Acer :: 1410 SU2300 Vs My SU3500
Nov 12, 2009
I have till Friday to exchange my Acer Aspire 1410 SU 3500 for the SU2300. I am seeing some people show the benchmark is much higher for the SU2300. Of course I would like to have the faster unit and better unit since I am spending $400. I dont do much gaming but I do alot of videos and work. am I better getting the Dual Core or just keeping my Single Core ?
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Nov 3, 2009
I bought the Acer 1410 with the single core SU3500 Core 2 Solo CPU. It looks like Acer decided to release them with the SU2300 now, which is dual core at 1.2GHz (compared with 1.4GHz of SU3500).
Does anyone have any benchmarks comparing the two, and/or if they have a solid understanding how much better it would perform compared with the SU3500? I also see that the single core AS1410 with Celeron M @ 1.3GHz sells at the same price as the dual core.
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Feb 23, 2010
After getting my new 1410, I was interested in finding out just how much a hard drive and RAM upgrade would help. I have a 1410 SU2300 which came with 2 1GB DDR2 Dual Channel 667 Mhz 5-5-5-15 RAM modules and a 160GB Western Digital Scorpio Blue. I made a list of fairly well known benchmarks, and ran them with various configurations using upgraded RAM (2 2GB DDR2 Dual Channel 800 Mhz 6-6-6-18 Corsair) and HDD (320GB Seagate Momentus 7200.4).
For testing, I wiped the drive, installed Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, and applied all the tweaks in the 1410 thread, including installing BatteryBar, RMClock, and a few programs of my own like Office 2007 and Dropbox along with the latest drivers for every component and all of the latest MS updates. Then, I installed the following programs for benchmarking:
PCMark Vantage x64 Professional - Overall performance indicator, provides scores for various areas of computer usage. Instead of running synthetic benchmarks, it runs scripts using standard Windows programs like Media Player and Internet explorer. Accurate and popular with repeatable results; probably my favorite benchmark.
PCMark Vantage x86 Professional - Same as x64 version, shown for 32 bit comparison – can only address 3.5gb of the 4.0 installed
Passmark Performance Test 7 – Synthetic overall benchmark, could not be completely run due to directX issues. Not very repeatable or accurate, I personally dislike it.
IOMeter – Hard drive benchmark, sends repeated IO requests and measures operations completed per second in various configurations. Reasonably repeatable, very accurate, much better at providing an overall performance indicator then synthetic sequential readwrite HDD benchmarks.
Everest Ultimate – Memory, CPU, and HDD benchmarking options. Not very repeatable or reliable.
Geekbench x86 – Memory & CPU benchmark. Somewhat repeatable, fairly inaccurate.
Geekbench x64 - Same as x86 version, allows for comparison between x86x64.
Crystal Disk Mark – HDD benchmarking program using various file sizes. Results given in MBs. Very accurate and repeatable, my favorite sequential readwrite testing program. Used 9 pass 1GB file settings.
3dMark 06 (3dMark Vantage couldn’t run) – 3d graphicsCPU benchmarking program. Repeatable, reliable, accepted standard.
HD Tune Pro – HDD benchmark, requires a non-window partition for write tests. Fairly repeatable and reliable, another ‘staple’ benchmark......................
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Oct 22, 2009
I'm torn between the 13.3 and the 11.6. How do these two stack up in terms of processing power.
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Intel Pentium SU2700 1.3GHz / 4GB RAM / 320GB Hard Drive / Intel GMA 4500MHD Graphics / 802.11N Wireless / Webcam / Vista Home Premium 64-Bit
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Intel Celeron 1.2GHz SU2300 / 2GB RAM / 160GB Hard Drive / Intel GMA 4500MHD / Webcam / 802.11N Wireless / HDMI / 6-Cell Battery / Windows 7 Home Premium
I think I remember reading that the SU2300 is better (or perhaps better bang for your buck) than the SU3500. I'm pretty sure the SU3500 is supposed to be better than the SU2700. So, does that make the SU2300 better when compared to the SU2700?
I'm haven't made up my mind on the 13.3" form factor, but the $499 price point seemed like a deal. Also, is the 13.3" eligible for Windows 7?
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Mar 4, 2010
I just made a purchase of a 1410 for about $340 with an Intel Core 2 Solo SU3500 and 2GB ram. I plan to do a clean of install Windows 7 32-bit once I receive the laptop.
However one thing concerns me, how does the laptop fare with online Flash video streaming? I'm thinking it will do fine with 360p and 480p streaming, but is it able to run 720p or even 1080p smoothly?
Also, is this model able to multi-task somewhat? I'm not looking for anything extreme, but I'm wondering more about running multiple tabs in a browser or running Office apps with internet surfing, etc.
If not playable out of the box, are there tweaks to get HD flash playback smooth? I've heard of the new Adobe Flash 10.1 helping out with performance somewhat, but I'm wondering if it's a long wait before a cheap (sub-$400) netbook/sub-notebook can stream HD flash well that isn't an ION with Atom.
I've heard great reviews on the 1410 and like the purchase, but was just curious about some of the performance situations stated above.
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Dec 3, 2009
trying to do the undervolting mod on my 1410 SU2300, and I can't seem to find any details on the proper multiplier/voltage for RMClock. I'm using der_mali's tutorial for undervolting, and I've found that the proper multiplier is 6x (it seems that the SU2300 only has this one). For those who have a 1410 SU2300 undervolted, what settings did you use? Any extra things I should be aware of?
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Dec 15, 2009
I've loaded my memory into another computer where the SPD could be read/written (non x64 OS) and I've tried to set the SPD on the Nanya modules to 6-5-4 to 400Mhz. I also copied the config of a DDR2-800 Nanya module that exactly matches the part number of what's installed in our system, but after clicking write, I reboot and have the same memory timings..
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Aug 10, 2009
I am looking into the SU3500 Timeline and was wondering if anyone could tell me how it would perform against a ML-32 processor, as I actually have a old presario laptop with that processor and would be interested in if it was faster or slower than that.
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Jul 10, 2009
I'm looking at getting the Timeline 4810t with either the SU2700 or SU3500. Can anyone tell me any discernible differences I'll find between the two? Right now I'm looking at about an $80 difference between the two (also 1gb more ram with the SU3500).
Also, fyi this laptop will be for law school so it won't be very task intensive besides internet research, word processing, onenote etc.
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Nov 24, 2009
if it's possible?
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Oct 3, 2009
Just got my new notebook and registered successfully for the win 7 upgrade.
I notice that the machine has 4GB RAM so it surely makes more sense to install Win 7 64 bit...? Anyway I have two other copies of the full version of Win 7 on pre-order for our home desktops which come with both 32 and 64 bit versions.
One of our desktops is generally used for office tasks so could I use the Win 7 32 bit upgrade intended for my Acer Timeline for that and do a fresh install of one of my full Win 7 home premiums on my new Acer Timeline?
Basically, is the upgrade locked to the associated Acer laptop?
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Sep 8, 2009
1) SU3500 + ATI HD 4330 better than SU9400?
My usage would be web surfing, office apps, music/movie playback, 0 gaming.
I tend to multitask, open many tabs when browsing, plus run several apps at one-go etc.
2) Can I easily replace the HDD with a SSD and will it support the 2.5inch SLC ones?
3) Are there official 9 cell batts for this model out yet?
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Jul 31, 2009
Did anyone manage to overclock the SU3500?
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Jan 16, 2010
I'm looking to buy a 14" Acer Timeline. They come in 2 variants at my place, the SU3500 and SU7300 processor. Which is better? I'm not really a gamer. I'm just looking for a smooth multi tasking, web and word processor experience.
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Aug 15, 2009
Update: problem has been solved by using Windows 7 and Windows Media player 12.
This clip causes 100% CPU load on my 1810T. It seems to play smooth though.
Is there anyone that can play it with lower CPU load and good image quality?
If so, what is your setup?
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Jul 28, 2009
i looked online i couldn't find an comparison between :
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor SU9400 vs Intel Core 2 Solo SU3500.
i am trying to buy my first acer computer and i am deliberate between the timeline 14" with one of this cpu .
i was wondering what would bee the different between the 2.
they have the some system bus 800mhz and the some clock speed 1.4Ghz, the only different is between 1 core or 2 .
price different would be from 579$ (staples spacial) with su3500 to 919$ (only from Canada) with su9400.
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Mar 11, 2010
I bought an Acer 1410 with default OS of Windows XP. Now I want to install a new Windows. Which windows is better for a good battery performance
Windows 7
Windows Server 2000
Windows Vista SP2
and one more question. Acer 1410 works with x64 or x86 OS?
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Nov 14, 2009
In August I purchased an Acer 751h, 2GB RAM and 250GB HD. It came with Vista, which was pretty awful, but since I installed Win7 on it, I don't want to put it down because it performs so well. It's BLAZING fast, a great little machine and I absolutely love it.
My mother needs a new computer and she really likes mine. I'm considering giving it to her and getting myself the new 1410 - what do you think? Does the new processor in the 1410 make that big a performance difference?
In the benchmarks I've read, even the single core version (apparently there is also a dual-core 1410) is twice to three times as fast as the Atom in my 751 - that's pretty impressive.
I can only imagine that the 1410 with a clean install of Win7 would absolutely FLY. It would also be nice to have the different touchpad buttons and wireless N.
What do you guys think of the 1410?
Also, is it worth it to get the dual core model over the single core?
Also to confirm, the 1410 has VGA-out AND HDMI? This would save me from buying an adapter for when I need to give presentations, as most projectors are VGA-only.
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Dec 1, 2009
I just had a blue screen of death (dump screen) for the third time in 2 months and after reboot, i get this screen:
What can i do now? I would like to recover the files i have in the HDD, as i know if i send this to Acer, they'll wipe out everything or replace a new HDD. Can i open the laptop and try to plug the HDD to some enclosure to get the files out?
Will that void the warranty?
In the BIOS, i see:
HDD Model Name: None
HDD Serial Number:
ATAPI Model Name: None
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Feb 24, 2010
My 1410 has a problem with the display out function. It works fine with both the HDMI and VGA output when the lid is open. However, when I close the lid, the display is okay for a couple of seconds then it flashes on and off intermittently on the display that I hooked it up to. It happens with both the VGA and HDMI output signal. It only happens when the lid is closed, even though I set the computer the do nothing when the lid is closed. I thought it might be a software/driver issue, but I installed the most recent chipset and VGA drivers from the acer website with no change. This is an important feature for me to have because I use the computer with an external display the majority of the time. I am running windows 7 home premium 64bit. Their tech support has told me that Acer computers are set to not work with an external display when the lid is closed.
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Sep 23, 2009
I have a Gateway EC1803h which as far as I can tell is identical to the Acer 1410 except for the design of the case, so I'd like to ask this to the Acer users since there are many more with the 1410 than the Gateway.
I'm running Windows Vista. I've disabled the ACPI Lid driver by changing the driver to "Volume Manager" as suggested by various internet sources for fixing the problem where closing the lid, even with the close lid action set to "do nothing" can cause the lcd to not turn on again when opening the lid.
So the problem is with hibernation. If I hibernate the machine, then resume again within let's say a minute or so, it comes back up fine. If I hibernate, then wait a longer amount of time, say 10 minutes, I can see the BIOS boot, the "Resuming Windows" splash screen, but then when I'd expect to see the login screen, instead the laptop screen turns off, and I see nothing. Oddly enough, at this point, if I plug in an external monitor, I can see the login screen there, so the OS is running properly. I can even log in. But at this point, I cannot Fn+F5 to enable the laptop screen. It's like the laptop screen has been disconnected/disabled/removed, whatever you want to call it.
Another weird symptom is that at this point, I can usually see a "System" process that ends up taking up 100% of the CPU processing, all of the time (not just spikes), so the task manager basically stays at 100%.
This feels like a software/driver issue to me, but I've been unable to find any other Acer 1410 or Gateway EC1803h users who've experienced this. I've tried the video drivers on the Gateway site, Acer site, as well as drivers from the Intel site. Same behaviour. I'm contemplating exchanging it for another unit, but only if there's a chance this is indeed a hardware malfunction.
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Oct 1, 2009
I know this laptop was not designed for games and that's not it's primary purpose for me. However, I just wanted to see if we could have a list of the games that are confirmed to work on the Acer 1410.
I'll start. I tried Civilization 4. Works perfectly.
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Aug 18, 2009
Looking to pick up a laptop/netbook very soon and I am pretty much sold on going with the 3810TZ but now I am seeing a lot of talk about the 1410, which unless I am mistaken, is lighter than the 3810TZ, smaller, faster (not by much but has a 3500 cpu vs the 2700) and cheaper (450, vs best deal I can find on 3810 which is 550). Same features/memory/etc?
Any actual knowledge of when the 1410 will be released? I need it very soon (for a trip in a few weeks) and i cant tell from reading these forums if it will be out then or not until october.....
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Sep 18, 2009
Is it possible to install an internal bluetooth? is so what is the product called?
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Jan 21, 2010
I Cant get 5.1 DTS spdif audio on my Windows 7 64 bit 1410 Acer laptop using ac3 with toslink into receiver. I'm hoping my laptop supports surround sound output but I fear it may not. I downloaded the full AC3 version since I'm using 64 bit OS. Under config speakers with windows media center I setup 5.1 speakers and clicked test and I did get a specific sound to all my speakers through my receiver. Also when I click speaker icon on bottom right of screen to get realtek digital output properties/ supported formats - I click test sound for DTS and I also get a separate ping to my 5 speakers. Under realtek advanced tab however I notice default format is limited to two channel.
Under ac3 filter config main tab I set speakers to 5.1 and checked use spdif. Under spdif tab I checked use spdif output format to 5.1. spdif passthrough I checked DTS and AC3. Under spdif/DTS mode I tried all 3 settings- auto/padded/wrapped. I'm only getting 2 channel digital audio. I think AC3 is not working right because while playing a DTS movie I don't see a AC3 icon on system tray and when I turn on ac3 config while still watching movie, SPDIF status says No data and I don't see any green spike bars for audio levals. Do I need to force AC3 to work somehow? Do I need a different mediaplayer to use as a front end? Or do I need additional software/ codecs like hailsplitter or something?
My AC3 must be working a little bit because before I downloaded AC3 mkv's would refuse to play at all. I have divx 7 by the way for video support of mkv's. I noticed even after I downloaded divx 7 for mkv support mkv's still wouldn't play without AC3. I'm using windows media player and windows media center for movies.
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Nov 14, 2009
As you know the default OS of Acer 1410 is Windows XP, and the battery life is about 6 hours; if I install Windows Vista or Windows 7, how much it will affect my battery life?
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Nov 21, 2009
I have an old Sony Vaio VGN-FS742/W and just got an Acer Aspire 1410. The 1410 has a 2GB PC2-5300 (333 MHz) stick of RAM. The Vaio has a 1GB stick of PC2-4300 (266MHz) RAM.
I've read that running two RAM sticks of different speeds makes them both run at the speed of the slowest stick. Could any advise whether my 1410's performance would be better by adding the 1GB from the Vaio to have 3GB RAM running at 266MHz, or just keep the 2GB already in the Acer running at the quicker 333MHz?
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Feb 24, 2010
I'de need a pic of the mobo of a 1410/1810 after the TME mod for overclocking...
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Nov 16, 2009
I just bought an AS1410 SOLO last month and yesterday it would not boot up at all. Called Acer tech support and they said send in for the warranty work on the notebook.
The thing is I have to pay for the shipping and to send in their defective product. Is it Acer policy? If it is then it sucks. I have a ThinkPad T43p and when I needed to send it in for warranty work, Lenovo sent me a prepaid box and all I have to do is drop the box off at any UPS store. I forgot to mention that the tech support personnel, their attitude are like I don't give a damn about your problem, you're already bought our product and you need our support now. So give it another thought before you buy any Acer product.
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Oct 23, 2009
I have been trying to load a retail version of Windows 7 HP x64 using USB on my Windows Vista HP x86 Acer 1410. I am able to boot from USB and the Windows 7 install program starts. I select Custom Install to do a new installation (not an upgrade). After I select the partition to install to, I get an error message like "can't find a system drive to install to..." I have tried this on two different 1410's with the same results.
It was the particular USB SD Card Reader I was using. I don't have a 4GB USB drive so I was using a USB SD Card reader and an 8GB SD card. I switch to a different Card Reader (same 8GB SD card) and it worked first time!
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