Acer :: 3810 (w/ SU2700) Or 1410 (w/ SU2300)
Oct 22, 2009
I'm torn between the 13.3 and the 11.6. How do these two stack up in terms of processing power.
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Intel Pentium SU2700 1.3GHz / 4GB RAM / 320GB Hard Drive / Intel GMA 4500MHD Graphics / 802.11N Wireless / Webcam / Vista Home Premium 64-Bit
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Intel Celeron 1.2GHz SU2300 / 2GB RAM / 160GB Hard Drive / Intel GMA 4500MHD / Webcam / 802.11N Wireless / HDMI / 6-Cell Battery / Windows 7 Home Premium
I think I remember reading that the SU2300 is better (or perhaps better bang for your buck) than the SU3500. I'm pretty sure the SU3500 is supposed to be better than the SU2700. So, does that make the SU2300 better when compared to the SU2700?
I'm haven't made up my mind on the 13.3" form factor, but the $499 price point seemed like a deal. Also, is the 13.3" eligible for Windows 7?
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Nov 12, 2009
I have till Friday to exchange my Acer Aspire 1410 SU 3500 for the SU2300. I am seeing some people show the benchmark is much higher for the SU2300. Of course I would like to have the faster unit and better unit since I am spending $400. I dont do much gaming but I do alot of videos and work. am I better getting the Dual Core or just keeping my Single Core ?
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Feb 23, 2010
After getting my new 1410, I was interested in finding out just how much a hard drive and RAM upgrade would help. I have a 1410 SU2300 which came with 2 1GB DDR2 Dual Channel 667 Mhz 5-5-5-15 RAM modules and a 160GB Western Digital Scorpio Blue. I made a list of fairly well known benchmarks, and ran them with various configurations using upgraded RAM (2 2GB DDR2 Dual Channel 800 Mhz 6-6-6-18 Corsair) and HDD (320GB Seagate Momentus 7200.4).
For testing, I wiped the drive, installed Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, and applied all the tweaks in the 1410 thread, including installing BatteryBar, RMClock, and a few programs of my own like Office 2007 and Dropbox along with the latest drivers for every component and all of the latest MS updates. Then, I installed the following programs for benchmarking:
PCMark Vantage x64 Professional - Overall performance indicator, provides scores for various areas of computer usage. Instead of running synthetic benchmarks, it runs scripts using standard Windows programs like Media Player and Internet explorer. Accurate and popular with repeatable results; probably my favorite benchmark.
PCMark Vantage x86 Professional - Same as x64 version, shown for 32 bit comparison – can only address 3.5gb of the 4.0 installed
Passmark Performance Test 7 – Synthetic overall benchmark, could not be completely run due to directX issues. Not very repeatable or accurate, I personally dislike it.
IOMeter – Hard drive benchmark, sends repeated IO requests and measures operations completed per second in various configurations. Reasonably repeatable, very accurate, much better at providing an overall performance indicator then synthetic sequential readwrite HDD benchmarks.
Everest Ultimate – Memory, CPU, and HDD benchmarking options. Not very repeatable or reliable.
Geekbench x86 – Memory & CPU benchmark. Somewhat repeatable, fairly inaccurate.
Geekbench x64 - Same as x86 version, allows for comparison between x86x64.
Crystal Disk Mark – HDD benchmarking program using various file sizes. Results given in MBs. Very accurate and repeatable, my favorite sequential readwrite testing program. Used 9 pass 1GB file settings.
3dMark 06 (3dMark Vantage couldn’t run) – 3d graphicsCPU benchmarking program. Repeatable, reliable, accepted standard.
HD Tune Pro – HDD benchmark, requires a non-window partition for write tests. Fairly repeatable and reliable, another ‘staple’ benchmark......................
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Nov 3, 2009
I bought the Acer 1410 with the single core SU3500 Core 2 Solo CPU. It looks like Acer decided to release them with the SU2300 now, which is dual core at 1.2GHz (compared with 1.4GHz of SU3500).
Does anyone have any benchmarks comparing the two, and/or if they have a solid understanding how much better it would perform compared with the SU3500? I also see that the single core AS1410 with Celeron M @ 1.3GHz sells at the same price as the dual core.
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Jul 10, 2009
I'm looking at getting the Timeline 4810t with either the SU2700 or SU3500. Can anyone tell me any discernible differences I'll find between the two? Right now I'm looking at about an $80 difference between the two (also 1gb more ram with the SU3500).
Also, fyi this laptop will be for law school so it won't be very task intensive besides internet research, word processing, onenote etc.
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Jul 13, 2009
I notice that all reviews for this laptop are based on the SU9400 model. I'm wondering if these reviews are then accurate for the SU3500 and SU2700 models in terms of performance?
I know the SU9400 is dual-core, I'd just like to know the difference in performance between the two varieties.
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Jun 17, 2009
I've read many articles and post regarding Acer timelines with the SU2700, and i'm confused as many seem to refrence it as single core but on intels on website its listed as a dual core!
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Any one who has this CPU can confirm this?
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Dec 3, 2009
trying to do the undervolting mod on my 1410 SU2300, and I can't seem to find any details on the proper multiplier/voltage for RMClock. I'm using der_mali's tutorial for undervolting, and I've found that the proper multiplier is 6x (it seems that the SU2300 only has this one). For those who have a 1410 SU2300 undervolted, what settings did you use? Any extra things I should be aware of?
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Dec 15, 2009
I've loaded my memory into another computer where the SPD could be read/written (non x64 OS) and I've tried to set the SPD on the Nanya modules to 6-5-4 to 400Mhz. I also copied the config of a DDR2-800 Nanya module that exactly matches the part number of what's installed in our system, but after clicking write, I reboot and have the same memory timings..
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May 13, 2010
Just got my 3810 and want to do a clean install. Unfortunately Acer doesn't supply the WIN 7 OS. Which I new that but now I want to clean it up and do a fresh install. Can someone expalin how to do this? I have a memory stick. I don't feel I should pony up $20 for a disk from Acer.
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Sep 23, 2009
I am confused, a bit, which one should I go for
The processor is Su3500, RAM 2GB, 320 GB HDD for both 3810 and 4810.
3810 weighs 1.6 kg while 4810 is 1.9 kg
I like a light notebook suits my light body, but 300gm or a DVD RW drive the better
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Oct 16, 2009
Is it safe to buy this model, with the recall going and all?
I am worried about things going wrong with it. I have never owned Acer before, and I have actually heard allot of bad things about them, but this computer looks really great and uniqe.
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Mar 15, 2010
since the 3810 is really noisy with AC plugged in, I decided to buy another battery to only run it on batteries.
But I found several different models running with the 3810 so I am confused and wonder if anyone has made experiences with original/3rt party batteries and would recommend a particular one. What I found so far are
4400 mAh; 6 cells; non-original EUR 34
6600Mah; 9 cells ; non-original; EUR 42
5600mAh; ? cells; ORIGINAL; EUR 115
5600mAh, ? cells; "100% New Genuine Lithium-Ion Rechargeable Battery" EUR 37
In particular, are the 6 and nine cells akkus of equal size or how much will it exceed the laptop?
And are original batteries worth thrice the price?
The original one has only six cells right? I did not find any ORIGINAL 9 cells battery or do they not exist?
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Sep 27, 2009
I uninstalled all the extra software that this laptop came with. One problem i am having is every SECOND start up, the computers loads very slow. The next time i turn on the laptop it will load really fast and all the icons and stuff will pop up right away. Then the next time it will be slow again, windows load then only the wallpaper visible, the icons on desktop and the start bar is not there for about 2 mins.
I tried to restart and i noticed it is always on the second start up.
Also i tried to format my laptop with XP on a usb stick. When i get to the set up, it can not detected the harddrive but only the usb stick.
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Dec 4, 2009
First things first is if you have a 3810 you might want to check when it was manufactured as some have overheating microphone lead issues:
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Now that the bad bits out of the way lets move on shall we....
Link to the different configs you can get:
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Personally for the price I would go for the LX.PE602.045 version. Its about £480 and for the price it a steal. Performance wise it will cope with day to day tasks and even more resource hogging programs like Photoshop [url], yes I know its not an ACER 3810 but it uses the same Intel SU4100 CPU. As you can see its competant enough).
And the 8 hours battery life!! You can get a USB GPS receiver and use it as a Sat Nav system, with 8 hours battery life you'll be fine
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Feb 18, 2010
I have laptop acer as3810 aspire timeline, it is 13'3 inch and 4gb ram with 320 hard disk and intel core 2 solo su3500 processor, and with vista home premium and i want it vista ultimate.. so I bought vista ultimate cd with activation and all thing and I want to install it, but will it affect the 8 hours battery life, and all the programs will be deleted and in this laptop there is no dvd rom and no cd for acer programs and software.. If I will install windows vista ultimate how i will get acer webcam,acer gamezone,acer aspire as3810 pdf file,acer screensaver,acer wallpapers,acer recovery button, bluetooth, wifi, wlan wireless and the most important that when i change the volume and turn on bluetooth and the touchpad locker it make affect on the screen how i can let these effects still appeared on the screen after changing the windows vista home, are there specific software for this laptop in internet and where and how to let these effects still appeared and gained the 8hours battery life?
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Sep 26, 2009
Is it noisy? ...fans - hdd and so on
How long time does it take to boot up? or start up
Do you recommend it, for scool and such
the specs are Intel Core 2 Duo SU9400(1.40GHz) 13.3" Wide XGA 4GB Memory DDR3 1066 500GB HDD Intel GMA 4500MHD
The 14" model, does that only have solo cpu's , if so im gonna buy the 13", since it has SU9400
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Jul 28, 2009
Also same screen for travelmate 8371,8471 and 8571?
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Oct 7, 2009
Few days ago I tried to update the bios and something went wrong. Now my Timeline 5810T is piece of hi-tech scrap.
I tried many ways to recover bios with Fn+Esc tricks using CD and usb flash with sort of different filenames (BIOS.WPH, jm31x64.fd, ICL50HW.fd, ...), but i'm not happy yet.
It seems, that the old finesses doesn't work with x810 Timeline series with Insyde bios inside. After many hours with uncle Google, it seems that nobody on the planet know the right way.
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Nov 22, 2009
The Acer Timeline 3810tz is advertised to get 8+ hours of battery life. Those who have tested get about that amount while browsing the web and doing simple task, and this model contains a single core processor. I read somewhere that the Acer 3810 model with a dual core processor SU4100 get half that battery life and only goes about 4 hours.
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Mar 11, 2010
I bought an Acer 1410 with default OS of Windows XP. Now I want to install a new Windows. Which windows is better for a good battery performance
Windows 7
Windows Server 2000
Windows Vista SP2
and one more question. Acer 1410 works with x64 or x86 OS?
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Nov 14, 2009
In August I purchased an Acer 751h, 2GB RAM and 250GB HD. It came with Vista, which was pretty awful, but since I installed Win7 on it, I don't want to put it down because it performs so well. It's BLAZING fast, a great little machine and I absolutely love it.
My mother needs a new computer and she really likes mine. I'm considering giving it to her and getting myself the new 1410 - what do you think? Does the new processor in the 1410 make that big a performance difference?
In the benchmarks I've read, even the single core version (apparently there is also a dual-core 1410) is twice to three times as fast as the Atom in my 751 - that's pretty impressive.
I can only imagine that the 1410 with a clean install of Win7 would absolutely FLY. It would also be nice to have the different touchpad buttons and wireless N.
What do you guys think of the 1410?
Also, is it worth it to get the dual core model over the single core?
Also to confirm, the 1410 has VGA-out AND HDMI? This would save me from buying an adapter for when I need to give presentations, as most projectors are VGA-only.
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Dec 1, 2009
I just had a blue screen of death (dump screen) for the third time in 2 months and after reboot, i get this screen:
What can i do now? I would like to recover the files i have in the HDD, as i know if i send this to Acer, they'll wipe out everything or replace a new HDD. Can i open the laptop and try to plug the HDD to some enclosure to get the files out?
Will that void the warranty?
In the BIOS, i see:
HDD Model Name: None
HDD Serial Number:
ATAPI Model Name: None
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Feb 24, 2010
My 1410 has a problem with the display out function. It works fine with both the HDMI and VGA output when the lid is open. However, when I close the lid, the display is okay for a couple of seconds then it flashes on and off intermittently on the display that I hooked it up to. It happens with both the VGA and HDMI output signal. It only happens when the lid is closed, even though I set the computer the do nothing when the lid is closed. I thought it might be a software/driver issue, but I installed the most recent chipset and VGA drivers from the acer website with no change. This is an important feature for me to have because I use the computer with an external display the majority of the time. I am running windows 7 home premium 64bit. Their tech support has told me that Acer computers are set to not work with an external display when the lid is closed.
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Sep 23, 2009
I have a Gateway EC1803h which as far as I can tell is identical to the Acer 1410 except for the design of the case, so I'd like to ask this to the Acer users since there are many more with the 1410 than the Gateway.
I'm running Windows Vista. I've disabled the ACPI Lid driver by changing the driver to "Volume Manager" as suggested by various internet sources for fixing the problem where closing the lid, even with the close lid action set to "do nothing" can cause the lcd to not turn on again when opening the lid.
So the problem is with hibernation. If I hibernate the machine, then resume again within let's say a minute or so, it comes back up fine. If I hibernate, then wait a longer amount of time, say 10 minutes, I can see the BIOS boot, the "Resuming Windows" splash screen, but then when I'd expect to see the login screen, instead the laptop screen turns off, and I see nothing. Oddly enough, at this point, if I plug in an external monitor, I can see the login screen there, so the OS is running properly. I can even log in. But at this point, I cannot Fn+F5 to enable the laptop screen. It's like the laptop screen has been disconnected/disabled/removed, whatever you want to call it.
Another weird symptom is that at this point, I can usually see a "System" process that ends up taking up 100% of the CPU processing, all of the time (not just spikes), so the task manager basically stays at 100%.
This feels like a software/driver issue to me, but I've been unable to find any other Acer 1410 or Gateway EC1803h users who've experienced this. I've tried the video drivers on the Gateway site, Acer site, as well as drivers from the Intel site. Same behaviour. I'm contemplating exchanging it for another unit, but only if there's a chance this is indeed a hardware malfunction.
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Oct 1, 2009
I know this laptop was not designed for games and that's not it's primary purpose for me. However, I just wanted to see if we could have a list of the games that are confirmed to work on the Acer 1410.
I'll start. I tried Civilization 4. Works perfectly.
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Aug 18, 2009
Looking to pick up a laptop/netbook very soon and I am pretty much sold on going with the 3810TZ but now I am seeing a lot of talk about the 1410, which unless I am mistaken, is lighter than the 3810TZ, smaller, faster (not by much but has a 3500 cpu vs the 2700) and cheaper (450, vs best deal I can find on 3810 which is 550). Same features/memory/etc?
Any actual knowledge of when the 1410 will be released? I need it very soon (for a trip in a few weeks) and i cant tell from reading these forums if it will be out then or not until october.....
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Sep 18, 2009
Is it possible to install an internal bluetooth? is so what is the product called?
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Jan 21, 2010
I Cant get 5.1 DTS spdif audio on my Windows 7 64 bit 1410 Acer laptop using ac3 with toslink into receiver. I'm hoping my laptop supports surround sound output but I fear it may not. I downloaded the full AC3 version since I'm using 64 bit OS. Under config speakers with windows media center I setup 5.1 speakers and clicked test and I did get a specific sound to all my speakers through my receiver. Also when I click speaker icon on bottom right of screen to get realtek digital output properties/ supported formats - I click test sound for DTS and I also get a separate ping to my 5 speakers. Under realtek advanced tab however I notice default format is limited to two channel.
Under ac3 filter config main tab I set speakers to 5.1 and checked use spdif. Under spdif tab I checked use spdif output format to 5.1. spdif passthrough I checked DTS and AC3. Under spdif/DTS mode I tried all 3 settings- auto/padded/wrapped. I'm only getting 2 channel digital audio. I think AC3 is not working right because while playing a DTS movie I don't see a AC3 icon on system tray and when I turn on ac3 config while still watching movie, SPDIF status says No data and I don't see any green spike bars for audio levals. Do I need to force AC3 to work somehow? Do I need a different mediaplayer to use as a front end? Or do I need additional software/ codecs like hailsplitter or something?
My AC3 must be working a little bit because before I downloaded AC3 mkv's would refuse to play at all. I have divx 7 by the way for video support of mkv's. I noticed even after I downloaded divx 7 for mkv support mkv's still wouldn't play without AC3. I'm using windows media player and windows media center for movies.
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Nov 14, 2009
As you know the default OS of Acer 1410 is Windows XP, and the battery life is about 6 hours; if I install Windows Vista or Windows 7, how much it will affect my battery life?
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