Dell :: Studio 17 With 5650 Or 4670?
May 4, 2010
I've decided to replace my dinosaur of a desktop with a laptop and after some searching, the Dell Studio 17 seems to be the best bang for buck.
So the question is which of the two to buy.
#1
$2000 (NZD)
CPU: Intel i5 2.5ghz
GPU: Radeon 5650 1gb
#2
$2500 (NZD)
CPU: Intel i7 1.6ghz
GPU: Radeon 4670 1gb
Option 1 has the better GFX but worse CPU and option 2 vice versa.
Which one would end up with better game performance?
The main games I would expect to play are Bioshock 1 + 2, Mass effect 1 + 2, Starcraft 2.
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Sep 12, 2009
Do you guys think Dell will upgrade the Studio XPS 1640 with a Ati Mobility 5650 once it gets released?
And do you think the 5650 will be much faster than the 4670?
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May 28, 2009
I just noticed on the most recent bios update page for the Studio XPS 16 under the the Fixes and Enhancements tab it says "support new configuration with Gfx ATI Mobility Radeon?HD 4670".
This is probably an indication that the HD 3670 is going to be replaced with the newer HD 4670 sometime soon. If you are thinking about buying a Studio XPS 16 anytime soon you might want to wait.
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Oct 7, 2009
which one would be better for gaming. i want to play the new call of duty when it comes out. both with the icore7 2.8ghz and 4 gigs of ram
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Apr 12, 2010
just wondering if a driver exists, and if so, where to get it? I am a bit of a newb to mac and have looked around and found nothing related to my problem (resolution stuck at 1024 X768
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Sep 16, 2009
I'm a fairly advanced computer user (CS degree, etc), but I've had a horrible time trying to find a reasonably priced laptop that will run a 30" external monitor at 2560x1600.
I finally decided if a an output other than DVI-D would work. I found the XPS 16 which looked like a really sexy laptop, and I checked to see that the the 4670 supports 2560x1600 in theory, and that the DisplayPort to DVI-D would work in theory. I found two other posters on a non-computer forum who said they ran 2560x1600 off an XPS 16.
I tried to verify with Dell that DisplayPort would support 2560x1600 with a DisplayPort to DVI-D adapter. I finally found a sales person that sounded reasonably intelligent, and had him contact tech support to verify that it would do so.
So, I started my XPS 16 a little over 24 hours ago, and the the reported resolution from the monitor is 1280x800, and I haven't found a way to override that in Catalyst. (and no, I wouldn't be happy with using a 1080p 12xx by xxxx resolution)
I've spent over an hour on the phone with tech support and can't get anyone that even seems to comprehend the issue (Are you sure your monitor supports that resolution? Is it turned on? Has it worked before at that resolution? etc.)
I THINK an issue is that the monitor is seeing the connection as single link DVI and so only reporting 1280x800, but I don't know....
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Aug 7, 2009
I am experiencing some FPS dips and slowdowns and I would like to know if anyone else is having the same problem and if they know how to fix it............................................
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May 25, 2010
Ok so after all the speculation it has finally happened. Head over to dell.co.in and customise an xps 16 and you can upgrade the graphics card to a 5650. Unfortunately this wasn't the complete redesign many of us were hoping for, but at least its something. Anyone know what the performance difference will be?
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Sep 29, 2007
I have a 5652 but no restore disks or restore partition. I cannot for the life of me get the tv card working, despite trying all the drivers from the acer website. I have no idea which card it is, apart from either a Liteon or Avermedia, but as I say, all the drivers from the acer web site come back with a code 10, device cannot start. I have been told that this is defo a driver problem, and once the correct one is installed, the card will work.
I have also changed Windows xp home to xp pro, and acer told me this could be a problem, and also don't have acer arcade, but have a couple of other apps that should be compatable. Is there any way of getting a hardware list from my lap top?
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Apr 4, 2010
i looked in the owners thread but cant find any answers...has anyone actually o/cd this laptops 5650 from 450mhz default up?
I tried rivatuner and there is no option for it and ati tray tools crashed my pc and i had to uninstall in safe mode.
Currently i cannot upgrade to the 10.3 catalyst drivers as they r not supported in vaio's(why?)
I think this is what the problem is but i was just wondering if anyone has had any success...this model has its 5650 factory underclocked to 450mhz and i know it is designed to go to 650mhz .
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May 29, 2010
I ordered a Sony Vaio E series laptop yesterday which has a ati 5650 underclocked to 450mhz. Now I've heard that its possible to overclock it using AMDs gpu clock tool back to the 650mhz it should be. Does this mean that the clock rate of the gpu will always be set at that value or will it reset to 450mhz on restart?
Is there any way to make sure that the gpu stays overclocked always even on restart of windows?
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Feb 20, 2010
So at first I was confused but now I understand. First official, completely top to bottom support for all mobility cards (in the specified range of course) will come out with 10.3. What they didn't say that SOME mobility cards will be already supported with 10.2 and our " Dell (Studio XPS 16 Mobility Radeon HD 4670)" is on that list.
This was posted in another thread, but this wasn't the focus. They also have beta 10.3s...but I thought it was neat that official 10.2 WHQL certified drivers supported our card ....
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May 19, 2009
Check it out:
A07 BIOS Update
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Fixes and Enhancements
Support new PWM panel.
support new configuration with Gfx ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670.
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Aug 24, 2009
how their system performs with WoW? cause i can't go past fair video quality, w/o the game just being choppy and unplayable. i can't even get past 30 fps, this just seems ridiculous to me. i have all the latest drivers, my pc undervolted, a cooling pad, so i doubt its overheating. i'm using W7, if anyone has any suggestions for me other than a fresh install i'd greatly appreciate it. if worst comes to worse i'll do a fresh install, but i'd rather not redownload all the i have on my laptop.
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Dec 24, 2009
I just had a fresh format and installed windows 7.
Im just wondering, I used the mobility modder and the newest driver pack from ATI, which is the 9.12 suite.
However, when everything was installed, I checked my driver version and it's 8.681.0.0 (11/24/2009)
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Aug 22, 2009
I currently have the default driver which is 8.612. Looking at the ATI, there is a new catalyst suite that came out a few days ago, version 9.8 for the 4000 mobility series. Should I download that, or should I just go for the one listed on the dell site?
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Jul 4, 2009
Which is the better graphics card the 8600m gt on the m1530 or the new ati 4670 on the xps 16?
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Sep 24, 2009
Anyone else's SXPS 16 with the 4670 have HWMonitor not detecting the temperature of the 4670?
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Feb 24, 2010
I used to have a 3670 motherboard and dell gave me a 4670 and everything is great, but I can no longer see gpu temp in the monitor. I could at first and some how it's just gone now.
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Jan 11, 2010
My dell technician ruined my laptop 1640 and they are going to build a new one for me. Shall I go for the 1647 i5-520M + 5730 DDR3 or my previous build 1640 T9600 c2d 2.8ghz + 4670 GDDR5? I've added a screen shot of the specifications.
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Jun 25, 2009
Since newer versions of this laptop will receive the new 4670 card, is it possible/stable to upgrade current SXPS 16s running the 3670 to the 4670?
Also, I Googled up the specs of both cards, it seems that the 3670 is clocked equally/higher than the 4670 and all other specs are the same.
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Nov 21, 2009
I'm looking my XPS 1640 using GPU-Z today, and I'm really confused about the GPU code. It reads out M96, which should be mobility radeon 4650 according to this amd website:
http://developer.amd.com/drivers/pc_...s/default.aspx
A right mobility 4670 should have a gpu code M96-XT. The wired thing is that the rest things, gpu clock, memory clock, device id are all right.
Just for the concern, did dell give me an overclocked 4650 instead of 4670 which it should have give me?
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Dec 26, 2009
I wanted to use the hardware acceleration on the ati 4670 but when i go to use it with powerdirector it shows it as faded, does anyone know if the drivers that dell has doesnt enable this feature on the 4670's?
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Apr 1, 2010
GPUZ shows my gpu core clock at 399.9mhz and it doesn't move - this is on my 4670 replacement that I received two days ago.
Everything is on "high performance".
What are others getting for this setting? I thought this was supposed to be 675.
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Jun 30, 2009
The recent addition of the 4670 option is what sold me on the SXPS 16, but I am ok with waiting a bit to save some money.
I guess my question is: in general, how long does it take new products to appear on the outlet website? or if you KNOW when the 4670 SXPSs will hit, can you tell me that?
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Aug 22, 2009
Is it possible to overclock a 4670 Mobility in my Dell Studio XPS using WINDOWS XP?
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Jun 25, 2009
This is a hands on discussion of the new videocard which include benchmarks, screenshots and video links to demonstrations.
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Oct 24, 2009
I know this question has a rather obvious answer, however I was wondering what kind of games can the ATI 3670 - 512MB graphics card handle?
I was hoping to get the 4670 card however the only option available to me from the Dell websites in the countries near me only have the 3670 listed
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May 19, 2010
Hey guys I've been browsing the forums for awhile for the XPS 16.
Since I don't have the throtlling problem (Thank god because of the new bios and 130 watt adapter)... I'm wondering what the best drivers are for the ATI Mobility graphics..
To be honest, I'm not getting good framerates at all..
I'm using the mobility drivers straight from ATI...
Now I see 3 options..
1. From dell
2. From ATI Striaght
3. Desktop ATI Modded
which one of these are the best drivers?
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Jul 17, 2009
Any conjecture or ideas on when the outlet is going to start selling refurb'd and other XPS 16 models with the ATI 4670 GPU?
As of right now, it's all 3670.
If they might start offering the new GPU within the next 2 weeks, I might wait. They've got some good deals there on everything else I want...
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