Acer :: 1410 SU2300 Benchmarks With RAM & HDD Upgrades
Feb 23, 2010
After getting my new 1410, I was interested in finding out just how much a hard drive and RAM upgrade would help. I have a 1410 SU2300 which came with 2 1GB DDR2 Dual Channel 667 Mhz 5-5-5-15 RAM modules and a 160GB Western Digital Scorpio Blue. I made a list of fairly well known benchmarks, and ran them with various configurations using upgraded RAM (2 2GB DDR2 Dual Channel 800 Mhz 6-6-6-18 Corsair) and HDD (320GB Seagate Momentus 7200.4).
For testing, I wiped the drive, installed Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, and applied all the tweaks in the 1410 thread, including installing BatteryBar, RMClock, and a few programs of my own like Office 2007 and Dropbox along with the latest drivers for every component and all of the latest MS updates. Then, I installed the following programs for benchmarking:
PCMark Vantage x64 Professional - Overall performance indicator, provides scores for various areas of computer usage. Instead of running synthetic benchmarks, it runs scripts using standard Windows programs like Media Player and Internet explorer. Accurate and popular with repeatable results; probably my favorite benchmark.
PCMark Vantage x86 Professional - Same as x64 version, shown for 32 bit comparison – can only address 3.5gb of the 4.0 installed
Passmark Performance Test 7 – Synthetic overall benchmark, could not be completely run due to directX issues. Not very repeatable or accurate, I personally dislike it.
IOMeter – Hard drive benchmark, sends repeated IO requests and measures operations completed per second in various configurations. Reasonably repeatable, very accurate, much better at providing an overall performance indicator then synthetic sequential readwrite HDD benchmarks.
Everest Ultimate – Memory, CPU, and HDD benchmarking options. Not very repeatable or reliable.
Geekbench x86 – Memory & CPU benchmark. Somewhat repeatable, fairly inaccurate.
Geekbench x64 - Same as x86 version, allows for comparison between x86x64.
Crystal Disk Mark – HDD benchmarking program using various file sizes. Results given in MBs. Very accurate and repeatable, my favorite sequential readwrite testing program. Used 9 pass 1GB file settings.
HD Tune Pro – HDD benchmark, requires a non-window partition for write tests. Fairly repeatable and reliable, another ‘staple’ benchmark......................
I bought the Acer 1410 with the single core SU3500 Core 2 Solo CPU. It looks like Acer decided to release them with the SU2300 now, which is dual core at 1.2GHz (compared with 1.4GHz of SU3500).
Does anyone have any benchmarks comparing the two, and/or if they have a solid understanding how much better it would perform compared with the SU3500? I also see that the single core AS1410 with Celeron M @ 1.3GHz sells at the same price as the dual core.
I have till Friday to exchange my Acer Aspire 1410 SU 3500 for the SU2300. I am seeing some people show the benchmark is much higher for the SU2300. Of course I would like to have the faster unit and better unit since I am spending $400. I dont do much gaming but I do alot of videos and work. am I better getting the Dual Core or just keeping my Single Core ?
I think I remember reading that the SU2300 is better (or perhaps better bang for your buck) than the SU3500. I'm pretty sure the SU3500 is supposed to be better than the SU2700. So, does that make the SU2300 better when compared to the SU2700?
I'm haven't made up my mind on the 13.3" form factor, but the $499 price point seemed like a deal. Also, is the 13.3" eligible for Windows 7?
trying to do the undervolting mod on my 1410 SU2300, and I can't seem to find any details on the proper multiplier/voltage for RMClock. I'm using der_mali's tutorial for undervolting, and I've found that the proper multiplier is 6x (it seems that the SU2300 only has this one). For those who have a 1410 SU2300 undervolted, what settings did you use? Any extra things I should be aware of?
I've loaded my memory into another computer where the SPD could be read/written (non x64 OS) and I've tried to set the SPD on the Nanya modules to 6-5-4 to 400Mhz. I also copied the config of a DDR2-800 Nanya module that exactly matches the part number of what's installed in our system, but after clicking write, I reboot and have the same memory timings..
I've been searching around, but haven't found much info on upgrading some components of the 8920...I'll have to admit that my search skills are not top notch...
I'm leaning towards the 8920-6030 model, but there's a few things I'd like changed.
Can the CPU be upgraded? I'm thinking about slapping a T9x00 in there. Maybe a T9500 instead of the T8100. I know the CPU here isn't much of a bottleneck, but I'm a nut.
Can the GPU be upgraded? I looked at the manual that was posted here on the forum, and it showed a "GPU Socket". Does that mean I can pull out the 9500M and stick something like a 8800M GTX in it's place?
1) My processor is a P7350. I want to upgrade to P9400/P8600 in the future. Can I buy these processors in the open market and install it myself? Or do I have to send it to the Acer support office? Will my warranty become void?
2) Can I use XP on the 5930G? Vista and I don't agree.
I have got a acer aspire 6930g with nvidia geforce 9300m seperate card graphics, can these be upgraded?
Also, what other upgrade options can I do for this laptop?
Also, it has bluray player, I have the right player but has started saying I do not have the correct driver to play even though it used to play them fine?
-Swapped out the original T5250 (1.5Ghz, 667Mhz bus, 2MB cache) cpu with a brand new T9500 (2.6Ghz, 800Mhz bus, 6MB cache). Cost: $229.99 shipped.
-Swapped out the original 200GB (4200rpm, 2MB buffer, SATA 1.5) hard drive with a brand new 320GB (7200rpms, 8MB buffer, SATA 3.0). Cost: $75.98 shipped.
-Swapped out the original 1GB of RAM (2 x 512MB of PC2-4200) with a new set of 4GB (2 x 2GB of PC2-6400; runs at 667Mhz due to GMA965 limit). Cost: $44.49 shipped.
-Swapped out original 802.11g Mini PCIe wifi card (Intel 3945ABG) with a new 802.11n Mini PCIe wifi card (BCM94321). Cost: $17.95 shipped.
*Experimental* -Swapped out original LCD (WXGA 1280x800 max) with a new LCD (WSXGA+ 1680 x 1050 max). Cost: ~$75 shipped..................................
I have a new(ish) Aspire 5580-6974 notebook: Core 2 Duo (T5300) 533 MHz 1GB RAM, etc.
I just bought a 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 dual channel memory kit; that should be a relatively simple upgrade.
I want to eventually upgrade the CPU to the T7600, which is 677 MHz. The intel 945GM chipset should support that, but is it just a matter of dropping in the new CPU? Or are there changes to be made on the motherboard (jumpers, etc)? There doesn't seem to be any such setting options in the BIOS.
I own an Aspire V3-571G Notebook with ArchLinux dual-booting Win8.1. When I'm starting Arch I get this (Ivybridge-/Sandybridge -related) error:
"[drm:cpt_serr_int_handler] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun"
After research I think a BIOS Update should fix the problem. But in the BIOS-section there is a confusing line: "BIOS - UEFI for Windows 8 (Not for Upgrades)"
So, does that mean: a) not for those who had Win8/8.1 pre-installed (like me) or b) not for those who have run an inplace upgrade of Win7 to Win8/8.1 instead of a clean install.
I do everything with this laptop, and I'm looking for the best way to upgrade it, bang for the buck style.
One main upgrade I would like to do is the video card. My manual says that some models come with a NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 128 MB of dedicated GDDR2 VRAM w/ Turbo Cache.
I know there is more info than needed in the Everest Stats, but hopefully nothing was left out that is pertinent to my issue.
Hopefully the right eyes will find this post and I can get the answers I need to successfully upgrade my laptop, thanks in advance for taking a look!
Here are the Everest Stats:
[ EVEREST Ultimate Edition 2006 (c) 2003-2006 Lavalys, Inc. ] Version EVEREST v3.00.630 Benchmark Module 2.0.160.0 Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail) [ Summary ] Computer: Computer Type ACPI Multiprocessor PC Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional OS Service Pack Service Pack 3 Internet Explorer 7.0.5730.13 DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c) Motherboard: CPU Type Mobile DualCore Intel Celeron M 430, 1733 MHz (13 x 133) Motherboard Name Acer Aspire 5570Z Motherboard Chipset Mobile Intel Calistoga-G i940GML System Memory 2038 MB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM) BIOS Type Phoenix (04/10/07) Display: Video Adapter Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family (224 MB) Video Adapter Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express.....
In August I purchased an Acer 751h, 2GB RAM and 250GB HD. It came with Vista, which was pretty awful, but since I installed Win7 on it, I don't want to put it down because it performs so well. It's BLAZING fast, a great little machine and I absolutely love it.
My mother needs a new computer and she really likes mine. I'm considering giving it to her and getting myself the new 1410 - what do you think? Does the new processor in the 1410 make that big a performance difference?
In the benchmarks I've read, even the single core version (apparently there is also a dual-core 1410) is twice to three times as fast as the Atom in my 751 - that's pretty impressive.
I can only imagine that the 1410 with a clean install of Win7 would absolutely FLY. It would also be nice to have the different touchpad buttons and wireless N.
What do you guys think of the 1410?
Also, is it worth it to get the dual core model over the single core?
Also to confirm, the 1410 has VGA-out AND HDMI? This would save me from buying an adapter for when I need to give presentations, as most projectors are VGA-only.
I just had a blue screen of death (dump screen) for the third time in 2 months and after reboot, i get this screen:
What can i do now? I would like to recover the files i have in the HDD, as i know if i send this to Acer, they'll wipe out everything or replace a new HDD. Can i open the laptop and try to plug the HDD to some enclosure to get the files out? Will that void the warranty?
In the BIOS, i see: HDD Model Name: None HDD Serial Number: ATAPI Model Name: None
My 1410 has a problem with the display out function. It works fine with both the HDMI and VGA output when the lid is open. However, when I close the lid, the display is okay for a couple of seconds then it flashes on and off intermittently on the display that I hooked it up to. It happens with both the VGA and HDMI output signal. It only happens when the lid is closed, even though I set the computer the do nothing when the lid is closed. I thought it might be a software/driver issue, but I installed the most recent chipset and VGA drivers from the acer website with no change. This is an important feature for me to have because I use the computer with an external display the majority of the time. I am running windows 7 home premium 64bit. Their tech support has told me that Acer computers are set to not work with an external display when the lid is closed.
I have a Gateway EC1803h which as far as I can tell is identical to the Acer 1410 except for the design of the case, so I'd like to ask this to the Acer users since there are many more with the 1410 than the Gateway.
I'm running Windows Vista. I've disabled the ACPI Lid driver by changing the driver to "Volume Manager" as suggested by various internet sources for fixing the problem where closing the lid, even with the close lid action set to "do nothing" can cause the lcd to not turn on again when opening the lid.
So the problem is with hibernation. If I hibernate the machine, then resume again within let's say a minute or so, it comes back up fine. If I hibernate, then wait a longer amount of time, say 10 minutes, I can see the BIOS boot, the "Resuming Windows" splash screen, but then when I'd expect to see the login screen, instead the laptop screen turns off, and I see nothing. Oddly enough, at this point, if I plug in an external monitor, I can see the login screen there, so the OS is running properly. I can even log in. But at this point, I cannot Fn+F5 to enable the laptop screen. It's like the laptop screen has been disconnected/disabled/removed, whatever you want to call it.
Another weird symptom is that at this point, I can usually see a "System" process that ends up taking up 100% of the CPU processing, all of the time (not just spikes), so the task manager basically stays at 100%.
This feels like a software/driver issue to me, but I've been unable to find any other Acer 1410 or Gateway EC1803h users who've experienced this. I've tried the video drivers on the Gateway site, Acer site, as well as drivers from the Intel site. Same behaviour. I'm contemplating exchanging it for another unit, but only if there's a chance this is indeed a hardware malfunction.
I know this laptop was not designed for games and that's not it's primary purpose for me. However, I just wanted to see if we could have a list of the games that are confirmed to work on the Acer 1410.
I'll start. I tried Civilization 4. Works perfectly.
Looking to pick up a laptop/netbook very soon and I am pretty much sold on going with the 3810TZ but now I am seeing a lot of talk about the 1410, which unless I am mistaken, is lighter than the 3810TZ, smaller, faster (not by much but has a 3500 cpu vs the 2700) and cheaper (450, vs best deal I can find on 3810 which is 550). Same features/memory/etc?
Any actual knowledge of when the 1410 will be released? I need it very soon (for a trip in a few weeks) and i cant tell from reading these forums if it will be out then or not until october.....
I Cant get 5.1 DTS spdif audio on my Windows 7 64 bit 1410 Acer laptop using ac3 with toslink into receiver. I'm hoping my laptop supports surround sound output but I fear it may not. I downloaded the full AC3 version since I'm using 64 bit OS. Under config speakers with windows media center I setup 5.1 speakers and clicked test and I did get a specific sound to all my speakers through my receiver. Also when I click speaker icon on bottom right of screen to get realtek digital output properties/ supported formats - I click test sound for DTS and I also get a separate ping to my 5 speakers. Under realtek advanced tab however I notice default format is limited to two channel.
Under ac3 filter config main tab I set speakers to 5.1 and checked use spdif. Under spdif tab I checked use spdif output format to 5.1. spdif passthrough I checked DTS and AC3. Under spdif/DTS mode I tried all 3 settings- auto/padded/wrapped. I'm only getting 2 channel digital audio. I think AC3 is not working right because while playing a DTS movie I don't see a AC3 icon on system tray and when I turn on ac3 config while still watching movie, SPDIF status says No data and I don't see any green spike bars for audio levals. Do I need to force AC3 to work somehow? Do I need a different mediaplayer to use as a front end? Or do I need additional software/ codecs like hailsplitter or something?
My AC3 must be working a little bit because before I downloaded AC3 mkv's would refuse to play at all. I have divx 7 by the way for video support of mkv's. I noticed even after I downloaded divx 7 for mkv support mkv's still wouldn't play without AC3. I'm using windows media player and windows media center for movies.
As you know the default OS of Acer 1410 is Windows XP, and the battery life is about 6 hours; if I install Windows Vista or Windows 7, how much it will affect my battery life?
I have an old Sony Vaio VGN-FS742/W and just got an Acer Aspire 1410. The 1410 has a 2GB PC2-5300 (333 MHz) stick of RAM. The Vaio has a 1GB stick of PC2-4300 (266MHz) RAM.
I've read that running two RAM sticks of different speeds makes them both run at the speed of the slowest stick. Could any advise whether my 1410's performance would be better by adding the 1GB from the Vaio to have 3GB RAM running at 266MHz, or just keep the 2GB already in the Acer running at the quicker 333MHz?
I just bought an AS1410 SOLO last month and yesterday it would not boot up at all. Called Acer tech support and they said send in for the warranty work on the notebook.
The thing is I have to pay for the shipping and to send in their defective product. Is it Acer policy? If it is then it sucks. I have a ThinkPad T43p and when I needed to send it in for warranty work, Lenovo sent me a prepaid box and all I have to do is drop the box off at any UPS store. I forgot to mention that the tech support personnel, their attitude are like I don't give a damn about your problem, you're already bought our product and you need our support now. So give it another thought before you buy any Acer product.
I have been trying to load a retail version of Windows 7 HP x64 using USB on my Windows Vista HP x86 Acer 1410. I am able to boot from USB and the Windows 7 install program starts. I select Custom Install to do a new installation (not an upgrade). After I select the partition to install to, I get an error message like "can't find a system drive to install to..." I have tried this on two different 1410's with the same results.
It was the particular USB SD Card Reader I was using. I don't have a 4GB USB drive so I was using a USB SD Card reader and an 8GB SD card. I switch to a different Card Reader (same 8GB SD card) and it worked first time!
I decided to give the PLL mod a try so I can overclock to 1.7GHz in my 1410. I got ahold of a soldering iron and an old motherboard that I practiced on, and it doesn't seem too bad once you get the hang of it.
Now that I've decided to go ahead, I try to take the case of my Aspire 1410 apart, and with all the screws removed, hard drive, memory, wireless card, I can pry the front of the case open ok, but as I get near the back (fan exhaust one side and lock/ethernet other) It seems locked in place somehow and don't want to break anything.
