Dell :: Warning About Studio XPS 1647 BIOS And 1645
Dec 5, 2009
today I bricked my new 1645 when I was examing the BIOS for the 1647. The BIOS release 1647_A00.exe released this month automatically begins flashing on an 1645
and does not seem to check compatibility or confirm with the user before it updates.
The BIOS is completely incompatible with the 1645 to say the least, so be very careful if you download it on to a non-1647 system.
Dell is building a new system due to this really sad event. Rip XPS 1645 - December 5th 2009.
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Mar 14, 2010
ftp://ftp.dell.com/bios/1647_A05.exe
ftp://ftp.dell.com/bios/1645_A08.exe
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Jan 28, 2010
I currently have the Studio XPS 1645. My uses for the machine are client visits, presentations, and occasionally gaming on the road.
I probably only log 5 hours a week on the laptop 3 weeks a month and 30 or so in the other week (when I am not at home).
I have read about the throttling issue and this is my last day to return. So knowing my usage pattern. Would you keep the quad core or change out for the 1647.
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Feb 23, 2010
I am looking to get a Studio XPS 16 soon, but can't quite decide on which model to get and had a few questions...
1) What is the battery life of the 1647 (i5) compared to the 1645 (i7) assuming they have the same specs. I've read that i5's should last longer, but I really couldn't find anything comparing the two for these systems.
2) When configuring the 1645 and 1647 side-by-side with the same specs. The 1647 is about the same price as the 1645, if not more (depending on which processor selected). I thought the i5's were supposed to be less expensive than the i7's. Since they are about the same price, would it be better to go with the i7? Any reason to choose the i5 over i7?
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Jan 4, 2010
I am one of the many people here who has a defective Studio XPS 1645 (random crashing and throttling issues). I was promissed a replacement system by a tech support supervisor and Studio XPS 1647 was mentioned by him as a replacement for the 1645 system which will fix all outstanding issues (as claimed by him). I don't have a detailed system configuration yet and will post as soon as I recieve one.
I just don't want to be a beta tester for Dell once again if 1647 proves to have design flaws like the 1645.
Does anyone out there have 1647 yet? Is this an upgrade to 1645 (hope its not a downgrade)? Should I accept this offer or demand a full refund?
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May 2, 2010
Yesterday my computer crashed 3 times for no reason so I went to check BIOS and by chance found out that my ram is actually 1066Mhz. The order sheet says I ordered 4GB, DDR3, 1333MHz 2 dimm, and I remembered I did as well. So, did Dell send me the wrong RAM?
Or, as I've googled, is this all a Dell marketing scam such that the 1333MHz ram we ordered only performs at 1066Mhz by default and you'll have to manually overclock it to perform at 1333Mhz (which may not be safe for the system)?
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Feb 21, 2013
When I boot up my PC it comes to a screen expressing that the battery is critically low and the AC Adapter cannot charge properly, press F1 twice to continue.
The computer continues to boot up fine, but is running strictly off AC power. It boots up the same with or without the battery locked in. I even bought a used, but guaranteed functional battery and it had the same result.
After researching a lot online I saw a common solution is to update the Bios. Currently my system has Bios A01, and I have tried updating to A07, A11, and even A00 without luck. When running the executable in Windows 7, just before it flashes the system with a new bios I get fail message saying operation cannot complete because AC Adapter and battery must be present and functional.
So I found a guide online to create an MS-DOS startup boot drive, along with the Bios .exe's which can be run from MS-DOS. The system booted up into MS-DOS mode fine, but I received an error running the .exe, "Cannot run in DOS mode". I also tried to run the .exe with the /forceit command afterwards with no luck.
So at this point I don't know if my laptop simply needs a BIOS update, or if I have a faulty motherboard or battery sensor.
Ideally I'd like a solution to upgrade the bios without a battery that works and can resolve my problem. But if we can't find a solution, I need to know what needs to be fixed so I can repair my laptop through Dell's Out of Warranty Repair service.
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Mar 22, 2010
I am currently being offered a exchange for my 1640, and they are giving my the option to configure it.
Which is better? And how do i know which is the 1645 and 1647 on the website?
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Feb 8, 2010
for 130 Watt Adapter and update to the latest BIOS
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May 27, 2010
I've decided to get an xps 16 for college, and I am curious as to which to get. I plan on using it for college, but also plan on playing quite a few games on it as well when I have the time. Which would be better overall to avoid throttling issues, and just have the best performance for this overall?
On a side note, on the dell site, how do I tell which is a 1640, 1645, and 1647?
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Mar 6, 2010
I'm trying to decide between the two though I lean towards the 1645. I'm also open to any of the doubters trying to argue for something else altogether.
I'm a gamer and a relative power user, but I don't fret benchmarks and I don't mind if I get some throttling after a few hours of gaming so long as the issue will go away once I quit to desktop and give the comp 15 minutes to cool down.
I'm also not chasing every last bit of graphical detail or processor power. If two years from now I can still play new games on modest graphical settings with an acceptable frame rate, and if my desktop experience is crisp and responsive .....
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Feb 25, 2010
Please note that my GPU Throttles down when it hits 84C. This cycle will continue up and down as the system system downclocks the GPU.
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Feb 16, 2010
Been following all the throttling issues on these forums religiously for a while now. I have been eyeing these laptops since they came out. Looking for some opinions on what I should buy. The "business" reps are trying to sell me a Precision but that price point is really high.
Primary uses will be:
Software and Database Design and Development -- mainly C++, .NET technologies (WCF, WPF, C#, etc), Silverlight, Sharepoint, Expression Blend, SQL Server (not express). I will be installing the entire development environments and tools that come with these. Also MS Office Enterprise.
Other occasional uses:
Movies (getting BR for sure), some gaming (not hard core like most here) and other regular day-to-day tasks (surfing, etc.)
With above said, should I get the i7 620, 720 or 820? I can get the RGBLED with the 620 but not the 720 or 620 -- is the RGBLED worth it -- don't mind spending the $$ for it -- or is the WLED just fine (even for BR movies)? Also, I am definitely getting the SSD for speed.
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Feb 17, 2010
So yes I have no cred and I am relatively new but I think we can all agree the direction of the heat vent on the XPS 16XX series needs to be changed to face downwards at least, so that the heat isn't dicipated directly onto the screen!
There doesn't seem anywhere available to add a secondary vent, so at least the primary vent needs to be improved.
I will send this to Dell_Bill_B as he requested in the throttling forum, and he said he would take this issue up at the next conference call!
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May 5, 2010
Looked around here but could not find the answer. Are there actual hardware differences between the 1645 and 1647 xps studio 16? Just curious if the 1645 can handle the next gen procs (i5, i7 Arrandale cores). Also can the bios for a 1647 be used on the 1645?
I got forced a 1645 in a system replacment and they would not do a 1647 even after they said they would and I pushed HARD on my end. I now wonder really what the hardware differneces are if any?? Also want to know if this thing will allow future upgrades as to the cpu past the Clarksfield cores it runs now?
Also mine did not come with the SB x-fi software. Is this worth asking for or obtaining?
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Apr 23, 2010
I was giving my 1645 a nice cleaning when I noticed a depression on the left hand side palm corner. The black of the palm rest actually sinks below the the silver trimming. Is this normal? is it supposed to be flush? Does it mean I need yet ANOTHER part replaced on this damn laptop?
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Feb 17, 2010
I recently returned my 1645 after 2 months of struggling with random crashing and throttling back to Dell for a full refund.
I am in need of a new system and was considering HP Envy 15 as an alternative, but I still like the 1645 given that it performs as advertised.
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Nov 19, 2009
A new bios update was released today for the XPS 1645 which apparently enhance sound quality. Thats the only thing listed in the release notes anyways.
I installed it on mine, but haven't noticed a difference as of yet.
http://support.dell.com/support/down...&fileid=364341
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May 7, 2010
I have a dell 1749 with I7 and the ATI graphics card and loved it till today when I applied the recommended A04 version bios update.
It stopped at 69 out of 70 in the install process for over an hour and then I had a brick!
Dell have agreed to replace the unit as it is less than a month old and totally fried, it wont even get to the dell logo stage which means you can't revert to the previous bios.
It may have been that it was already faulty but I would be very wary of updating the bios at this time.
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May 22, 2010
This was released at the same time as A09 for 1645, why is nobody talking about it? Does it remove the 84 degree gpu limit like A09 does?
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Feb 9, 2010
I have just ordered a XPS 1647 & was unsure if I should download all the Bios from the DELL website when I get it. There is currently the A00 & the A01, do I download both or just the latest release
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May 11, 2009
i really like the way NBR team reviews verious things and users post their thoughts and experiencs.
my issue is with my dell studio 1535 which has 4gb ram, 8100 intel c2duo and 250 gb hdd (wd). i bought it on august last year. so there is only 3 months left on warranty.
the hdd recently giving problem. in win vista a yellow icon blinking in the system tray showing a msg "a hard drive in the system showing that it may fail". i chk in linux if the msg is really need to be resolved, i get this .....
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Feb 18, 2010
so, this has happened twice. Last time I didn't now when it happened as I was not using the laptop for anything.
But just right now, I was listening to music on it and it just shutdown in the middle of all that. Nothing else being done on it.
Any ideas?
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Jan 15, 2015
The pop-up window reads:
"WARNING! Please boot this Recovery Disc using legacy BIOS mode"
Please boot this Recovery Disc using legacy BIOS mode"
when I switch it to Legacy BIOS, then the pop-up window reads:
"WARNING! Please boot this Recovery Disc using UEFI BIOS mode"
I have tried secure boot enabled and disabled.
What do I do to restore my computer? I don't have Recovery on my PC. It was lost with the WIN8.1 upgrade.
Acer Aspire v5-571p
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Mar 9, 2010
I'm getting this next month (or the order says I am), and I have a couple questions reading this forum:
1. I'm getting an i7 Quad Core -720, that's still a 1647 right? I keep reading that the 640 is what that goes up to, but am not sure.
2. What is throttling? I do a search on the internet and all I get is Drag Racing info Is that when the fan starts to spin super hard?
3. I've got a 1640 that I'm selling once I get it....it's new from Dell because of an exchange so no warranty (but can be upgraded by the buyer), what do you think is a fair asking price? It's a P8700 2.53 Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM 320GB HD, 512MB ATI 3670. HD screen, etc.
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Dec 3, 2009
I've been starting to see more references about Studio XPS 1647 here and on Dell's site, but I couldn't figure out what distinguishes this model from the others (1640 & 1645).
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Jul 7, 2009
if you own a dell studio xps 1340 and either subscribe to computrace lojack for laptops, or it came bundled with your computer , you might want to know that either the bios agent in this computer is either missing or actually broken.
when activating computrace in the bios, it is actually doing nothing.
some time ago i upgraded to wirdows vista utiltmate from home premium . this is when my laptop stopped contacting the monitoring center for 30 days.
i reinstalled computrace and started contacting the center.
when i called absolute.com for support. they informed me that although the m1330 has the bios agent, they say that the xps 1340 is not on thier list of supported machines.
i opened up my dell xps 1340 and put in a spare sata drive and wiped it, and used the windows vista cd that came with the computer and installed vista .....
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Mar 10, 2013
I have a studio 1537 with the Ati graphics.
The problem i have is when i power on the laptop i get a warning saying Hit F1 Critical battery warning .
So i hit F1. Then get the option to hit F1 to continue or F2 to enter setup as battery cannot be identified.
So i hit F2 so in the bios i see not battery and it says NO charger detected.
Now my problem is the battery is totally flat if i pull the PSU the system dies . I have changes the power jack as i read the could give trouble.
What I could do next as other than this my machine is perfect. Just a note i also have two spare batterys one 6 cell and one 9 cell and still neither charge
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Feb 16, 2010
is the alienware m15x experiencing throttling and heat problems like the 1647/1645?
i say this because i could get a m15x i7 4GRAM for $1734 1G Nvidia GTX 260M via dell rep .....
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Mar 7, 2010
http://en.community.dell.com/forums/t/19315633.aspx
http://en.community.dell.com/forums/t/19313005.aspx
studio 17 fan problems
2nd description:
http://en.community.dell.com/forums/t/19321860.aspx
I've tried to collect all the info I can. Please add as you seem fit.
Recently returned a dell 1745 due to bad fan control. While idling the fan would rew up to max each 3-5 minutes easily detectable by speedfan (see the last link). The core temperatures would slowly ("") increase to around 38 degrees when the fan starts at horrendous pace for ~10-15 seconds and cool the cores to sub-30 degrees and the whole show starts again. This is a showstopper and noone should really by these products.
It is as though the cpu fan only has two paces. Silent and Noisy. There shoudl of course be some kind of gradient in the fan speeds at different temepratures but his has not been implemented though very easy for BIOS coders to do so. The fan vigorously tries to cool the cpu to 30 degrees each time it hits ~40 degress - we're talking intel cpus that could easily go to 60-70 degrees without fuzz.
While idling any laptop should keep a constant temperature - the current lineup of inspirons and studios (at least 1564, 1745, 1747 an 1749) cannot achieve this and unleashes fan hell very often.
Untill fixed (which dell seems very reluctant to) don't buy dell. It's simply not worth it.
This have nothing to do with throtteling. And don't even get me started on doing something "cpu intensive" like browing.
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