Dell :: 1640 Vs 1647
Mar 17, 2010So I have a 1640 with a t9900 3.06ghz processor being replaced with a 1647 i5 540M processor. Does the t9900 outperform the i5 540M?
On notebookcheck.com the i5 540M is rated lower than the t9900.
So I have a 1640 with a t9900 3.06ghz processor being replaced with a 1647 i5 540M processor. Does the t9900 outperform the i5 540M?
On notebookcheck.com the i5 540M is rated lower than the t9900.
I've decided to get an xps 16 for college, and I am curious as to which to get. I plan on using it for college, but also plan on playing quite a few games on it as well when I have the time. Which would be better overall to avoid throttling issues, and just have the best performance for this overall?
On a side note, on the dell site, how do I tell which is a 1640, 1645, and 1647?
I am planning to get a new laptop within the next few weeks. My main purpose of use with the new laptop is Photography, so Image quality is paramount!!! I have been browsing through this forum and researched with good reviews about the dell studio 16 rgb led screen. Now problem is each model 1640,1645,1647 has it main problem of issues ranging from extreme heat,constant freezing,lock up,fan noise and the most noticeable throttling issues.
I dont plan to use the laptop to it's absoloute abilities...so hardly any gaming will be involved, just mainly phtography software and occasional movie watching. So overall which model has the less problems for what I will be using this laptop for?
My only criteria is I want the rgb led screen. Is the 1640 good enough?(is there a big peformance difference in Photo editing between a 1640,1645?
I write this thread as I dont want to spend time chasing up dell for parts,complaints and constant searching on threads for solutions! Or should I just get away from delll all together and get a Sony Vaio F series or AW? btw which screen is better Sony AW rgb screen or Dell xps 16 rgb led.
Please note that my GPU Throttles down when it hits 84C. This cycle will continue up and down as the system system downclocks the GPU.
View 10 Replies View RelatedSo yes I have no cred and I am relatively new but I think we can all agree the direction of the heat vent on the XPS 16XX series needs to be changed to face downwards at least, so that the heat isn't dicipated directly onto the screen!
There doesn't seem anywhere available to add a secondary vent, so at least the primary vent needs to be improved.
I will send this to Dell_Bill_B as he requested in the throttling forum, and he said he would take this issue up at the next conference call!
After waiting for over a month or so, I finally got my XPS 1647 from dell. I was very keen on adding a second HDD to store bulk data and use a SSD as primary driver for OS.
Speical thanks to this specific thread, specially Nando4 for all the information.
Pre-Requisites:
Confidence to open your laptop
HDD Caddy to replace the Optical Disk Drive - I got one from New Mode Electronics, which sells such caddys. This specific machine uses 12.7mm (height) slot-loading model with SATA external interface. You can buy it on ebay too for a cheaper price, but most of them ship from China and takes a long time to arrive.. and if there is a problem..its a nightmare to return or re-order.
A second HDD
Dell Service Manual for Studio XPS 16 series - Specially how to replace the Optical Drive
Here is the Pictorial :
Click on each of the image below to see a larger image (in a new window)
Step 01 - Ready to Dismantle the Laptop
Step 02 - Remove the Back cover (10 screws to remove)
Step 03 - Remove the Rear caps (slide, and pull out as described in the dell service manual). Don't apply force.
Step 04 - Remove 14 screws (this is needed to remove the palm rest). On my system 10 screws were marked "P", 2 were marked "K" and 2 were flat screws.
Step 05 - Turn over, and remove the two screws to remove the palm rest. (Point to remember - once you are done, and when you tighten this later, don't tighten it too much, else the plastic under it would crack). Once the two screws are removed, use the two tabs to pull out the palm rest (as described in the service manual)
Step 06 - Disconnect the cables connected (by lifting the tab - again - its described very well in the service manual).
Step 07 - Remove the cables connected (two of them). Now the palm rest is free & the motherboard and the ODD is visible
Step 08 - View of the mother board and ODD
Step 09 - View of the mother board and the 3 screws that need to be removed to free the OOD
Step 10 - One screw at the back to remove the ODD. Point to note - the HDD caddy did not have this screw hole - but the HDD Caddy fits in place securely with other 3 screws.
Step 11 - the ODD is now free - You can see the inter-poser (SATA to the motherboard pins) - simply pull it out from the ODD to set it free.
Step 11a - View of ODD out of the system
Step 12 - The ODD and the HDD Caddy that I got from New Mode Electronics. There is a component that is used on the ODD to secure it to the motherboard - This needs to be removed (2 screws) and put on the new HDD caddy as shown in this image.
Step 13 - View of ODD, Securing Component, Interposer, and the HDD Caddy - all side by side.
Step 14 - The new HDD caddy with the 500 GB Seagate HDD (that came with my system), interposer and the securing component
Step 15 - Plug in the HDD caddy in the system and fasten the screws. From this point, its just a reverse process of putting things back in place (palm rest, screws, rear caps and the back cover)
Step 16 - BIOS - now shows the second HDD !
Step 17 - Window Shows the second HDD!
Total time taken from start to finish (including taking photos..etc) - 60 mins!
So, there you go.. you now have a second HDD in your XPS 1647..
I've been stalking the XPS 1645/1647 for a while now hoping that the overheating/under clocking issues get resolved. I'm to the point now where I just need to roll the dice and make one of these work for me.
Currently I work off of a Mac Book Pro (latest unibody) with the 3.06 GHz processor upgrade and the 256 SSD upgrade and 4GB RAM. I do primarily web design (.NET, WordPress, etc.), so I stay in Windows (via Bootcamp) most of the time or work on my Sony Vaio Z. I was waiting for the Bootcamp upgrade to come out in hopes that it would help the hardware cope with Win7 better. Well, it came out a couple of days ago, and it did help, but it's still lacking in a few ways.
My question is around the processor. My everyday activities, making up 80% of my day, are fairly light with the exception of Adobe Creative Suite apps and Microsoft Visual Studio, but I do a decent amount of video processing. I am looking for the most power available without sacrificing battery life. If I understand the processor options correctly, that would be the i7-620M. How would that processor compare to the i5 540M in terms of speed and battery life? I have read that the i5 is "newer technology" and "should" be more efficient than the i7's.
This was released at the same time as A09 for 1645, why is nobody talking about it? Does it remove the 84 degree gpu limit like A09 does?
View 10 Replies View RelatedI ended up choosing the Studio XPS 1647
It should be shipped in a week or two, and I was wondering what recommendations you all had for it. I plan on reformatting it to get rid of all the bloatware and also undervolting it.
I'll use it as a desktop replacement and occasionally play some games on it (probably nothing too demanding though). So any suggestions on what to do to start off right and keep it healthy?
I'm getting this next month (or the order says I am), and I have a couple questions reading this forum:
1. I'm getting an i7 Quad Core -720, that's still a 1647 right? I keep reading that the 640 is what that goes up to, but am not sure.
2. What is throttling? I do a search on the internet and all I get is Drag Racing info Is that when the fan starts to spin super hard?
3. I've got a 1640 that I'm selling once I get it....it's new from Dell because of an exchange so no warranty (but can be upgraded by the buyer), what do you think is a fair asking price? It's a P8700 2.53 Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM 320GB HD, 512MB ATI 3670. HD screen, etc.
I just got my 1647 in yesterday and it's been a struggle of immense proportions. I have a MSDN subscription, so I ordered it with Win7 Home and reformatted it when it got here to install Win7 Pro. I have finally got all of the yellow exclamation marks gone from the Device Manager, but I don't have any Bluetooth connectivity.
I could have sworn I checked that box during the build, but I can't find it in any of my documentation. What's worse, when I go back to the Dell EPP site, I don't even see the Bluetooth module listed as an option when trying to build another one. Could this mean that it isn't available on XPS's configured on the EPP system?
I do see the Bluetooth radio listed in the BIOS to be turned on by the wireless switch, but the light never comes on, on the front of the machine when turning wireless on and off. I'm taking that as a bad sign.
I am currently being offered a exchange for my 1640, and they are giving my the option to configure it.
Which is better? And how do i know which is the 1645 and 1647 on the website?
I have just ordered a XPS 1647 & was unsure if I should download all the Bios from the DELL website when I get it. There is currently the A00 & the A01, do I download both or just the latest release
View 3 Replies View RelatedI've been starting to see more references about Studio XPS 1647 here and on Dell's site, but I couldn't figure out what distinguishes this model from the others (1640 & 1645).
View 10 Replies View RelatedI'm pretty disappointed since the whole reason I bought this computer was for photo editing and the RGB Led screen was just perfect. But the Dell rep tells me that they are no longer offering that screen and that they will be sending me a 15.6 inch WLED.
They are still checking with the dispatch people to make sure that they aren't shipping the RGB Led, but I was wondering what my options were? I'm tempted to ask Dell to give me the Studio 17 instead, since it seems to be one of the last Dell computers to offer the RGB Led.
for 130 Watt Adapter and update to the latest BIOS
View 10 Replies View RelatedI installed dell webcam central in the hopes that would update the driver, but although the webcam central SW works, the driver has not been updated in device manager. It still says the MS Integrated Webcam 6.1.7600.16385.
What do other people who have no problems with their webcam see under device manager for their imaging device, and where did you find the driver?
I seem to be having an issue with playing DVDs on my SXPS 1647. I have the Blu-ray combo drive (HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD CA10N, with firmware A109).
Every few minutes you can hear and feel the drive start clicking. When this happens, the playback starts stuttering for a few seconds. This doesn't seem to be an issue when playing Blu-rays.
The drive still clicks every few minutes, but the playback doesn't stutter. Is this normal that the drive should be clicking every few minutes? I checked to see if there was a newer firmware version, but the latest version on Dell's site was A108.
is the alienware m15x experiencing throttling and heat problems like the 1647/1645?
i say this because i could get a m15x i7 4GRAM for $1734 1G Nvidia GTX 260M via dell rep .....
I just bought an SXPS 1647 (I believe... I have the core i5-540 processor) and I wanted to know how the throttling issue effects these models.
Is it less of an issue because the i5's are less power hungry?
Has there been any response from dell about the throttling on this model? Are people requesting the 130Watt adaptor?
System:
i5-540
4GB RAM
128GB SSD
RGBLED 1080p Screen
I'm trying to decide between the two though I lean towards the 1645. I'm also open to any of the doubters trying to argue for something else altogether.
I'm a gamer and a relative power user, but I don't fret benchmarks and I don't mind if I get some throttling after a few hours of gaming so long as the issue will go away once I quit to desktop and give the comp 15 minutes to cool down.
I'm also not chasing every last bit of graphical detail or processor power. If two years from now I can still play new games on modest graphical settings with an acceptable frame rate, and if my desktop experience is crisp and responsive .....
I have a can of compressed air I'll be using to dust off my laptop.
How do I go about cleaning it? Do I just spray air into the vents or...?
I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on ways to lower the temp of my XPS 1647
View 10 Replies View RelatedIm thinking about picking up this bad boy but I dont want to get caught like I did with my Inspiron 1520 when I bought it 3 years ago (I bought it and then 3 days later they bought out the 1525 which was 20% lighter etc).
Also i've heard lots of things regarding XPS machines running very hot, is it very bad? Or is it one of those things that are just blown out of proportion?
That was after playing 25 minutes of Starcraft 2 Beta. I know SC2 is more CPU intensive so it's understandable that the CPU gets pretty hot, but is 82C too hot? That's the hottest I've seen it. My GPU was only 73C.
If it matters, the CPU is an i5-430M and I'm also using the Logitech N100 cooling pad (which doesn't really seem to help since the fan is just blowing at the metal cover rather than into the vents).
Would updating my BIOS make it run cooler? I just got the laptop about a week ago and I'm not entirely sure how to go about updating the BIOS.
When I logon to Win7 it hangs at 'welcome' for quite a while, then goes to desktop and has the loading cursor while my desktop icons load, then my antivirus loads.
It isn't crazy slow, it is just a lot slower than my M1530 which was instant. Am I just noticing the difference between my 5400rpm drive and my old 7200rpm drive? Is it a significant difference? I will be poppin in another WD Scorpio Black
My 1647 came in yesterday. I was pumped to finally have it.
As soon as I pulled up IE I noticed a very distinct yellow tint to every color displayed on the screen. This is very annoying and I'm not getting used to it at all. The difference between this display and my Mac Book Pro is unbelievable. The colors on the MacBook are better in every way. I'm very disappointed in the display. I had hoped it was going to blow me away, but instead I'm very underwhelmed.
Has anyone else noticed this on their RGBLED display? I've seen it mentioned on other models on this forum, but no mention on other 1645/1647's.
I currently have the Studio XPS 1645. My uses for the machine are client visits, presentations, and occasionally gaming on the road.
I probably only log 5 hours a week on the laptop 3 weeks a month and 30 or so in the other week (when I am not at home).
I have read about the throttling issue and this is my last day to return. So knowing my usage pattern. Would you keep the quad core or change out for the 1647.
ftp://ftp.dell.com/bios/1647_A05.exe
ftp://ftp.dell.com/bios/1645_A08.exe
Is the 1647 the new replacement for the 1645?
Can anyone confirm it does NOT have the power problems?
Here's what I'm contemplating - opinions accepted.
Only thing ticking me off is no Blu-ray option available until 4th week of Jan.
224-6716 1 Studio XPS 16 Notebook
317-2361 1 Intel CoreTM i7-720QM (1.6 - 2.8 GHz 6M/8 threads)
317-2364 1 4GB, DDR3, 1333MHz 2 Dimm
320-8330 1 15.6 inch Wide Screen 16:9 1080p Full HD WLED LCD, W/2.0 MP, XPS 1645
421-1010 1 Dell Webcam Central v1.4
421-0188 1 Facial Recognition
320-8350 1 ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4670 1GB
330-5460 1 DELL RESOURCE DVD,BACK-UP,XPS 1645
341-8989 1 500GB 7200RPM Free Fall SensorSeagate Hard Drive
320-8351 1 Obsidian Black High Gloss Finish
421-1737 1 Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
421-0323 1 Windows Live Search,Multiple User Interface
420-6576 1 DELL WELCOME,Software Dimension/Inspiron
420-9100 1 Dell Dock Consumer
420-6436 1 PC-Restore, Dim/Insp
421-0187 1 Dell Support Center Software 64 Bit 2.0
420-7938 1 Dell Connect 2.1
421-0092 1 DELL-DOWNLOAD-FLAG .....