Dell :: We'll Never See A 8800 Decent Performer Anytime Soon
Jul 15, 2007
You look at the wattage of the desktop versions of the cards and its insane. 165 watts for the 8800 gtx. [url]
the 7xxx cards didn't drain anywhere close to that much, the 78xx around 90watts peak and the 79xx 80watts.[url]
Nvidia and ATI have both been criticized for their lack of performance per watt in their dx10 cards over any previous generation, and its seems to be directly turning around in the mobile market.
It seems they can try and severely limit the stream processors (32 in 8700m gt compared to 128 in 8800gtx) and the memory bandwidth to compensate on a technology that is just built on power consumption.
And of course, even if notebooks can give that much AC power, the problem of heat still remains. People may be waiting for nothing, at least not in the near future until the next round of nvidia cards are released (maybe the jump from 88xx to 89xx will provide much more power savings than 78xx to 79xx) and allow dx10 tech to truly hit the mobile market.
Is the Dell Studio XPS 16 getting a graphics card upgrade anytime soon? I'm thinking about buying one soon, I really like 'em but the graphics card is the slowest thing in it for me. I know it's a multimedia laptop, not a gaming laptop but cmon now. On Dell's page, GAMING is the biggest keyword for this laptop. ATI HD 4670 is last gen and DX 11 is upon us. Competitor HP Envy 15 is already using the HD 5830. So can we expect a graphics card upgrade anytime soon from Dell?
However, before I buy one I want to know if there's been any word on dell refreshing the CPU or chipset on this model? I would rather wait 6 months to buy a new laptop than to buy it and have a newer model come out.
It's been a while since I kept up with the latest mobile processors and chipsets. I found a powerpoint presentation that indicated Intel would release the T9900 in the second half of 2009, but not sure if this would also include new chipset.
My xps 1710 with 7950 gtx (4gb ram) (100gb hdd) cant cope with battlefield 2 bad company 2 as am getting as like average 15 fps. Got drivers from dell that were updated 2 years back.
BF2 BC2 is set on lowest resolution with all setting at LOW!
What can I do to make this game play on this good fast laptop please.
iv notived that the studio 15 (1555) is getting a upgrade soon and a slight design change, and maybe the 17" studio too. the studio 15" is getting the 4570 soon and maybe the studio will get a better one too.
so will the studio ps get a new GPU too?
it would be amusing to see a low budget 15" multimedia laptop perform near dells high end gaming/multimedia made for performance and quality.
also even more funny to see a studio 17" maybe beat it.
i find it stupid how only MSI have started using the 4XXX ATI cards when they are so good.
some companies are on 3XXX still, its been like over ayears and a half now.
the FW wont get a 4XXX GPU and i need a upgrade now at my pc is a pain.
Has anyone done this on an Acer laptop? I recently bought a 5515 for my parents and after seeing all the bloatware that came on it I figured I'd do a clean OS install. I backed up the CD Key using the ABR utility and backed up all the drivers. I then started the new OS install and get all the way to "completing installation" and it sits there spinning for a good 20-30 mins before it freezes. I tried the 32 bit version first followed by the 64 bit and had no luck either try. I eventually reinstalled the factory settings using the recovery disc.
I know a few of you have 8800GTX SLI setups right now. What kind of temps do those cards hit under a heavy load such as Crysis? Are any of you overclocking them yet? How many fans does the M1730 have, and how loud are they on high speed?
So I am seeing that you can purchase the M1730 with this card for $1699. This seems kinda cheap to me, definately waaay cheaper than the sli 8800gtx setup was
Regarding the NVIDIA 8800, I would suggest that we all call and e-mail Dell and hope that pestering them enough will result in an answer. I myself am in the middle of wanting to purchase a new gaming laptop, and I don't really like the look of the new Alienware, so I'm sticking with the idea of purchasing a 1730. But the fact that I will be paying over $4,000 for a new gaming laptop with GPU's that are already outdated (and by a significant margin judging by the 8800 benchmarks) does bug me a bit.
I've contacted Dell by e-mail/chat and I get the usual "I don't know anything" answer but the interesting part is that the a few of the techs I spoke with said that other people have brought up the 8800 issue as well. I've also called and spoke with a sales guy who told me he doesn't think the 1730 will EVER be able to have the 8800 because they have to custom fit it to the motherboard and that will take months and months and by that time another GPU will probably be out which may not even fit into the 1730 and all that.
But again who knows and he may have just been trying to make a sale...but the point is that someone who is interested in, or already owns, the 1730 is not a parent shopping for a computer for their kid. A person who has come across the 1730 is an advanced user and savvy enough to know that the 8700's in there are already outdated. So if Dell begins to see that they are receiving returns/cancellations and calls/e-mails about the 8800 issue, and they are smart enough to know their target audience for the 1730, I'm sure they will give us some answer as to when (if) the 8800 will be available for the 1730 and what the deal is in regard to a possible upgrade path.
I got my new M1730 this week, and after bedding it down, and making sure it seems fine, I ran a 3Dmark2006, and got 9728, which seemed a little low, given what I've seen on reivews,
and benchmark sites, for a 8800 512 GTX SLi setup, even if I do have a T8100 in it.
i've got dual 8700's, but was wondering if it was possible to sell those, and get a single 8800gtx. i'm assuming it would give better peformance than what i'm getting now.
I have m1730 with dual 8800 gtx. Had it over a year now and have had no problems with it. Now all a sudden when I enable SLI it gives me a blue screen. The problem is with nvlddmkm.sys. I'v tried different drivers and nothing has fixed this. I googled and looked for similar problems but nobody seems to have any fixes. Also most problems I found on google are when running games. My machine won't even boot up in SLI mode with the original driver. With the newer drivers after i accept changes seems like windows is attempting to load the second card then i get the blue screen.
Just got off the phone with a tech guy at DELL XPS, I was asking about the upgrade path, and the 8800M cards, and timescales for release.
The guy says they have an engineering problem at the moment, and are "Unable to make the cards function correctly with the CPU" (for what reason I didnt ask) He did mention "proportional speeds" - so im assuming he means something about bus speeds but im not sure..and that "They have no immediate plans to release this card in this laptop".
He might well be feeding me rubbish just to try and get a sale, but does anyone have any contacts at Dell that can confirm or even deny this is true?
I was hoping that they would come out with the new card in the unit before or around xmas - seems (if this is anything close to the truth) that this is unlikely from what he said...
I'm assuming they are going to equip the XPS 1730 w/ the 8800 GTX but where will the 8800 GTS go? Will that be in the XPS 1710 or jump all the way down to the Inspiron 1720? I also think XPS will mirror Alienware to save on costs.
my guess:
XPS 1730 8800 GTX XPS 1710 removed from lineup (outdated form factor) XPS 1715 8800 GTX (new 15in version of the 1730) Inspiron 1720 8800 GTS Inspiron 1520 8600 GT
Within Vista, both cards show up with a yellow exclamaton and a error code 43
I tried installing drivers off the dell website and then using Nvidia Reference drivers. No luck...
Re-Installed vista fresh- same problem...
Installed Windows 7 w/ Refernce Nvidia drivers - Same problem.
THEN..I installed Windows XP Pro SP3 with Dell website drivers and everything is working fine. Ran 3dmark, no crashes...
is this a software problem or hardware? Why would my 8800 work in XP but not Vista or Win 7? Has anyone heard of this problem? My 1730 is out of warranty so calling dell isnt an option.
Is it normal that dell.ca would have fewer choices of screens than dell.com? I'm looking at the studio 15, and dell.com lists Hi Resolution/Bright,
glossy widescreen 15.4 WLED display (1440x900) as a choice, which is what I want, but dell.ca doesn't. When I view the system specs though, that choice is listed as on option.
I have a Dell Latitude E6530 and when I plugged in my monitor and keyboard into the docking station, they were not recognized. But I can plug them into the laptop while docked and they are recognized.
I have a Dell Inspiron N5010 purchased about 2 and a half years ago. I was just deleting some random programs which I don't ever use, and accidentally clicked on uninstall Dell Data Safe Local Back up.
How to reinstall it? I tried to do so by clicking this link [URL] .... but it just came up with an error message.
