Dell :: Do Recent Studio 14z's Still Have Excessive Keyboard Flex?
Oct 26, 2009
I have been trying to read thru the gazillion posts in the 14z owner's lounge - but there are too many! Anyways, I have decided to sell my ASUS G50Vt so I'm thinking about a Studio 14z.
About the only drawback I can think of is several reviewers have commented that the keyboard flexes too much.
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Nov 22, 2008
Time for a new notebook, my old Inspiron 1505/6400 is going to be my mother’s new computer . I went to a shop that carried Both Studio 15 and 17 (in countries where DELL doesn’t have a branch they sell prebuilt computers through different retailers) and checked them out. I am mostly interested in Studio 17” because of the larger screen and dual HDD option but it has a terrible terrible keyboard flex. It doesn’t matter how hard a press a key, the keyboard will move down with the key pressed and it is really very annoying to type on. The same thing with Studio 15 keyboard, but the flex is reduced because of the smaller keyboard. But it’s still there …. and it is also annoying. Compared to my Inspiron 1505, it is a night and day difference, 1505’s keyboard is solid and doesn’t budge when I type, whereas Studio’s keyboard feels like it’s made of rubber.
What is the deal with Studios keyboards, are they all like this or the models on display came with defective keyboards? Both models had backlit keyboards if it makes any difference in supplier/built quality.
If all Studio 17 notebooks have such a bad quality keyboard, this is a deal breaker for me. Still it’s 2008 and I haven’t seen a notebook with such a bad quality keyboard, even the cheapest 15” Inspiron 1501 on display had a better quality keyboard.
Anyone with a Studio 17, please share your experience.
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Nov 9, 2008
M6400 is reporting that the keyboard is flexing a lot.
[quote=nixx;4125953]Just got my Covet in.. snapped a few photos. All in all, the extrior build quality is like a rock. The exterior seems to be all aluminum. Very nice quality feel to it. I can confirm that the keyboard flexes a lot. My Precision M90 has zero keyboard flex. This is the only laptop I've ever owned that flexes like this. I hope it's not a longevity problem.[/QUOTE
Is this a general thing or a single machine? Does any of the other M6400 owners experience such flex?
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Oct 13, 2009
got this (invoice date 9/23) for home office & we're setting it up but noticed the palmrest & particularly the keyboard have a degree of mush flex that I never experienced with any other notebook, is this much Flex normal for E6500 or should I exchange-return it? (as seen somewhat in youtube video of another E6500 owner below; keyboard caves like pressing a bouncy ball, more the closer the keys are to the center)?:
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No other review here mentioned this:
Dell Latitude E6500 Review With Pictures (Updated Constantly)
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What is Keyboard Flex?
Keyboard flex? monitor flex?
Tech Support told me the flex is normal to withstand stress better & keyboard replacement may not make it any different & that the return policy is 21 days (today-tomorrow) but Customer care assured me it's 30 days so I should have until next week by Oct 22.
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"New Vostro, OptiPlex, Latitude, and Dell Precision systems purchased directly from divisions designated by Dell as Commercial or Public may be returned within 30 days from the date on the packing slip or invoice."
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Jul 18, 2014
I just bought a Lenovo Yoga 2 pro and installed windows 8.1 by itsef. During Windows 8.1 initial setup I was able to use keyboard to type in PC Name, but after that the keyboard and touch pad was not working/no any response any more. After Windows 8.1 lunched the keyboard also no any response. I have to use touch screen soft keyboard. But when laptop in BIOS mode (turn power off and press a small round button next to power button) the keyboard was working fine. So I think that the keyboard hardware is ok, but some thing iwas wrong with Windows 8.1 software issue. I also un-selected all on Easy of Access->Keyboard section in Windows 8.1.
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Jun 28, 2014
Not sure if this is a defect on my machine but the backlit keyboard refuses to turn off. I tried the fn + spcbar and no luck. The light just blinks for a split second and stays on.
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May 20, 2014
I've owned my Y2P for the last 3 or 4 months now. Keyboard backlight always turned off/on with Fn Spacebar just fine... until today. Fn+Space just gets the keyboard backlight to flash off for a second, and then back on.
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Also I checked and all of the other Fn keys work. Also the Caps Lock light doesn't come on either.
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And if that's not all, My power indicator light is amber even when fully charged. (solid, not blinking)
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May 24, 2014
I can't use the keyboard and the touchpad at the same time, using the keyboard disables the touchpad.
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Nov 13, 2013
How to turn on the backlight on the yoga 2's keyboard?
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Sep 6, 2014
I have a Yoga 2 11.  It seems that all of a sudden that Lenovo Transition is not disabling the mouse and keyboard until the computer is in the full tablet mode.  It used to disable these features in stand mode so when the computer is sitting on the keyboard, it's not pressing any keys. But it's not working anymore. I have uninstalled the program, re-downloaded the software from lenovo, installed it, and also checked for updates.  I also tried both drivers for windows 8 and 8.1 ....
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Jan 18, 2014
My laptop (Ideapad Flex 15) updated and restarted this morning -- upon which I lost all KB function. I could not log in since could not enter my password. I plugged in a wireless USB KB which works. How to restore laptop KB function?
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Dec 16, 2009
Ordered an Inspiron 15z from Dell EPP for $678 on 12/10. Initial estimated delivery date: 12/28.
Yesterday, I noticed a small price drop ($16, lol) with the use of a coupon code, so I called up EPP customer service about the 30 day price guarantee. The rep, a nice guy from India, informed me that technically, the price guarantee was not valid with coupon codes, but he gave it to me anyway.
Today, I received a call from the same rep saying that the system was shipping out today, with an estimated delivery of 12/18...10 days earlier than originally estimated, and that I should see the price credit on my CC statement within 48 hours.
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Aug 28, 2014
I recently bought a lenovo Flex 2 -14" one. The keyboard and touchpad together keeps getting disconnected at times. The backlight also keeps blinking when turned on. During that time, I am not able to receive any response via the touchpad and keyboard. It's like a loose connection. Keeps turning on and off!!
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Sep 14, 2014
My Yoga 2 Pro has very often problems to activate the keyboard when I open the display.
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This is what I do:
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- working with the Yoga 2 Pro
- close all applications and after that I close the display
- after a while (can be a few minutes or several hours) I open the display
- it take a few seconds until the display is turned on (that's expected)
- in at least 50% the keyboard stays deactivated. The backlight can't be turned and the notebook does not notice any pressed key. I'm unable to log in :-(
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- I need to close the display again, need to wait a few seconds - and when I open the display for a second time, the keyboard gets activated - not always, but most often. But sometime the keyboard stays disabled although I try the described procedure many time. If that happens I need to reboot the machine.
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All drivers are updated.
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Oct 24, 2013
So I love my Lenovo yoga until I upgraded to windows 8.1 then all of a sudden every time I signed into my computer via Microsoft account my keyboard and audio would be completely disabled I called Lenovo support they connected to my computer went through all of my settings and uninstalled and reinstalled drivers, nothing his last guess was to tell me to restore my computer.
So I did and as my laptop ramped up it asked to sign into a Microsoft account so I did (keep in mind this computer is fully functional after the restore everything works perfect) as soon as I hit the enter key the keyboard and audio become disabled fully disabled my, physical keyboard. Since the computer worked great right after the restore I also know that it is not a hardware issue as I have already sent it out to get all the sensors replaced its a software problem that revolves around my Microsoft account who do I talk to about this Lenovo? Or Microsoft? Lenovo just keeps telling me that I need to restore my computer completely ignoring the exact issues I am describing ,and as far as Microsoft account, this is not something I control I only own the account Microsoft manages it so why is my Microsoft account disabling my keyboard, again I stress I have done every single driver check there is I have uninstalled all of them and reinstalled.
I have looked through my settings as well as had a technician remotely control my computer to confirm that the computer is in perfect working order no settings out of place and then I restored all my settings to default and then restored the computer and everything works great until I enter my Microsoft account email and password then my keyboard becomes disabled instantaneously. And yes I was able to sign in using the keyboard
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Mar 13, 2009
I just had a replacement done on my LED. I had a Samsung and now got a Toshiba. I feel that the Sasmung had better brightness and more vibrant colors. The Dell tech tells me that Samsung is not longer manufactured...
Has anyone who ordered recently gotten a Samsung LED?
To check, go to display settings, advanced setting, monitor, properties, details, hardware Ids:
LCD2306= Toshiba
SEC5441= Samsung
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Nov 13, 2014
I just got my lenovo yoga 3 pro, and started removing what I thought was bloatware, but I'm guessing I removed something important. Â Now, the keyboard/mousepad doesn't disable when I'm in tablet/stand/tent mode. Â
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Feb 4, 2009
decided to open up the keyboard to see why my keyboard was hitting my screen and found a wad of masking tape and a broken plastic sheath all taped up to a little connector from the keyboard.
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Oct 6, 2008
I just got a new Dell XPS m1530:
2.5 Ghz
4 Gb RAM
300 Gb HDD
Geforce 8600
Vista Premium
I noticed that I can hear the hard drive spinning (like that little clicking sound it makes) almost like 70% of the time. Is that normal? I tried killing off some applications but it doesn't stop! Is there any way to find which application is doing this, is this even normal?
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Jan 6, 2009
I ordered a Macbook Pro (and no, I don't really care that the 17" came out now, it'd have been too hulking for me to carry around anyway) the day after Christmas and received it last Wednesday, the 31st of December 2008.
I see that Apple just released iLife '09. To be honest, I'd feel kinda ripped of if I had to pay for a new version so soon... do you think there would be any way for me to get an upgrade to iLife '09 for free?
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Dec 12, 2009
the battery of my Dv7t is draining very fast... first i was on vista, it would shut down directly at abt 30% and the battery would last like jus 45 minutes on full 100% recharge! now i moved to Windows 7 and the battery went from 100% to 6o% in just 20 minutes.. also there is a error showing on the battery bar saying "consider replacing ur battery .. the system might shut down suddenly"...what should i do.?the problem starting suddenly like 10 days ago before that my laptop was giving like 2 Hrs back up on full recharge!
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Jun 26, 2009
For the past few weeks my DV5 has been behaving oddly when booted up from a cold start. The fan switches on producing an incredibly annoying rattle and squeal that almost sounds as if a bearing has gone in it. It's the same noise you occasionally hear from desktop fans that are clogged with dust and gunk.
It usually lasts for only a few seconds on initial bootup and is all over by the time Vista loads.
However, this laptop spends 95% of its time on my desk in my dorm room, residing on an improvised laptop stand for better cooling. I took it into the shop I bought it from now that I'm home and whilst they were happy to look at it, it just wouldn't replicate what I had been describing to them when they were listening to it. Murphy's law I guess. Anyway, they thought the only way to sort it out would be to leave it with them and they would try it daily till it it reared its head. Not knowing how long it would take to get over its stage fright (and needing some information off it) I declined that offer!
Has anyone noticed similar traits or symptoms in their machines? If so, how did you remedy it? I'm really tempted to pull it apart myself but it is only 7 months old so well within the warranty period that I may put in jeopardy.
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Jan 16, 2010
Does anybody else with a dv5t have excessive battery wear? I purchased the laptop in August of 2008. According to hwmonitor my battery can only hold 30758 mwh down from the designed capacity of 47520 mwh. I rarely used the battery. Maybe once a week for 5 minutes to move the laptop.
I asked a friend with a dv5t purchased around the same time and his capacity is down to nearly 27000 mwh. Our laptops are the same except his has the intel integrated graphics while i got the 9600m gt. Also he uses the battery almost daily.
When i first got the laptop i got nearly 2 hours out of it. Now i can barely get an hour.
We both calibrated our batteries a few times by fully discharging and fully charging a few times which did nothing.
I know that batteries experience wear but does this seem excessive? I believe the estimate is about 10% a year. But this is almost 50% wear in a year and a half.
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Dec 11, 2009
I last used my DM3 about 2 1/2 weeks ago. When I shut it down the battery was at 100%. When I powered it up today, I had only 58% battery charge. This drain seemed excessive to me so I called HP and they seem to have agreed with me as they are sending me a new battery for free under warranty.
Anyone else notice excessive battery drain when the unit is shut down?
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May 6, 2014
My Laptop automatically installed the recent windows 8 update during shutdown. After that It is not booting properly. It just restarts repeatedly.
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Jan 1, 2010
I have an Acer 4810TZ timeline (SU4100 processor). I had charged the battery up to 100% and then left on an 11 day vacation. When I came back, I found the battery to have only a 16.7% charge left on it. Is this an excessive lost of battery over an 11 day period? My laptop was left shut down (it was not in sleep or hibernate mode). I would think the drain on the battery would be minimal.
Is my battery defective or is this normal? I've had the laptop for about 2 months.
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Mar 6, 2010
here we go, acer 3810tz :
1.Laptop turned off -> charger unplugged -> turned on after 15h, battery bar:
99,99-93,0= 6,99% of drain
2.Laptop turned off -> charger stays plugged -> turned on after 15h, battery bar:
99,7-99,0= 0,7% of drain
3.Charger unplugged (laptop goes to on battery mode) -> laptop turned off ->
-> turned on after 48h, battery bar:
98,0-97,0= 1,0% of drain
Conclusion:
There seems to be a bug in BIOS power managment, so:
1. Unplug charger, laptop goes to on battery mode (green leaf).
2. Turn off laptop
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Jan 8, 2009
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Aug 14, 2009
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Heres a video I made to demonstrate the ammount of flex on the edge to edge lid. It does have flex and bend, but its not as bad as the one j3n82 reported. I recorded with an iPhone so the video quality is crap. Also forgot I had left it in portrait mode when I recorded it (I didn't have a tripod so I used a cup lol). But I hope it gives some of you a basic idea of the quality. I thought openning the blinds to allow the vertical lines will show the bend/flex a lot more. I was applying quite a bit of pressure, although it doesn't seem like I was in the video. I felt as if any harder I might have damage something, or maybe pop the edge to edge screen out. I used an 8lb dumbell, I think thats the limit.
If you noticed the cloth I used to cover the keyboard when I closed the screen, I did this this to avoid getting the smudges on the screen when I pushed the lid down onto the keyboard.
At the end of the video I tried showing the Edge to Edge display, notice how theres another layer of screen over the bezel. Thats the difference between the edge to edge.
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