Dell :: M4400 BIOS A11 Results
Jan 11, 2009
Thought i'd start a new one for this.
Experiences so far:
-Fan isn't on as much as with A09, not running on lower speed when cooling is unnecessary
-Still downclocking!! Though it seems weird because the GPU doesn't go over 81c even with OC @ 600/900/1590.
Besides that all is good actually.
I installed all other new updates etc. also HDD firmware for the seagate.....there is still a weird latency problem that's picked up by dcp latency checker but for me that doesn't give any audible problems (not even when producing music
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Apr 2, 2009
The Studio XPS 13 should have a lower power consumption than the m4400 because of the small screen size(13"vs15"), lower power CPU(TDP of 25 vs 35), and a lower power graphics card (9200M vs 770M)...
Notebookcheck reports that the XPS 13 lasts 3hrs20min on idle, no wifi, and min brightness and 1hr10min under full load and max brightness...
In contrast they also report that the m440 will last 4hrs31min and 1hr35min respectively...
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Apr 4, 2009
I upgraded my M4400 Bios from A06 to A13 when it came out a week or so ago and was initially really happy about the much lessened fan usage.
But since then my computer gets so hot that its impossible to keep it on my lap even after 15 minutes of use.
That I could still handle but the keyboard and the palm rests get pretty hot and it feels very uncomfortable.
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Feb 8, 2010
1. Updated Intel(R) Active Management Technology firmware.
2. Updated PXE OPROM
3. Updated TPM MA/MP driver.
4. Showed LOM MAC address in BIOS setup.
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Nov 5, 2009
Got my swap today! ( swapped cause heat/fan issues ). The first thing i noticed when i booted up eas that it came with A16 Bios. Latest on th Dell site is A15. Anyone got some info on this???
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Dec 2, 2009
Fixes/Enhancements
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1. Updated thermal table.
2. Removed HDD Acoustic support.
3. Added password support for remote console.
4. Fixed issue where Local KB control is not released properly during or after IDER session.
5. Enhanced INT 19h support.
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Feb 16, 2009
Which bios is the best for gaming to avoid gpu downclocking and overheating? It seems that both the A02 and A03 are both recommended here in this forum, but which is the better one for gaming?
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May 23, 2009
I downloaded it but didn't see any noticeable changes in the temps and whatnot.
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Feb 16, 2010
Is anyone having problems with random complete system lockups under bios A19. Everything on my computer instantly freezes (no bsod) and I have to hold the powerbutton down to reboot
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Mar 25, 2009
First of all, I have no idea if this has already been covered on the "Precision M4400 Owner's Lounge" thread, I have not been following it for it getting longer and longer.
So, I opened a new thread to tell everyone that Dell has released BIOS A13 for the M4400. I installed it yesterday, and not only is my machine quieter under light load, its graphics performance is also higher - much higher, actually.
I used to think that my FX1700M was not affected by the downclocking, but now I stand corrected.
It WAS indeed downclocking heavily as it seems. When I was playing some UT3 a couple of hours ago, I suddenly actually had double(!) the frame rate compared to what I had with BIOS A12.
I maxed out some settings to see what would happen, and at settings that I was not able to make it run smooth some weeks ago I now got 30 to 40 frames per second
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Dec 7, 2009
hows modern warfare 2 run?
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Aug 15, 2009
Since the P8600 is a fairly common CPU on the XPS Studio 13/16 I thought this would be worth posting.
Stability was confirmed at each FID with Orthos for 60 minutes. I chose to disable SuperLFM and IDA. Under 100% load, at 2.4GHz the reported CPU temp dropped almost 12 degrees C. Obviously the difference was less at reduced speeds, but still worthwhile.
I do not notice any difference in the way the computer responds or performs, so as far as I am concerned this is free cooling. I was able to get 4hr 15min on the 9-cell battery with screen brightness @ 30% and low CPU demand (IE8 with wifi) so it probably modestly improves battery life too.
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May 19, 2009
just wondering how you guys get on with modern games with the ati gpu as i may have to get one of these machines and any performance indicators would be nice to see
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Sep 17, 2009
Running IntelBurnTest at the highest setting for 5 times, on my HP Laptop with a T9400-2.53ghz it causes the temps to go to 105 degrees which is the max temp and this causes an automatic downclock to 1.6Ghz for sometime. System is stable though. Also the times increase for each run meaning as the system gets hotter the clock downgrade to 1.6ghz is more frequent in each sucessive run.
Is this normal?
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Aug 18, 2007
I finally got what is the old school Generation 2 look which IMO looks better. click here if you're interested to see how it looks like. Custom parts include the slot load DVD, keyboard, Atheros card and seagate hard drive. Future plans include quadro card sticker (being mailed) and maybe an internal camera mod.
After assembling everything, I continued to do more benchmarking using 3dmark05 and overclocking under vista. I've heard stories about vista hurting performance, but my god does it murder a good amount of framerates and performance. Non-overclocked, I got a best of 8582 on XP, and 7749 under vista.
After reflashing the vid bios and playing with rivatuner and atitools, I started at 575 core and 650 mem, ran 3dmark05, scored 9320. At first, I was pretty amazed at the score considered what vista did to it when it wasn't overclocked. I thought it would go somewhere where it was under XP (non overclocked). Anywho, I decided to up it a bit to 600 core and 700 mem. This time, 3dmark05 gave me a 9110. I tried it again, this time turning off any programs running in the background, and got a similar score. I lowered both clocks back to what it was when i scored the 9320 and ran it again. This time, it gave me an 8840.
Pretty interesting how these scores came about, but has anyone been in a similar situation? I'm thinking about going back to XP or just make a double partition for it, once i figure out how to w/o wiping half my HD.
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Feb 8, 2010
It would be good to know what games work how well with what machines. That might save us some headaches and time to know what the limitations are
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Apr 17, 2010
Done some testing of chargers and charge rates. My non scientific findings as follows.
Battery start capacity 91.3%.
After 19 minute charge time -
Using 70watt charger :
Off 98%
On low power 98%
On full power 97%
Using 30watt charger :
Off 98%
On low power 97.5%
On full power 94.5%
To conclude the larger charger mostly maintains charge rate regardless of load on the computer.
The standard 30w charger maintains its charge rate on normal use, yet go to 100% CPU and charge rate drops by around 50%. It possible this could be far worse with an external USB HDD attached, 3G dongle and so on.
It seems that the computer can consume a little more than the 30w charger can output, but only of use in extreme circumstances.
Even with a larger charger the charge rate may drop if you had the computer consuming excessive levels of power, not sure what point this may occur.
Additionally batterymon charge rate indicator did not support the real world test.
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Jul 31, 2009
Did anyone manage to overclock the SU3500?
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Jul 31, 2009
I've browsed the discussions and have seen problems similar to, but not exactly the same as, my problem, hence the new thread.
Problem: I have a brand new Inspiron 1545 from Dell online. When I type text in Internet Explorer (e.g. webmail applications or this forum), even at a relatively slow speed, many of the keys don't seem to register --
that is, letters or spaces whose keys I press do not show up on the screen. As a result, I must type verrry slowly to make sure that every letter/space shows up, or else go back to re-type it. Strangely, I do not have this problem when typing text in, say, Notepad .....
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Feb 20, 2013
I have anĀ Inspiron 17R SE 7720 and ti works great however when I plug it into an external monitor LG W300H the resolution displayed is quite low. I try to choose a higher one but there are no options for higher resolutions. It's actually quite a bit lower than the resolution displayed on the laptops own screen.
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Oct 21, 2008
One of the things that truly bugged me about this laptop was that it only shipped with 533MHz RAM (PC2-4200) when the hardware supported 667MHz (PC2-5300). When I started looking to upgrade I was bugged again that the 667MHz memory I was finding had a CAS Latency of 5 where the 533MHz ran at CL4. Then I finally located some 667MHz CL4 memory and decided to pull the trigger.
I am happy with the purchase and would recommend the upgrade to anyone with this laptop. I can't say if I used the best memory benchmarking program, but at the very least I can publish my results using SiSoftware Sandra Lite:
1) Memory Bandwidth test (HIGHER is better)
2) Memory Latency test (LOWER is better for both)
3) Cache & Memory test (HIGHER is better for Combined, LOWER is better for Speed factor)
PC4200 CL4 2x1GB (Original memory)
1) Memory bandwidth 3524 MB/s
2) Memory latency 138 ns, Speed factor 66.0
3) Cache & memory Combined index 9375 MB/s, Speed factor 14.2
PC5300 CL5 2x1GB (borrowed from a friend during the upgrade for reference)
1) Memory bandwidth 3588 MB/s
2) Memory latency 122 ns, Speed factor 63.7
3) Cache & memory Combined index 9645 MB/s, Speed factor 13.3
PC5300 CL4 2x1GB
1) Memory Bandwidth: 3663 MB/s
2) Memory Latency: 114 ns, Speed factor 55.2
3) Cache & Memory: Combined index 9910 MB/s, Speed factor 12.6.......
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Jul 10, 2009
I just want to show you how much overclock you can expect from the HD4650 Mobile graphic card. Wait for 1080P Full HD results.
I don't have external monitor to do 1280x1024 standard test, I'll post the results next week when my monitor arrived.
( Due to poor 128Bit memory controller VGA can't handle 1080P res gaming even with No AA/All settings Low & Crysis FPS stay below 25. However 720P gaming is superb & Crysis stay above 36FPS all time with NO AA/ All Medium setting)
Notebook : Sony VAIO VGN-FW41M/H (UK Version)
VGA Card : ATI HD4650 Mobile Card (512MB DDR3)
ATI Driver version : 9.6
Benchmarked Resolution : 1280x720
Benchmarked software : 3DMark06
Default clock speed results
Overclocked Results
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Nov 18, 2008
First take the battery out and remove the bottom part like so.
Then you have to take the fan off there are 3 screws to take out and unplug the fan connector.
After you take out the CPU heat sink "there is 4 screws".
Then the Video card heat sink 3 screws.
Once that is done I took the CPU out you don't have to take it out I just wanted to see it. You do have to take out all the extra thermal past from DELL from the CPU and GPU and the 2 heat sink like so.
I use a plastic card and paper towel to remove the extra paste and it workes grate.
Now for the AS5 put on each of the components you just clean as in the CPU and GPU and the 2 heat sink like so.
same go's for the CPU and GPU then jsut use a falt plastic card I just use a master card but any thing similer will do to even out the SA5 like don't try to get it all nice and flat just make sure it covers all the surface of contact of the CPU GPU and heatsink and you should be good, it soule look like that now.
Now just re insert the GPU heat sink and tight the 3 screws back.
After it's the CPU heatsink and it's 4 screws like so.
Now the fan 3 screws and one connoctor.
Close it all up and boot Hope it helps some of you.
Mine was 55 and idle and now 49/50.
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May 20, 2009
Considering that this is a "heavy duty" notebook, how much would a 25W processor (e.g., P9600) increase battery life and decrease heat? In my experience, the difference has been very little for relatively similar notebooks.
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Jun 28, 2009
I am considering buying a Precision M4400 but I've read about various audio problems, even with the audio outputs .....
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Jun 10, 2009
I'm currently trying to decide between the M4400 and the HP 8530W. Please could any M4400 owners let me know their thoughts (happy or otherwise)?
The basic specs are as follows:
Dell: P8600 CPU, 4GB RAM, 160GB 7200rpm HDD, Quadro 770M, 1920x1200 display, 6-cell battery.
HP: T9400 CPU, 2GB RAM, 160GB 7200rpm HDD, Quadro 770M, 1680x1050, 8-cell battery.
They're about the same price where I live, and both have a similar lead time. I've had no major problems with Dell in the past, but the M4400 seems to have been slated here and elsewhere for its build quality and design issues. The HP is by no means immune, but it does seem to come off lighter .....
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Aug 17, 2009
When I got my M4400 last week, it had Vista Business installed - wasn't bad and unlike most people, I've NEVER had issues with Vista Anyway being a Microsoft Gold customer, I got my hands on the Windows 7 Ultimate RTM version and installed this on the laptop.
It has transformed the laptop just like it did my PCMUCH quicker, the graphics seem a lot happier in W7 too.
I've installed all my other tools such as SQL2008, Office 07, Virtual PC with VMs, VS 2008 etc etc but it doesnt even flinch under pressure.
If you are happy with M4400 and Vista, you will be even happier with W7 - small mini review but I thought I should give you my quick thoughts on it.
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Mar 2, 2009
what kind of battery life you're getting from your M4400, with specifics...
list down your spec, which battery you have, and what programs you were running..
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Mar 29, 2009
I'm getting about 15-20MB/s (transfer speed) transfering files from my Lacie d2 Quadra(eSATA 3 Gbits port) to my M4400 with Vista 32Bit thought eSATA port.
eSATA port has 3 Gbit/s bandwidth, so I wouldn't get about 300-375 MB/s transfering data?
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Jul 8, 2009
I'm looking to replace a 3-year old IBM X60s that recently failed.
I'm considering a refurbished M4400 from Dell Outlet, and I have a couple of questions:
1.) How is Dell Outlet service and what quality can I expect from them? I know from Lenovo Outlet, most of the refurbished items are actually in immaculate condition. Is that the case for Dell Outlet? Is customer service and shipping times good?
2.) When browsing through the available M4400s, I see listings for both 15.4" WXGA and 15.4" WXGA LED. Are there M4400s with CCFL backlit WXGA panels? When configuring a new one, the only option for WXGA is LED.
And any other comments, advice, warnings, etc,
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