Dell :: S-XPS 1640 (w/4670 1GB) Throttling Issue
Feb 3, 2010
[02/03/2010]
I posted a few weeks ago about how my 1640 might be throttling. While with unclewebb's ThrottleStop shows that when I run Furmark and Prime95, the multiplier of the CPU goes down to 3x.
I'm going to do some intensive testing tonight with my system and hopefully some other 1640 users could come out and test theirs since most of us have different configurations. (Please see my signature down at the bottom for system specs)
Also, I see that in the other thread about the S-XPS 1645, it was normal gaming that caused it to Throttle. Games such as TF2, Demigod, and D.A .....
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Aug 24, 2009
how their system performs with WoW? cause i can't go past fair video quality, w/o the game just being choppy and unplayable. i can't even get past 30 fps, this just seems ridiculous to me. i have all the latest drivers, my pc undervolted, a cooling pad, so i doubt its overheating. i'm using W7, if anyone has any suggestions for me other than a fresh install i'd greatly appreciate it. if worst comes to worse i'll do a fresh install, but i'd rather not redownload all the i have on my laptop.
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Nov 21, 2009
I'm looking my XPS 1640 using GPU-Z today, and I'm really confused about the GPU code. It reads out M96, which should be mobility radeon 4650 according to this amd website:
http://developer.amd.com/drivers/pc_...s/default.aspx
A right mobility 4670 should have a gpu code M96-XT. The wired thing is that the rest things, gpu clock, memory clock, device id are all right.
Just for the concern, did dell give me an overclocked 4650 instead of 4670 which it should have give me?
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Feb 10, 2010
In recent light of the the throttling investigation and incoming fix on the 1645 and 1647 models, Ive been instructed to make a separate thread to investigate the same issues for the 1640. If you have a 1640 with throttling issues please post any information in this thread. This is a new thread covering the same issue as the other problematic 164X's. Throttling.
Unclewebb can back me up on all of this as I went through these tests with him, the same tests he used to determine throttling on all other 164Xs models.
At full GPU and CPU load, mulitplier scales back to 6x and 3x. My 2.93ghz t9800 then clocks down to 1500mhz and 798mhz respectively.
Programs used: RMclock, CPU-Z, GPU-Z, 3Dmark06, Prime95, Throttlestop
For Bill: Original 1640 threads where users started reporting throttling. Joker first reported throttling on the 1640s when he had a 3670.
==>The Official Studio XPS 1640 + ATi 4670 GPU Owner's Thread <== *Part 2*
===> The Official Studio XPS 1640 + ATi 4670 GPU Owner's Thread<===
**A user has decided to run a few gaming tests to prove it effects in real world everyday performance........................
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Jul 28, 2009
I currently have an ASUS G50V-A2 and am looking to sell it to get a new Dell XPS 1640 with the new graphics chipset.
I have only had the ASUS since last October, but I am always wanting a new laptop every 6 - 12 months and this Dell has caught my eye.
Looking at the specs they are similiar, but the Dell does have a few upgrades to what I have:
2.66GHz processor (Asus - 2.53)
Vista Upgrade to Windows 7 (Asus - no upgrade)
1920x1080 (Asus - 1680x1050)
ATI 4760 (Asus - Geforce 9700GT) .....
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Jan 23, 2010
Everywhere talked only 1645 throttling problem and dell fix 1645 and so on.. If Dell fix 1640 throttling problem to?
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May 4, 2010
This has been happening lately ill be playing starcraft 2 ( other games as well ) but this one specifically that all of a sudden frame rates dip to 2 - 10 fps and the game crawls. Starcraft 2 gives me a warning saying my computer is running slow. I normally get 30 - 40 fps with a mix of medium/high settings at 1920 x 1080. Temps seem normal but my cpu usage is spiked at 100% when this is happening. I know throttling on the 1645 and 1647 is common but ive never had this problem with my 1640 until now. I have 2 years left of warranty so im ok. If i call dell what am i going to tell them and what are they going to do?
Below is a pic of temps
http://i43.tinypic.com/2gv254l.png
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Feb 25, 2010
Please note that my GPU Throttles down when it hits 84C. This cycle will continue up and down as the system system downclocks the GPU.
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May 19, 2009
Check it out:
A07 BIOS Update
[url]
Fixes and Enhancements
Support new PWM panel.
support new configuration with Gfx ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670.
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Dec 24, 2009
I just had a fresh format and installed windows 7.
Im just wondering, I used the mobility modder and the newest driver pack from ATI, which is the 9.12 suite.
However, when everything was installed, I checked my driver version and it's 8.681.0.0 (11/24/2009)
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Aug 22, 2009
I currently have the default driver which is 8.612. Looking at the ATI, there is a new catalyst suite that came out a few days ago, version 9.8 for the 4000 mobility series. Should I download that, or should I just go for the one listed on the dell site?
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Jul 4, 2009
Which is the better graphics card the 8600m gt on the m1530 or the new ati 4670 on the xps 16?
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Sep 24, 2009
Anyone else's SXPS 16 with the 4670 have HWMonitor not detecting the temperature of the 4670?
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Feb 24, 2010
I used to have a 3670 motherboard and dell gave me a 4670 and everything is great, but I can no longer see gpu temp in the monitor. I could at first and some how it's just gone now.
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Jan 11, 2010
My dell technician ruined my laptop 1640 and they are going to build a new one for me. Shall I go for the 1647 i5-520M + 5730 DDR3 or my previous build 1640 T9600 c2d 2.8ghz + 4670 GDDR5? I've added a screen shot of the specifications.
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May 4, 2010
I've decided to replace my dinosaur of a desktop with a laptop and after some searching, the Dell Studio 17 seems to be the best bang for buck.
So the question is which of the two to buy.
#1
$2000 (NZD)
CPU: Intel i5 2.5ghz
GPU: Radeon 5650 1gb
#2
$2500 (NZD)
CPU: Intel i7 1.6ghz
GPU: Radeon 4670 1gb
Option 1 has the better GFX but worse CPU and option 2 vice versa.
Which one would end up with better game performance?
The main games I would expect to play are Bioshock 1 + 2, Mass effect 1 + 2, Starcraft 2.
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Jun 25, 2009
Since newer versions of this laptop will receive the new 4670 card, is it possible/stable to upgrade current SXPS 16s running the 3670 to the 4670?
Also, I Googled up the specs of both cards, it seems that the 3670 is clocked equally/higher than the 4670 and all other specs are the same.
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Dec 26, 2009
I wanted to use the hardware acceleration on the ati 4670 but when i go to use it with powerdirector it shows it as faded, does anyone know if the drivers that dell has doesnt enable this feature on the 4670's?
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May 28, 2009
I just noticed on the most recent bios update page for the Studio XPS 16 under the the Fixes and Enhancements tab it says "support new configuration with Gfx ATI Mobility Radeon?HD 4670".
This is probably an indication that the HD 3670 is going to be replaced with the newer HD 4670 sometime soon. If you are thinking about buying a Studio XPS 16 anytime soon you might want to wait.
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Apr 1, 2010
GPUZ shows my gpu core clock at 399.9mhz and it doesn't move - this is on my 4670 replacement that I received two days ago.
Everything is on "high performance".
What are others getting for this setting? I thought this was supposed to be 675.
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Jun 30, 2009
The recent addition of the 4670 option is what sold me on the SXPS 16, but I am ok with waiting a bit to save some money.
I guess my question is: in general, how long does it take new products to appear on the outlet website? or if you KNOW when the 4670 SXPSs will hit, can you tell me that?
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Aug 22, 2009
Is it possible to overclock a 4670 Mobility in my Dell Studio XPS using WINDOWS XP?
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Jun 25, 2009
This is a hands on discussion of the new videocard which include benchmarks, screenshots and video links to demonstrations.
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Oct 24, 2009
I know this question has a rather obvious answer, however I was wondering what kind of games can the ATI 3670 - 512MB graphics card handle?
I was hoping to get the 4670 card however the only option available to me from the Dell websites in the countries near me only have the 3670 listed
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Feb 12, 2010
I see all those threads about throttling, but they all are about the How and Why's, but none seems to tell me what throttling is / how i can recognize that my laptop is throttling.
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May 19, 2010
Hey guys I've been browsing the forums for awhile for the XPS 16.
Since I don't have the throtlling problem (Thank god because of the new bios and 130 watt adapter)... I'm wondering what the best drivers are for the ATI Mobility graphics..
To be honest, I'm not getting good framerates at all..
I'm using the mobility drivers straight from ATI...
Now I see 3 options..
1. From dell
2. From ATI Striaght
3. Desktop ATI Modded
which one of these are the best drivers?
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Oct 7, 2009
which one would be better for gaming. i want to play the new call of duty when it comes out. both with the icore7 2.8ghz and 4 gigs of ram
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Jul 17, 2009
Any conjecture or ideas on when the outlet is going to start selling refurb'd and other XPS 16 models with the ATI 4670 GPU?
As of right now, it's all 3670.
If they might start offering the new GPU within the next 2 weeks, I might wait. They've got some good deals there on everything else I want...
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Apr 12, 2010
just wondering if a driver exists, and if so, where to get it? I am a bit of a newb to mac and have looked around and found nothing related to my problem (resolution stuck at 1024 X768
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Feb 8, 2010
I just got a new Studio XPS 1647. Specs are i7-620M, 128 GB SSD, 4 GB RAM, RGBLED, and the standard ATI 4670. Now that dell actually appears serious about fixing the throttling problem, I am seriously considering keeping the laptop. I would however like to make a few modifications. I need to actually put the correct RAM into the computer (they put in 133Mhz rather than 1067, i know its lol). More importantly I would like to change the GPU out for an ATI 57xx series. My question is can I put in a 5730/5750/5770 and not void the warranty? Also have the 5750 and 5770 even been released yet? It seems like it can only be a win-win situation. The 57xx series runs on less power (25-30W compared to the 35W of the 4670), and also they are faster, DDR5 with the two higher end models.
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