Apple :: Defective NVIDIA 8600 GTMacBook Pro 2.2 GHz
Feb 22, 2010
Just got my refund from Apple after I spoke to them regarding the NVIDIA 8600 GT issue that has recently plagued my notebook. (It originally wouldn't boot, no chime - nothing.
So the Apple Store charged me $310.00 for the flat rate repair job. Got the notebook a few days later and found the phrase "Replaced - Graphics Processor Issue on MLB". Called them back, they opened up an investigation and issued my refund a week later.)
Anyhow, a few days after the repair, I noticed that my MacBook's fans started making a grinding sound. Granted, it was before the video card failure (and I had hoped they would fix it) but the noise seems to be more apparent after I got it back. Seems like the issue had manifested to both fans. Plus, my video card seems to be running hotter than usual.
I'm getting 74° C just by browsing the web. I did some research and I guess this is somewhat normal for the video card, but it doesn't seem real encouraging. I also notice a faint smell coming from the ventilation gap on the back of the computer. I don't want to say it's the smell of burning plastic, but it's somewhere around that range. Not sure how to describe it.
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Sep 26, 2008
I am getting service on my xps m1530 to get my 8600m gt replaced... I have heard about all of the issues nvidia is having with these and am wondering if I am going to get another bad one that will have to be replaced again or will get one that is fixed?
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Jan 31, 2010
I'd like to know if anyone sent their notebook in for repair because of the defective Nvidia GPU problem? What was your experience, how many repairs, did Dell replace the defective parts with the same and did anyone get a replacement?
I've got the Vostro 1400 and I'm headed down that road. Would like to hear how it went for anyone with any of the other affected models also.
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Dec 31, 2008
I understand that sometimes mistakes are made and early versions of products are less reliable, but Nvidia seem to know exactly what the problem with the 8600 is but make no attempt to fix it...
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Mar 1, 2009
I'm considering purchasing a Lattitude E6400 with the Nvidia 160M card, but I've read about Nvidia's problems with mobile chip failures cause of bad bump materials.
Does anyone know if the problem is fixed for the 160M or are those cards prone to failure as well?
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Nov 10, 2009
I have a dell xpsm1330 and the video card i have is the invidia 8400 video card. this is the problematic video card much talked about already.
dell had since replaced, under warranty, my video card and the attached motherboard twice already.
i was told by the technician that the new invidia video card has a model / reference no. 686 631 A2. The old defective vid card has model no. 686 630 A2.
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Dec 25, 2008
Nvidia apparently has a solution to the problems faced by many in their notebooks powered by GeForce 8M series, that is, to encourage the OEM/ODMs to buy their new problem free chips. Of course, this doesn't solve the issues faced by current users and there won't be any replacement for them.
Nvidia has come out with a new GPU called NB8E-SET which is essentially NB8E-SE with the new underfill. NB8E-SE is used on many notebooks most commonly advertised as GeForce 8700M GT, GeForce 8800M GS or GeForce 9650M GS. NB8E-SET (G84-751) uses the new Hitachi underfill and is clocked at 625MHz core and 128-bit 800MHz GDDR2/3 memories similar to the current NB8E-SE.
Here's a note from Nvidia to their partners :
NVIDIA is committed to providing our customers with quality products that push the edge of technology and also continuously improve product quality and reliability. To help improve the product quality and ensure smooth and uninterrupted product supply during the current “end stage” of life cycle, NVIDIA strongly recommends that customers transition to this latest revision of the NB8E-SET GPUs as soon as possible. These latest revision units utilize “Hitachi” underfill packaging material that improves product quality and enhances operating life by improved thermal cycling reliability.
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Nov 6, 2009
I recently installed Windows 7 Professional 64bit onto my UK Z21WN. Having first flashed the BIOS to R2170M3 I installed all drivers including the NVIDIA driver 8.16.11.8735.
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Sep 1, 2009
if my video card is capable of supporting dual monitors. I was hoping to avoid buying a converter because money is tight but I dual monitors is a necessity for my situation now. I have an inspiron 1720 by the way if that matters.
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Feb 11, 2009
I have a Acer Aspire 5920G (Vista Home with SP1) laptop which I use for general purposes as well as occasional DVDs and a little games.
With the kind help from members of this forum I upgraded the RAM from 2GB to 4GB a couple of months ago but of course my 32bit Vista only uses 3GB which leaves 1GB unused. The laptop's processor is a T7300 at 2.00GHz.
Its NVIDIA GeForce 8600 M GT graphics card (with latest driver installed) seems to work quite well but a friend who I occasionally game with said I could go into the BIOS and allocate the unused 1GB of RAM to the card which will improve its performance.
I googled this to check but the articles I read (with my limited technical knowledge!!) seemed to say that allocating extra RAM in the BIOS does not work with dedicated cards and attempts to do so could in fact reduce performance.
I would be very grateful if an expert in this excellent forum who is knowledgeable about graphics cards could please clarify the situation for me.
Basically can I go into the BIOS to increase the card's RAM allocation to improve performance as my friend suggested or is this a waste of time and/or dangerous ?
Looking at the NVIDIA system info, I see that it says Total Available Graphics is 1535MB but dedicated video memory is 256MB. Does this support what my friend says or is it unrelated ?
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Sep 25, 2008
i have laptop Acer 5920G
VGA card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
but its performance very bad and i cant believe its up 2 1024
i barely can play FIFA 2007 and its slow!
is it up 2 VGA driver?
setup icon details say it's version is 9.1.0.429
is their any new drivers 4 it .........
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Sep 25, 2009
Ordered a 160GB G2R5 SSD to replace the 500GB 5400rpm drive in my 15" MBP and received the drive yesterday. Opened up the MBP, removed the 500GB and put in the 160GB Intel SSD. The SL installation started fine, I used the disk utility and formatted the drive (MacOS extended (journaled)) and the installation began...
When the bar was almost at the end (said 10 min remaining), a big yellow exclamation point icon appeared on the screen and said "OS installation encountered an error, please contact the software manufacturer (something along these lines)". I was surprised of course...
I re-started the machine, initiated the SL installation again, started disk utility and it took about 10 minutes (spinning beach ball) to detect the Intel drive. Once it did, I formatted it again and initiated the installation. This time, the installer quit a lot earlier (about 25% in) with the same message.
Thinking that this could be a SL related issue, I popped in the Leopard DVD and started Disk Utility. The drive was detected immediately, but it showed up as "8MB Intel SSD". I tried formatting, etc, but it never reverted back from that 8MB stage. It was detected as an 8MB drive with the SL installation DVD as well....
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Jun 20, 2009
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I had a similar issue with my new 13 MBP. The screen appeared yellowish, almist unsaturated colors and lower in contrast. I had a 9C9E screen version. Compared to the white macbook and imac that I have, the screen was brilliant, but something off with the colors. So I made a genius bar appointment. The "genius" told me that LCD's are all different and there is variation amongst them (i believe that is acceptable to a degree).
Apple products however are highly QC'ed. So this guy tried to sell me a 129.99 dollar calibrator to fix my problem. I kindly took him to 2 floor model pieces, and compared them to my MBP. And mine was the only one different. I was promptly given a replacement MBP, no questions asked. Now I have a 9C9F version and it is PERFECT!. I can truly make out the increased contrast, increased gamut of colors compared to my older macs.
So if you guys have issues go to the apple store. Don't let a genius make a fool out of you by selling you some more hardware.
I did try to calibrate the screen before I took it in with Super Cal... just something seemed off.
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Exact same problem as this fellow here. My 9C9E seems extremely orange/yellow warm, and the colors are definitely not as saturated as I was expecting when comparing to my calibrated 24" panel......
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May 21, 2010
a lot of times when i let the magsafe get magnetically attracted to the port, it aligns crookedly (the side-butt round part of it sticking up a little bit) and I gotta push my thumb down to align it in place, flush with the machine edge. I can also do this and it will land straight but not if I'm being sloppy and careless with the magnetic attraction -- more so than the other 3 unibody MacBook Pro's I've had with the same macbook air charger). Do you think the cable is defective, it stills seems to be doing it with my computer. Tried it on my buddy's classic MacBook Pro (the magsafe adapter) and it does the same thing. Also, tried the classic adapter on mine and it has the same fit as on his. So I don't think it's my port, I think the cable is either defective or just more strongly magnetized and needs to be corrected with a push or something.
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Jul 2, 2009
I have the 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo MBP. I think that it might be one of the models affected by that NVIDIA defect that was reported a few months ago. I've had it for over a year and don't have the extended warranty. The computer is thankfully working fine right now but I'm wondering if any of you guys know how Apple has been dealing with this issue and if they will fix out of warranty MBP's that show up with this particular problem - free of charge.
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Apr 9, 2009
Any one still experience the blackout problem when playing games in Windows? Is the problem fixed after updating the firmware to the latest one. Just want to make sure this is not a hardware issue cos I am buying a macbook pro very soon.
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Sep 2, 2009
Where can I get the best drivers for the 9600m GT? I downloaded the drivers for the GeForce 9m series off nvidia.com but they don't recognize my hardware. Could somebody point me in the right direction? Oh and I'm running Windows 7 64-Bit.
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Apr 20, 2009
I have a 1.5 yr old macbook pro 15", 2.4ghz, 160gb hd, 2 gb ram... The video card burned out.. everything else is great...
If I buy this for cheap, can I possibly head to an Apple store, and get it repaired for free?
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Apr 4, 2009
I tried downloading the latest Nvidia notebook drivers for x64 and installing on vista x64 and i get this error message
"The Nvidia Setup program could not locate any drivers that are compatible with your current hardware. Setup will now exit."
my macbook has a Nvidia 9400m
How do i install the latest nvidia drivers on my macbook. the ones that came with my are from 12/24/08 (driver ver 7.15.11.7753). And im trying to install 179.48_notebook_winvista_64bit_beta.exe.
can unpack the driver exe and force and update through device manager?
has anyone done that before? or is there another way to get updated nvidia drivers to work on my macbook.
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May 18, 2009
this might've been asked but do the new unibody macbook/macbook pro gpu's (9400m, 9600m gt) have the same problems in manufacturing that caused higher than normal gpu chip failures in the last generation of nvidia gpu's (8-series)?
i've heard so much bad press about those chips but i'm not sure if nvidia has fixed the issue with their current 9-series chips.
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May 27, 2009
I'm planning on making the switch to a Mac but I don't need a new notebook till Q3 09/Q1 2010. I know the next major hardware refresh is coming soon and I want a Macbook to last through uni but I don't know Apples sales strategies.
My main concern is the integrated graphics that the MB may come with when it is refreshed. What I wanted to ask is if anyone knows the likelihood that Apple will drop NVIDIA and go back to Intel.
Because if that was to be the case, I might as well buy one now (or once SL is released) because i'd rather have a Centrino 2 based MB w/ NVIDIAs iGPU then go back to Intel (harsh, i know... but it's the truth).
Even with all the benefits the Calpella chipset/Westmere CPU would bring i.e. USB 3.0, SATA-III, Bluetooth 3.0, native SSD support, removal of FSB, integrated memory controller, DDR3-1600, improved wireless tech (w/ finalized 802.11n spec), lower power consumption, 32nm Nehalem.
Man I wish Apple would stick with NVIDIA for their next platform. NVIDIA has greater compatibility than anyone else and I know for a fact that the integrated graphics that will come with Arrandale are just a higher clocked 4500MHD so it will still be a lot weaker then even todays Macbook offering (9400m) which is like taking two steps back.
Would be frickin AWESOME if we could get Calpella with a variant of Arrandale without its integrated graphics core. Instead, couple it with a 40/32nm shrink of the current 9400m based on the G300 architecture.............
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Dec 9, 2008
when i play games like need for speed undercover, left 4 dead, and gta 4, at first it goes smooth with good framerates, then after several minutes.. it suddenly lags like hell... the framerate drops to 10 frames per min or more depending on the game.... then after several minutes again, it goes back to a decent frame rate.. then again it lags after several minutes,
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Apr 2, 2009
I have a base UMP and I went through the basic steps of upgrading video drivers - uninstall, reboot, install new...
However, when I did this process, the install portion would barf. It would say something like "can't find hardware" or "not the right driver"... something along those lines.
Should I just install the latest from NVIDIA without uninstalling first?
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Jun 17, 2009
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any chance that apple will put some of the new graphics cards in the macbooks/macbook pros?
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Apr 13, 2010
Can the New Mac's NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M equal in performance as compared to the mobile 9800GTX ? or is the 330M worst off ? what actually is the 330M's performance like ?
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Feb 11, 2009
I know that the modded INFs from laptopvideo2go have supported this, but the latest beta drivers released today from nVidia actually support the 9400M out of the box.
These drivers support the screen brightness controls (I had probs with this using the modded drivers) AND more importantly I can now use an external monitor and resume from sleep mode. The Apple drivers would not resume after the video card turned the external monitor off.
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Aug 7, 2009
I just sold my old black macbook on eBay. Lo and behold, an opportunity presents itself in the form of the Aluminum Macbook in the NBR Marketplace.
Anyway, how does the 9400m compare to the 9300ms that is in the Asus N10J?
I already have a Clevo laptop for gaming, this would strictly be for ultaportability and perhaps some gaming while on the road for clients.
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May 13, 2009
I updated to 10.5.7 and it runs quite well however I noticed a flaw of video flashing and I wanted to confirm this with others. In Stacks I use the Applications folder in list view. I have a long list of applications so I always have to scroll to go through all of them. When I use two finger scrolling to zip through them I see flashes of video artifacts while two finger scrolling. This only happens when you have enough apps in list view to require scrolling to see them all. For example, with no windows open I click the Applications folder and begin rapidly two finger scrolling through list view and I can see artifacts of the desktop flashing within the list view box. Anyone else notice this after the update? I have already reformatted and installed nothing but my basic apps and still see this.
Apple mentioned that they updated the Nvidia drivers for the unibody Macs. I have a Macbook Air.
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Feb 3, 2009
The bottom plastic was developing a series of cracks so I bought a new base on eBay.
I basically had to take the entire laptop apart (per the 8600 Service Manual, including video card and processor cooling fan, etc) and I put it back together with a new base...
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