I know a few of you have 8800GTX SLI setups right now. What kind of temps do those cards hit under a heavy load such as Crysis? Are any of you overclocking them yet? How many fans does the M1730 have, and how loud are they on high speed?
View 15 RepliesI could grab one with the 8700's and then swap in the 8800's SLI.
Would I need to have an 8700 SLI setup to move to an 8800 SLI setup?
Are there any caveats about going from one to the other? Any additional hardware needed besides the cards themselves?
Is there a part # so that I can see what I'm probably going to have to spend for the 8800 cards?
about the possibility for an 8800 GTS video upgrade for the 1700/1720.
View 12 Replies View Relatedare the 9800 much much better than the 8800s?
i have had some nasty over heating problems with my 8800s recently and they are offering to replace my graphics cards with new or refurbed 8800s,
im pretty good at arguing the toss and reckon i can blag an upgrade to the 9800s, just wondered how much of an improvement they are
So I am seeing that you can purchase the M1730 with this card for $1699. This seems kinda cheap to me, definately waaay cheaper than the sli 8800gtx setup was
View 5 Replies View RelatedRegarding the NVIDIA 8800, I would suggest that we all call and e-mail Dell and hope that pestering them enough will result in an answer. I myself am in the middle of wanting to purchase a new gaming laptop, and I don't really like the look of the new Alienware, so I'm sticking with the idea of purchasing a 1730. But the fact that I will be paying over $4,000 for a new gaming laptop with GPU's that are already outdated (and by a significant margin judging by the 8800 benchmarks) does bug me a bit.
I've contacted Dell by e-mail/chat and I get the usual "I don't know anything" answer but the interesting part is that the a few of the techs I spoke with said that other people have brought up the 8800 issue as well. I've also called and spoke with a sales guy who told me he doesn't think the 1730 will EVER be able to have the 8800 because they have to custom fit it to the motherboard and that will take months and months and by that time another GPU will probably be out which may not even fit into the 1730 and all that.
But again who knows and he may have just been trying to make a sale...but the point is that someone who is interested in, or already owns, the 1730 is not a parent shopping for a computer for their kid. A person who has come across the 1730 is an advanced user and savvy enough to know that the 8700's in there are already outdated. So if Dell begins to see that they are receiving returns/cancellations and calls/e-mails about the 8800 issue, and they are smart enough to know their target audience for the 1730, I'm sure they will give us some answer as to when (if) the 8800 will be available for the 1730 and what the deal is in regard to a possible upgrade path.
I got my new M1730 this week, and after bedding it down, and making sure it seems fine, I ran a 3Dmark2006, and got 9728, which seemed a little low, given what I've seen on reivews,
and benchmark sites, for a 8800 512 GTX SLi setup, even if I do have a T8100 in it.
In the US, the M1330 already has the LED backlit and the penryn for some time now. Yet the 1530 is just sitting there...
Other manufacturers have began offering newer GPUs than the 8600, but still nothing from dell on their 15.4".
They teased us with the addition of the 1530 under the "XPS Gaming Laptop" header, but its exactly the same as the regular one.
i've got dual 8700's, but was wondering if it was possible to sell those, and get a single 8800gtx. i'm assuming it would give better peformance than what i'm getting now.
View 9 Replies View RelatedI have m1730 with dual 8800 gtx. Had it over a year now and have had no problems with it. Now all a sudden when I enable SLI it gives me a blue screen. The problem is with nvlddmkm.sys. I'v tried different drivers and nothing has fixed this. I googled and looked for similar problems but nobody seems to have any fixes. Also most problems I found on google are when running games. My machine won't even boot up in SLI mode with the original driver. With the newer drivers after i accept changes seems like windows is attempting to load the second card then i get the blue screen.
View 10 Replies View RelatedJust got off the phone with a tech guy at DELL XPS, I was asking about the upgrade path, and the 8800M cards, and timescales for release.
The guy says they have an engineering problem at the moment, and are "Unable to make the cards function correctly with the CPU" (for what reason I didnt ask) He did mention "proportional speeds" - so im assuming he means something about bus speeds but im not sure..and that "They have no immediate plans to release this card in this laptop".
He might well be feeding me rubbish just to try and get a sale, but does anyone have any contacts at Dell that can confirm or even deny this is true?
I was hoping that they would come out with the new card in the unit before or around xmas - seems (if this is anything close to the truth) that this is unlikely from what he said...
if anything currently selling could match pefrormance of DELL`s updated line ...just check out the new m1730 config with dual GTXs
Hope to see benchmarks soon and some instant savings, DELL
I'm assuming they are going to equip the XPS 1730 w/ the 8800 GTX but where will the 8800 GTS go? Will that be in the XPS 1710 or jump all the way down to the Inspiron 1720? I also think XPS will mirror Alienware to save on costs.
my guess:
XPS 1730 8800 GTX
XPS 1710 removed from lineup (outdated form factor)
XPS 1715 8800 GTX (new 15in version of the 1730)
Inspiron 1720 8800 GTS
Inspiron 1520 8600 GT
You look at the wattage of the desktop versions of the cards and its insane. 165 watts for the 8800 gtx. [url]
the 7xxx cards didn't drain anywhere close to that much, the 78xx around 90watts peak and the 79xx 80watts.[url]
Nvidia and ATI have both been criticized for their lack of performance per watt in their dx10 cards over any previous generation, and its seems to be directly turning around in the mobile market.
It seems they can try and severely limit the stream processors (32 in 8700m gt compared to 128 in 8800gtx) and the memory bandwidth to compensate on a technology that is just built on power consumption.
And of course, even if notebooks can give that much AC power, the problem of heat still remains. People may be waiting for nothing, at least not in the near future until the next round of nvidia cards are released (maybe the jump from 88xx to 89xx will provide much more power savings than 78xx to 79xx) and allow dx10 tech to truly hit the mobile market.
corrected 8700m gt processors
problem with my 8800 GTX in my XPS 1730...
Within Vista, both cards show up with a yellow exclamaton and a error code 43
I tried installing drivers off the dell website and then using Nvidia Reference drivers. No luck...
Re-Installed vista fresh- same problem...
Installed Windows 7 w/ Refernce Nvidia drivers - Same problem.
THEN..I installed Windows XP Pro SP3 with Dell website drivers and everything is working fine. Ran 3dmark, no crashes...
is this a software problem or hardware? Why would my 8800 work in XP but not Vista or Win 7? Has anyone heard of this problem? My 1730 is out of warranty so calling dell isnt an option.
or is the dell support service just pulling my leg?? laptop is screwed and i have and engineer coming out to me on tuesday to replace
the motherboard, heatsink and 8800's.. he said there is a shortage at the moment but they will be in stock by the end of the month
anyone has managed to get an upgrade (free or otherwise) out of Dell to change their 8700 for 8800?
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i threw my 2 cents in. benchmarked my m1710 with 7900gtx in the thread.
my FRAPS result is near the same as what the 8800 got @ 1280x1024...
maybe diff @ higher res? or better drivers?
The LCD is bright and clear when viewed head-on, but the slightest change in vertical angle causes the brightness and colors to vary like mad, making the system unbearable to use on my lap.
I tried to figure out who made this particular LCD, but the intel graphics driver makes it hard to get the EDID info.
The only thing that sort of worked was MonInfo:
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm
And that only worked by getting the raw data string from the EDID structure, which indicates the LCD is part number "NU412.
Do you think your card is outdated? Are you having any problems playing any games with it? I'm not asking about the hottest new title games, there are few computers that can play those anyway.
View 8 Replies View RelatedI'm about to pull the trigger on either the 13 or the 16. It's really come down to how well the above to games run for you (those are the two that have me hooked at the moment, so i'll be familiar with how I'm used to it performing compared to your settings).
I'm currently on an Asus G2S-A1 thats overheating like crazy. Time to upgrade. It's specs: 2.2Ghz core 2, 4gb ram, 5400rpm hdd, 8600m-gt 256.
Will the XPS13 with a 2.66ghz, 4gb ram, 7200rpm hdd, and the N10-M 512mb gpu perform equal or better then what I'm currently on? I ask because I'm having trouble finding a comparable benchmark.
This wont be my primary gaming rig, it will be portable entertainment. BUT it does need to be able to run on par with what i have or better to entertain me Should I be happy with the 13 or do you think the 16 would be better. The only reason I'd go with teh 16 is for the Radeon 4670 1gb if the 13 has problems with wow and L4D.
If you play WoW or L4D on the 13 (or even the 16) I would GREATLY appreciate the peace of mind i would get from hearing back what your FPS are and what detail/quality settings you're getting them at.
I'm considering undervolting my Studio XPS 13 that is arriving tomorrow due to the well-known heat issues of that laptop.
I was just wondering if anyone with other Dell laptops (or the Studio XPS 13 ) have undervolted, and if they've run into any problems and how they like it now.
all m170 owners out there.. what is the latest game that you have played on your system and how good does it play? the last game i had bought and played with mine is warhammer dark crusade.. haven't been gaming for awhile and interested in buying a very good game..
View 15 Replies View Relatedi have a overheating issue with my note and i am kind of desperate about it...
I am trying to eliminate the problem right now.. And i am thinking about the fans.
Now i wanna know if the situation is the same with you m1710 owners.
When i (using fangui) put both fans on full speed i am mostly hearing the one on the left (the one close to the cpu), and the second fan is actually pretty quiet...
Is this true with your notes too ?
Or are they making the same amount of noise?
My impression is that the right fan is a lower power fan or something, maybe that's my problem ?
do any software programs (notebook hardware control comes to mind) recognize your additional multiplers? Say if you boot up from bios with it set to 2.33ghz, does nhc automatically recognize the additional multipliers allowing control to 3ghz+ etc?
The reason I'm wondering is that if it does, it may be the case that even without bios support the t7600G may be able to be overclocked on 1705s (I don't believe anyone has modded the 1710 bios to work in the 1705s, right?) ... although the utility may be small because t7600gs are only available through dell right...just some pondering
I have an M1710 with a T2600 @ 2.16GHz and looking to possibly upgrade.
My questions are:
1. What have you upgraded to & how much did it cost?
2. Is there list of possible CPU upgrades for the M1710?
3. Where does my processor lie in that list?
4. Is there room for A LOT of speed improvement? Marginal?
5. Is it easy & is there a "how to" somewhere?
Is the heat overly blown out of proportion with just the 9400m(no SLI)? Is it significantly more than a m1330 with a X3100?
What is the average battery life you get with no gaming(surfing, YouTube, music, word)?
Is the vent going to pose a problem if used on a bed or non-flat surface?
Have the Latency issues been fixed with the audio completely? I've read mixed reports.
I'm thinking about this because Dell offered me a system exchange for my m1330(T7500,LED,Intel X3100,250GB) and said I would be given a SXPS 13 since m1330 is no longer being shipped.
I got a XPS m1330 with an LED screen. On low brightness, I can see dark spots across the bottom of the screen.
They are usually visible on a white background, like in "My Computer" window. So, I had my screen replaced and today the tech came out and put in a new LED. I am still having the same issue, so I am wondering if they are all like this.
I could not see a thread for us with the budget range Inspirons so thought I should make a thread, and if a mod can make it official.
Anyone got the 1564 here?
Mine is due to be delivered by 4th March hopefully and current status is in production.
I just got my 1700 back from a temporary 3 month stint with my brother (his PC died and I decided to let him borrow it until something came along to replace the dead desktop.
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