I'm trying to decide between the two though I lean towards the 1645. I'm also open to any of the doubters trying to argue for something else altogether.
I'm a gamer and a relative power user, but I don't fret benchmarks and I don't mind if I get some throttling after a few hours of gaming so long as the issue will go away once I quit to desktop and give the comp 15 minutes to cool down.
I'm also not chasing every last bit of graphical detail or processor power. If two years from now I can still play new games on modest graphical settings with an acceptable frame rate, and if my desktop experience is crisp and responsive .....
I've decided to get an xps 16 for college, and I am curious as to which to get. I plan on using it for college, but also plan on playing quite a few games on it as well when I have the time. Which would be better overall to avoid throttling issues, and just have the best performance for this overall?
On a side note, on the dell site, how do I tell which is a 1640, 1645, and 1647?
Been following all the throttling issues on these forums religiously for a while now. I have been eyeing these laptops since they came out. Looking for some opinions on what I should buy. The "business" reps are trying to sell me a Precision but that price point is really high.
Primary uses will be:
Software and Database Design and Development -- mainly C++, .NET technologies (WCF, WPF, C#, etc), Silverlight, Sharepoint, Expression Blend, SQL Server (not express). I will be installing the entire development environments and tools that come with these. Also MS Office Enterprise.
Other occasional uses:
Movies (getting BR for sure), some gaming (not hard core like most here) and other regular day-to-day tasks (surfing, etc.)
With above said, should I get the i7 620, 720 or 820? I can get the RGBLED with the 620 but not the 720 or 620 -- is the RGBLED worth it -- don't mind spending the $$ for it -- or is the WLED just fine (even for BR movies)? Also, I am definitely getting the SSD for speed.
So yes I have no cred and I am relatively new but I think we can all agree the direction of the heat vent on the XPS 16XX series needs to be changed to face downwards at least, so that the heat isn't dicipated directly onto the screen!
There doesn't seem anywhere available to add a secondary vent, so at least the primary vent needs to be improved.
I will send this to Dell_Bill_B as he requested in the throttling forum, and he said he would take this issue up at the next conference call!
Looked around here but could not find the answer. Are there actual hardware differences between the 1645 and 1647 xps studio 16? Just curious if the 1645 can handle the next gen procs (i5, i7 Arrandale cores). Also can the bios for a 1647 be used on the 1645?
I got forced a 1645 in a system replacment and they would not do a 1647 even after they said they would and I pushed HARD on my end. I now wonder really what the hardware differneces are if any?? Also want to know if this thing will allow future upgrades as to the cpu past the Clarksfield cores it runs now?
Also mine did not come with the SB x-fi software. Is this worth asking for or obtaining?
I was giving my 1645 a nice cleaning when I noticed a depression on the left hand side palm corner. The black of the palm rest actually sinks below the the silver trimming. Is this normal? is it supposed to be flush? Does it mean I need yet ANOTHER part replaced on this damn laptop?
I am one of the many people here who has a defective Studio XPS 1645 (random crashing and throttling issues). I was promissed a replacement system by a tech support supervisor and Studio XPS 1647 was mentioned by him as a replacement for the 1645 system which will fix all outstanding issues (as claimed by him). I don't have a detailed system configuration yet and will post as soon as I recieve one.
I just don't want to be a beta tester for Dell once again if 1647 proves to have design flaws like the 1645.
Does anyone out there have 1647 yet? Is this an upgrade to 1645 (hope its not a downgrade)? Should I accept this offer or demand a full refund?
I am looking to get a Studio XPS 16 soon, but can't quite decide on which model to get and had a few questions...
1) What is the battery life of the 1647 (i5) compared to the 1645 (i7) assuming they have the same specs. I've read that i5's should last longer, but I really couldn't find anything comparing the two for these systems.
2) When configuring the 1645 and 1647 side-by-side with the same specs. The 1647 is about the same price as the 1645, if not more (depending on which processor selected). I thought the i5's were supposed to be less expensive than the i7's. Since they are about the same price, would it be better to go with the i7? Any reason to choose the i5 over i7?
I'm thinking about getting a Studio XPS 16, but I'm not sure about the processor. Is there much difference between the P8400 (3MB cache/2.26GHz/1066Mhz FSB) and the T9400 (6MB cache/2.53GHz/1066Mhz FSB).
The difference in $$ is $150 but don't know if it's worth it.
I'll be using it for some photo editing, work and college.
I'm weighing my options as I decide which notebook to go with. I really like the M4400 but it's a bit pricey (even with the sale going on now and the free screen), so I was wondering if a refurb is something to consider.
What would the warranty be like? How is it different from getting a new one besides not getting any papers/cd's, etc.?
This thing gets up to 81 degs C. Only 3 vents on the bottom and hot air blows out the back. the rear vent is actually a crappy design as it is partially blocked because the laptop has no feet for elevation.
here's a pic of the bottom borrowed from another thread. the dv7 is on the left:
I haven't a clue which way the air flows on this thing.
I'm thinking of the Zalman 2000 or the NZXT Cryo cooler series
the other problem is i use the laptop on my lap with knees up. I have to cross my legs without a cooler to keep that rear exhaust fan clear. I need a cooler that won't block that fan.
does anyone have a cooler that gives good performance with the dv7?
I've read the reviews and cooling central. not real helpful, b/c i as i said, i haven't a clue about the air flow on this.
After waiting for over a month or so, I finally got my XPS 1647 from dell. I was very keen on adding a second HDD to store bulk data and use a SSD as primary driver for OS.
Speical thanks to this specific thread, specially Nando4 for all the information.
Confidence to open your laptop
HDD Caddy to replace the Optical Disk Drive - I got one from New Mode Electronics, which sells such caddys. This specific machine uses 12.7mm (height) slot-loading model with SATA external interface. You can buy it on ebay too for a cheaper price, but most of them ship from China and takes a long time to arrive.. and if there is a problem..its a nightmare to return or re-order. A second HDD
Dell Service Manual for Studio XPS 16 series - Specially how to replace the Optical Drive
Here is the Pictorial :
Click on each of the image below to see a larger image (in a new window)
Step 01 - Ready to Dismantle the Laptop
Step 02 - Remove the Back cover (10 screws to remove)
Step 03 - Remove the Rear caps (slide, and pull out as described in the dell service manual). Don't apply force.
Step 04 - Remove 14 screws (this is needed to remove the palm rest). On my system 10 screws were marked "P", 2 were marked "K" and 2 were flat screws.
Step 05 - Turn over, and remove the two screws to remove the palm rest. (Point to remember - once you are done, and when you tighten this later, don't tighten it too much, else the plastic under it would crack). Once the two screws are removed, use the two tabs to pull out the palm rest (as described in the service manual)
Step 06 - Disconnect the cables connected (by lifting the tab - again - its described very well in the service manual).
Step 07 - Remove the cables connected (two of them). Now the palm rest is free & the motherboard and the ODD is visible
Step 08 - View of the mother board and ODD
Step 09 - View of the mother board and the 3 screws that need to be removed to free the OOD
Step 10 - One screw at the back to remove the ODD. Point to note - the HDD caddy did not have this screw hole - but the HDD Caddy fits in place securely with other 3 screws.
Step 11 - the ODD is now free - You can see the inter-poser (SATA to the motherboard pins) - simply pull it out from the ODD to set it free.
Step 11a - View of ODD out of the system
Step 12 - The ODD and the HDD Caddy that I got from New Mode Electronics. There is a component that is used on the ODD to secure it to the motherboard - This needs to be removed (2 screws) and put on the new HDD caddy as shown in this image.
Step 13 - View of ODD, Securing Component, Interposer, and the HDD Caddy - all side by side.
Step 14 - The new HDD caddy with the 500 GB Seagate HDD (that came with my system), interposer and the securing component
Step 15 - Plug in the HDD caddy in the system and fasten the screws. From this point, its just a reverse process of putting things back in place (palm rest, screws, rear caps and the back cover)
Step 16 - BIOS - now shows the second HDD !
Step 17 - Window Shows the second HDD!
Total time taken from start to finish (including taking photos..etc) - 60 mins!
So, there you go.. you now have a second HDD in your XPS 1647..
I've been stalking the XPS 1645/1647 for a while now hoping that the overheating/under clocking issues get resolved. I'm to the point now where I just need to roll the dice and make one of these work for me.
Currently I work off of a Mac Book Pro (latest unibody) with the 3.06 GHz processor upgrade and the 256 SSD upgrade and 4GB RAM. I do primarily web design (.NET, WordPress, etc.), so I stay in Windows (via Bootcamp) most of the time or work on my Sony Vaio Z. I was waiting for the Bootcamp upgrade to come out in hopes that it would help the hardware cope with Win7 better. Well, it came out a couple of days ago, and it did help, but it's still lacking in a few ways.
My question is around the processor. My everyday activities, making up 80% of my day, are fairly light with the exception of Adobe Creative Suite apps and Microsoft Visual Studio, but I do a decent amount of video processing. I am looking for the most power available without sacrificing battery life. If I understand the processor options correctly, that would be the i7-620M. How would that processor compare to the i5 540M in terms of speed and battery life? I have read that the i5 is "newer technology" and "should" be more efficient than the i7's.
I'm getting this next month (or the order says I am), and I have a couple questions reading this forum:
1. I'm getting an i7 Quad Core -720, that's still a 1647 right? I keep reading that the 640 is what that goes up to, but am not sure.
2. What is throttling? I do a search on the internet and all I get is Drag Racing info Is that when the fan starts to spin super hard?
3. I've got a 1640 that I'm selling once I get it....it's new from Dell because of an exchange so no warranty (but can be upgraded by the buyer), what do you think is a fair asking price? It's a P8700 2.53 Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM 320GB HD, 512MB ATI 3670. HD screen, etc.
I just got my 1647 in yesterday and it's been a struggle of immense proportions. I have a MSDN subscription, so I ordered it with Win7 Home and reformatted it when it got here to install Win7 Pro. I have finally got all of the yellow exclamation marks gone from the Device Manager, but I don't have any Bluetooth connectivity.
I could have sworn I checked that box during the build, but I can't find it in any of my documentation. What's worse, when I go back to the Dell EPP site, I don't even see the Bluetooth module listed as an option when trying to build another one. Could this mean that it isn't available on XPS's configured on the EPP system?
I do see the Bluetooth radio listed in the BIOS to be turned on by the wireless switch, but the light never comes on, on the front of the machine when turning wireless on and off. I'm taking that as a bad sign.
I'm pretty disappointed since the whole reason I bought this computer was for photo editing and the RGB Led screen was just perfect. But the Dell rep tells me that they are no longer offering that screen and that they will be sending me a 15.6 inch WLED.
They are still checking with the dispatch people to make sure that they aren't shipping the RGB Led, but I was wondering what my options were? I'm tempted to ask Dell to give me the Studio 17 instead, since it seems to be one of the last Dell computers to offer the RGB Led.