Dell :: 8800 Series And Lineup Speculation:
Nov 21, 2007
I'm assuming they are going to equip the XPS 1730 w/ the 8800 GTX but where will the 8800 GTS go? Will that be in the XPS 1710 or jump all the way down to the Inspiron 1720? I also think XPS will mirror Alienware to save on costs.
my guess:
XPS 1730 8800 GTX
XPS 1710 removed from lineup (outdated form factor)
XPS 1715 8800 GTX (new 15in version of the 1730)
Inspiron 1720 8800 GTS
Inspiron 1520 8600 GT
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Jul 9, 2009
I was asking about the difference between XBRITE-ECO and XBRITE-FullHD. To my surprise, the rep told me the XBRITE-FullHD is LED backlit (which I think it's not true). I ask her to confirm that and she came back with the same answer.
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Mar 23, 2010
The dm4 is green lit, its going to have AMD and Intel CPUs, and ATi hybrid/switchable graphics (possibly the intel models could have optional Nvidia graphics not sure). The dv5 is coming back (in a much different, new style form), and the dv6 and dv7 will be overhauled so that styling wise they are somewhere between the new G62 and the Envy (dv5,6,7 will be closer to the G62 but with an imitation Envy one piece "clickpad" that in my opinion is not very good). The big news is that there will be AMD quad core CPUs available in HP notebooks for the first time, AND some models of the dv6 will feature touch screens. They are also going to have different color schemes and some of them will feature a metallic shell. Also they now will have island style keyboards, like the dm3s.
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May 18, 2010
The envy line is supposed to be the performance line isnt it? what makes the customizable pavillions worse than the envy 14 in terms of performance? I was just wondering because i was debating which laptop to get. Also, when are all the newer pavillions going to be released?
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Nov 3, 2009
If I have a 1080p/5.1 source on my laptop (BD, .mkv, etc.), will I be able to output that signal via the HDMI port?
I've read about some laptops only supporting HDMI video/not supporting HD resolution output/HDCP issues and just want to confirm that the Studio is capable of this.
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May 5, 2010
I've gotten bored with correcting everybody about the specs of the previous and newer Envy laptops that are out there. So, to that end, i have put together this thread with the specs for all of them, as far as we know at this point.
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Envy 13
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CPU:Core 2 Duo Processor SL9400: 1.86 GHz, 6MB L2 CacheGPU:Discrete - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330 w/ 512MB GDDR3Integrated - Intel X4500M(Switchable... Manual or via Power Plug Detection)Chipset:????Memory:4 x 1333Mhz DDR3 Slots (Clarksfield)Display:13.3" 1366x768 Radiance Infinity (LED backlit)(E2E glass)Storage:1x SATA/300 Port (1x 2.5" drive)Notable I/O:Chicklet KeyboardHDMILow Light Webcam (non-HD)2x USB 2.0Gigabit EthernetSD/MMC card reader1x Headphone JackBattery:4 Cell Internal9 Cell Slice==============================================================
Envy 15 - Gen 1
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CPU:Intel Core i7 Quad Core (Clarksfield)GPU:Discrete - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830 w/ 1GB GDDR3(Not Switchable)Chipset:PM55Memory:4 x 1333Mhz DDR3 Slots (Clarksfield)Display:15.6" 1920x1080 LED Backlit (non-Radiance type)15.6" 1366x768 LED Backlit (non-Radiance type)(not E2E glass)Storage:2x SATA/300 Port (Either 1x 2.5" or 2x 1.8" drives)Matrix RAID (PM55)Notable I/O:Chicklet KeyboardHDMILow Light Webcam (non-HD)2x USB 2.0Esata/USB2.0 portGigabit EthernetSD/MMC card reader1x Headphone Jack
Battery:6 Cell Internal12 Cell Slice...............
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Feb 9, 2008
I know a few of you have 8800GTX SLI setups right now. What kind of temps do those cards hit under a heavy load such as Crysis? Are any of you overclocking them yet? How many fans does the M1730 have, and how loud are they on high speed?
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Feb 20, 2008
I could grab one with the 8700's and then swap in the 8800's SLI.
Would I need to have an 8700 SLI setup to move to an 8800 SLI setup?
Are there any caveats about going from one to the other? Any additional hardware needed besides the cards themselves?
Is there a part # so that I can see what I'm probably going to have to spend for the 8800 cards?
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May 21, 2008
about the possibility for an 8800 GTS video upgrade for the 1700/1720.
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Apr 11, 2009
are the 9800 much much better than the 8800s?
i have had some nasty over heating problems with my 8800s recently and they are offering to replace my graphics cards with new or refurbed 8800s,
im pretty good at arguing the toss and reckon i can blag an upgrade to the 9800s, just wondered how much of an improvement they are
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Mar 12, 2009
So I am seeing that you can purchase the M1730 with this card for $1699. This seems kinda cheap to me, definately waaay cheaper than the sli 8800gtx setup was
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Nov 22, 2007
Regarding the NVIDIA 8800, I would suggest that we all call and e-mail Dell and hope that pestering them enough will result in an answer. I myself am in the middle of wanting to purchase a new gaming laptop, and I don't really like the look of the new Alienware, so I'm sticking with the idea of purchasing a 1730. But the fact that I will be paying over $4,000 for a new gaming laptop with GPU's that are already outdated (and by a significant margin judging by the 8800 benchmarks) does bug me a bit.
I've contacted Dell by e-mail/chat and I get the usual "I don't know anything" answer but the interesting part is that the a few of the techs I spoke with said that other people have brought up the 8800 issue as well. I've also called and spoke with a sales guy who told me he doesn't think the 1730 will EVER be able to have the 8800 because they have to custom fit it to the motherboard and that will take months and months and by that time another GPU will probably be out which may not even fit into the 1730 and all that.
But again who knows and he may have just been trying to make a sale...but the point is that someone who is interested in, or already owns, the 1730 is not a parent shopping for a computer for their kid. A person who has come across the 1730 is an advanced user and savvy enough to know that the 8700's in there are already outdated. So if Dell begins to see that they are receiving returns/cancellations and calls/e-mails about the 8800 issue, and they are smart enough to know their target audience for the 1730, I'm sure they will give us some answer as to when (if) the 8800 will be available for the 1730 and what the deal is in regard to a possible upgrade path.
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Jan 24, 2009
I got my new M1730 this week, and after bedding it down, and making sure it seems fine, I ran a 3Dmark2006, and got 9728, which seemed a little low, given what I've seen on reivews,
and benchmark sites, for a 8800 512 GTX SLi setup, even if I do have a T8100 in it.
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Feb 10, 2008
In the US, the M1330 already has the LED backlit and the penryn for some time now. Yet the 1530 is just sitting there...
Other manufacturers have began offering newer GPUs than the 8600, but still nothing from dell on their 15.4".
They teased us with the addition of the 1530 under the "XPS Gaming Laptop" header, but its exactly the same as the regular one.
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Mar 4, 2008
i've got dual 8700's, but was wondering if it was possible to sell those, and get a single 8800gtx. i'm assuming it would give better peformance than what i'm getting now.
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Oct 21, 2009
I have m1730 with dual 8800 gtx. Had it over a year now and have had no problems with it. Now all a sudden when I enable SLI it gives me a blue screen. The problem is with nvlddmkm.sys. I'v tried different drivers and nothing has fixed this. I googled and looked for similar problems but nobody seems to have any fixes. Also most problems I found on google are when running games. My machine won't even boot up in SLI mode with the original driver. With the newer drivers after i accept changes seems like windows is attempting to load the second card then i get the blue screen.
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Oct 16, 2007
Just got off the phone with a tech guy at DELL XPS, I was asking about the upgrade path, and the 8800M cards, and timescales for release.
The guy says they have an engineering problem at the moment, and are "Unable to make the cards function correctly with the CPU" (for what reason I didnt ask) He did mention "proportional speeds" - so im assuming he means something about bus speeds but im not sure..and that "They have no immediate plans to release this card in this laptop".
He might well be feeding me rubbish just to try and get a sale, but does anyone have any contacts at Dell that can confirm or even deny this is true?
I was hoping that they would come out with the new card in the unit before or around xmas - seems (if this is anything close to the truth) that this is unlikely from what he said...
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Jan 29, 2008
if anything currently selling could match pefrormance of DELL`s updated line ...just check out the new m1730 config with dual GTXs
Hope to see benchmarks soon and some instant savings, DELL
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Jul 15, 2007
You look at the wattage of the desktop versions of the cards and its insane. 165 watts for the 8800 gtx. [url]
the 7xxx cards didn't drain anywhere close to that much, the 78xx around 90watts peak and the 79xx 80watts.[url]
Nvidia and ATI have both been criticized for their lack of performance per watt in their dx10 cards over any previous generation, and its seems to be directly turning around in the mobile market.
It seems they can try and severely limit the stream processors (32 in 8700m gt compared to 128 in 8800gtx) and the memory bandwidth to compensate on a technology that is just built on power consumption.
And of course, even if notebooks can give that much AC power, the problem of heat still remains. People may be waiting for nothing, at least not in the near future until the next round of nvidia cards are released (maybe the jump from 88xx to 89xx will provide much more power savings than 78xx to 79xx) and allow dx10 tech to truly hit the mobile market.
corrected 8700m gt processors
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Aug 24, 2009
problem with my 8800 GTX in my XPS 1730...
Within Vista, both cards show up with a yellow exclamaton and a error code 43
I tried installing drivers off the dell website and then using Nvidia Reference drivers. No luck...
Re-Installed vista fresh- same problem...
Installed Windows 7 w/ Refernce Nvidia drivers - Same problem.
THEN..I installed Windows XP Pro SP3 with Dell website drivers and everything is working fine. Ran 3dmark, no crashes...
is this a software problem or hardware? Why would my 8800 work in XP but not Vista or Win 7? Has anyone heard of this problem? My 1730 is out of warranty so calling dell isnt an option.
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Feb 20, 2010
or is the dell support service just pulling my leg?? laptop is screwed and i have and engineer coming out to me on tuesday to replace
the motherboard, heatsink and 8800's.. he said there is a shortage at the moment but they will be in stock by the end of the month
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Feb 5, 2008
anyone has managed to get an upgrade (free or otherwise) out of Dell to change their 8700 for 8800?
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Dec 21, 2007
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i threw my 2 cents in. benchmarked my m1710 with 7900gtx in the thread.
my FRAPS result is near the same as what the 8800 got @ 1280x1024...
maybe diff @ higher res? or better drivers?
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Dec 6, 2009
my friend is thinking about purchasing a new laptop for his mother. The HP DM3 laptops look to the best solution so far since they are both lightweight and have great battery life, something he thinks she'll appreciate. One thing i'm not sure about is their ability to run Adobe Photoshop CS4 smoothly.
I don't use Photoshop very often and when I do, it's on my laptop, which is pretty decent in terms of specifications. Will the program run fine on a laptop with a Intel CULV or AMD Neo processor and integrated graphics? Which leads me to my next question:
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May 12, 2010
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Feb 14, 2010
I just saw the new sony e series laptops. Are they supposed to replace the NW series?
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Feb 13, 2010
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Jan 22, 2010
B series is released in this January
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Which series is better? The B series is for business. This series is only 5.9lbs with 15.4'. On the other hand, the CW series is around 5.5 lbs and it is only 14'. What do you think? Have you ever try B series? 15.4' is pretty good for movie.
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Oct 12, 2008
Does the E6400 use the same crappy keyboard as the Dell E4300 that I'm returning?
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May 2, 2009
Is this model a bit more substantial or a little heavier feeling than the studio, yet still lighter than the M1330?
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