
This is for the Dell USA site as of 5/6/2010....any other countries and/or times YMMV
There are some notable differences between the 1747 and 1749 being offered via the Dell Studio 17 selector
1749:
ATI 5650
i3-350M, i5-430M, i5-520M (No i5-540M or i7-620M. No Quad Core Options)
1066 memory (Makes sense since dual core i3,i5,i7's only support up to 1066 memory)
9-Cell battery as default option
1yr Warranty default
1080P "RGBLED" panel Description/Product Code = DH1080F / 320-8968
1747:
ATI 4650
i7-720QM, i7-820QM (No dual core options at all)
1333 memory support
9-Cell battery as default option
2-yr warranty default (No 1 yr option)
1080P "B+RG" panel Description/Product Code = CH1080F / 313-8043
Blue Ray RW drives are now an option for both @ $150.00
Intel 6200/6250 options are available for both
I'm definitely curious about the panel changes along with system board revisions to see if the 1749 supports Quad Core CPUs.
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Apr 4, 2010
I purchased a Studio 1747 from Dell online. On the left side, I have a tv tuner port.
I have tried hooking up an antenna but Windows Media Center does not detect a tv tuner on this laptop.
Is there something I'm doing wrong? or did dell not install the tuner? or is it a dummy port?
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Jan 3, 2010
2 years ago i ordered a Vostro 1700 that took ages to arrive because of i think back then screen supply problems.
Now we ordered a few new Studio 1747 with the Core i7 820 procs the order date was 1 December.. But now i got a mail that the delivery date is pushed back to 17 of February!! Wooot???
It seems that dell is many times just saying that you can order new systems but most of the time they can deliver one bit?
Its orderd from dell.nl, how are other orders doing in Europa? Are the 1747 with the Core i7 being delivered in the states?
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Dec 20, 2009
I've been getting this weird problem with the 'M' key on my keyboard.
It randomly doesn't acknowledge a keystroke. And it's completely intermittent. I'll just notice that an M is missing from my messages or from a URL.
Latest BIOS and Chipset upgrades are installed, that's what Dell Support told me to do. And then nothing.
I really don't want to send my laptop in, it's always such a hassle.
Any ideas? I know if I wait long enough I can just replace the keyboard off of Ebay if it's the hardware that's the problem.
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Dec 25, 2009
i got the Intel X25-M G2 80GB SSD for Christmas, and i'm looking for some help installing it. Mainly, does anyone know where i can get the hard drive caddy that is apparently needed to install a second drive (my 1747 has just one HDD)?
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Nov 30, 2009
This is for me not really acceptable, we are almost in the year 2010 and i find it weird that there are still b/g cards sold....
I definitely dont want only b/g but i do want n (most of us around me now have 50+ Internet connections and i hope the have next year 60/6 or even higher)
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Feb 14, 2010
Has anyone had their Studio 1747 with a 1080p screen crash while playing 1080p video full screen?
I tried playing a movie trailer full screen in 1080p on youtube and mine crashed.
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Nov 4, 2009
Configured with a dedicated 1G ATI Radeon HD4650 graphics card, will it run decently with something maybe like Crysis at an HD resolution of 1920x1080?
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Jan 25, 2013
I know the Studio 1747 has it's fair share of Bios problems that haven't been fixed yet (naughty Dell) but the one I'm having issues with right now is that my system wont boot at all from USB.
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Mar 26, 2013
It is an automatic drive. My computer says the bluray drive is working right. Tried right clicking and ejecting and hitting the eject button. It is an automatic slot drive. Tried windows software to find problem and it couldn't work either. It worked just 10 mins before it happened. It is a windows 8 pro OS. HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD CA10N is the drive windows calls it.
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Feb 19, 2013
i have a dell studio 1747 notebook. now i am facing a problem . while playing games (Hot pursuit, Â call of duty etc) after 5 to 10 minutes it Shuts Down but i can do normal works like browsing , office , or some simple softwares etc. then heat increases normally and Shuts Down after 3-4 hours. Â
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Jul 9, 2010
My computer is the dell 1747 Studio Laptop running Windows 7 Professional. It has the built-in Synaptics Touch Pad. When you drag your finger on the far right side of the pa, it auto scrolls through the document on the screen.
I use my Laptop almost exclusively with a remote desktop connection. I process large documents (some as many as 200 pages). If I accidentally drag my hand or finger up or down on the left side of the touch pad, it begins to scroll. Since it is a remote desktop connection, it will not stop scrolling until it reaches the end of the document either up or down. I have to sit and wait for it to finish scrolling before I can use the computer again.
I would like to know how to turn OFF auto scrolling on the touch pad. There is a "wheel" setting in the device setup menu but you can only turn it down to "1" not "zero".
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Apr 20, 2010
I just bought a Studio 1749 with a Dutch US international keyboard. The US backlit keyboard is the only backlit one and not an option here.
The only difference is the missing € symbol at key number 5, for which I don't care so much.
Now I'm trying to find the US backlit keyboard at eBay or Amazon without success. Is there a way to find one aftermarket and get it shipped to Europe?
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Nov 30, 2012
my studio 1747 (not in warranty) (i7 win7),has stopped booting anymore it was working fine till last week ( occasionally my screen does flick in last coupon of month), So when I do turn my system on all upper volumn light flashes from left to right and then right to left and then system turn off itself, during that period screen show no display.
connecting external monitor (TV via hdmi) does work and system boots fine show display on external monitor but no display on system LCD. Something display flicks on external montor also, it happens when my laptop LCD tries to display something (i.e. sometime laptop LCD flicks and sometime it display for few seconds and then go back to Black screen). Also when connect external monitor my mouse pad stops work and sometime works when I connect usb mouse, but when LCD screen start display something, mouse pad also starts work.I tried all stuff, whatever I could find on internet as below Â
1) Taking battery off and press power button for 1 min. Â
2) Hold 'D' key and then press power button LCD sometime show some color and then goes back to black. Â
3) Removed battery and CMOS battery to total drain of charges. Â
4) Removed keyboard panel and checked LCD display cable and make sure its not loose.
To me it seems like motherboard, graphic card are fine as system is working on external monitor, LCD screen also looks fine as sometime is display and not greying out (its either Black-out or display). As I have also checked cable is properly attached with motherboard, so it can't be loose connection. Don't understand why LCD works sometime.
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Apr 21, 2009
I have done a search on this so forgive me if its been addressed already. I found no answers.
I have seen taht a number of Inspiron 1720s have the 8600m GT card in them with 512 mb of memory, while others such as mine have the same card, but with 256mb memory on them.
I'm getting ready to start doing some photoshop work as well as some CAD work. I'm going to start my engineering degree as soon as I finish my current degree. Would this increase in memory help out in what I will be doing?
Will it also help in gaming? I pretty much use this laptop for everything and am trying to learn what I can about it so I fully understand it's capabilities and such.
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Mar 30, 2009
I am stuck looking at a black screen. Also, when closing the lid I am unable to open the lid and restore my previous session.
Although I am not sure if this is directly related but it seems to only deter me from restoring the session if the computer has been plugged in, otherwise the laptop comes back exactly as it was.
I have tried reinstalling the video driver twice, both times doing a complete clear and removing all registries tied to them
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Feb 9, 2010
I was bored tonight so I ran some benchmarks on my 1720, Specs in Sig
Only change was the GPU was overclocked.
1st Pic is 3DMark @ stock clocks.--------3449
2nd Pic is 3DMark Overclocked-----------4366 Old 4259, 4271, 4280
3rd Pic is Vantage @ stock clocks--------P1115
4th Pic is Vantage Overclocked-----------P1457 Old P1410
I didnt get time to finish a Vantage run on my last set oc clocks since it needed tweaking due to display driver crashes. GPU temps never reached higher the 67*C when overclocked
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Mar 5, 2009
Whenever I close the computer it will crash. Upon re-opening it I am greeted with the BIOS loading screen and the the message telling me my computer was not properly shut down.
I'm not really sure why this happens. If anyone has had this problem and knows how to fix it ....
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Nov 7, 2007
my friend bought a new inspiron 1720 with an 8400m graphics card and he is trying to play counter-strike and it sucks so he wants to replace that with a different a better graphics card what are his choices, does he have the opportunity to put like a 7900 gs or no
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Jul 16, 2007
anyone run a benchmark utility such as Lavalys Everest or Sisoft Sandra or similar to tell me the name of the manufacturer of the Firewire chipset in the Inspiron 1720 please? Not the motherboard or CPU chipset, just the firewire component of the laptop, please.
The benchmark software is free, and they tell you what components are inside your particular computer.
Reason I'm asking is that I have an external firewire soundcard (for professional music recording), and for maximum compatibility the soundcard manufacturer recommends the soundcard only be used with certain firewire chipsets.
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Oct 17, 2008
I was wondering if it is possible to install Vista Ultimate 64 bit so that I can dual boot with the Vista Home Premium 32 bit my inspiron 1720 came preinstalled with.
Also, can I load an operating system from an external hard drive?
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Sep 21, 2007
i just bought a new dell laptop 1720, dual core T5250, 2gb memory, and nvida geforce 8600 gs, and im trying to play some source but its really laggy, i dont know if its my internet or what but im getting about an average of 50 fps, and my internt coneection i ested is download speed at 4922kbps, and upload speed at 489kbps.
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May 11, 2009
Last night, I opened my Dell Inspiron 1720 (specifications in my signature) with the help of this website, to clean it.
I opened it till this step -
I cleaned this part, and vacuum cleaned the body. There was so much junk ....
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Apr 11, 2009
i think something is wrong with my windows or my hard drive failed, can't figure out which one.
In one scenario when i start windows normally it says i can't load a registry file and refuses to continue
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Oct 1, 2008
The set up are as follows:
T9300
8600M GT
320GB 7200rpm x2 (640GB)
6GB RAM
(4GB G.Skill and 2GB Kingston memory) both PC2-5300 @ 5-5-5-15
Ultimate 64
1920x1200
A09 BIOS
Purchase of RAM
The 4GB RAM Module is purchased from newegg. Unfortunately, newegg doesn't ship products to Singapore, so I had to use Vpost (Vpost gave a US address and everything)... Then Vpost will ship it to Singapore.
This is a follow up thread from Does the Inspiron 1520 Support 8Gigs and How to upgrade your M1530 to 6GB of RAM
Installation procedure:
As usual, I only installed the RAM on DIMM A. I have not tested it on DIMM B, not too sure if it works or even to the extent of the BIOS or mobo detecting it.
UPDATED (Friday, Oct 3, 2008; 11:52am): DIMM B also works. See this screenshot for details.
I got myself a black keyboard. Just ignore it. No, it's not an Inspiron E1705 people. My friend from the UK (Migrated here, now living in Singapore) didn't want his Vostro 1700 anymore, so for no reason, he gave me the keyboard.
As usual, open the hinge cover and gain access to the DIMM A RAM underneath the keyboard. Instructions can be found here: [url]
Make sure you slot it properly into the slot...
Once fixed, especially the keyboard and hinge, boot into your BIOS to double check it. Here, it is written as 6142MB.
Also, make sure you're using the latest A09 BIOS released from Dell.
Testing
Things just don't stop here. Just because it "sees" or, "detects" 6GB of RAM, doesn't necessarily mean we can assume that the 6GB will be utilized because, it is widely stated that the 1720 cannot support more than 4GB of RAM, and so as most Santa Rosa machines. The same goes for the others. Here, I did some interesting "Mythbusters" style tests... I got lots of drawings and graphics that I do everyday, like 3DS Max and all those workstation stuff. But specifically, I am going to launch 2 of the most vicious RAM eaters out there. They're non other than Photoshop and Corel PhotoPaint.
Tuesday 8 Oct 2008 11:17am UPDATE: VMWare Workstation v6.5 will be tested!! This will really help to see if there's a performance boost with 6GB RAM installed, and be utilized..............................
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May 8, 2010
So I've had the laptop since Aug 2007, works great, specs in sig. Only have one problem with it. the laptop likes to punish me. It shocks me. Literally shocks me. I think it's where the paint as worn off on the base. Around the corners, the bottom, ect. If I have it on my lap I need to make sure I don't wear shorts. I can feel a slight amount of electricity sting my legs, or forearms. It's a slight stinging sensation. Anyone else experience this? It's been going on for a little while. I thinking the only fix would be to A) repaint it or B) get a new base for it. Don't really want to repaint it as it might look crappy. Other than HDD issues from time to time, I've never had a problem with it and it's still my main computer.
Anyone else encounter this? Could it be that I have a pinched wire thats exposed and making contact with the base? If any, I think it would be the monitor wires, I seem to recall them being nicked and exposed.
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