Dell :: XPS M1530 Heatsink Copper Or Aluminum?
May 10, 2009
There are 3 known revisions of the heatsink. The first and second shown here while the third being another copper one but with smaller heat plates.
I know technically copper should be better since it is a better conductor than aluminum.
I have the aluminum revision but was thinking of buying a copper one off ebay. However before doing so I found a thread which noted some differences I didn't notice.
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Oct 9, 2008
I received a new M1530 because the one I received have a couple of cosmetic flaws that were due to poor worksmanship (dents, scratches, etc.). I've been playing and comparing these two M1530's and I've noticed several things. My old M1530 came with the Optiarc DVD+/-RW drive and the new M1530 came with a Matsh1ta DVD+/-RW drive. I know a lot of people have complained about the DVD drive being noisy. Well.. the Matsh1ta drive is quiet! The Optiarc drive is super noisy. On to more things.. The old M1530 came with a Samsung 5400rpm 250GB harddrive, the new M1530 came with a WD 5400rpm 250GB hardrive.
None of that matters though because it has been replaced by a Seagate 7200rpm 320GB hardrive, and stuck the WD 5400rpm 250GB into my PS3.
OLD M1530:
Optiarc DVD+/-RW drive (SUPER NOISY)
Samsung 5400rpm 250GB harddrive
MADE IN CHINA 6-Cell battery
Cheaper Heatsink Assembly (Metal alloy transfer surfaces)
NEW M1530:
Matsh1ta DVD+/-RW drive (PRETTY QUIET)
WD 5400rpm 250GB hardrive
MADE IN JAPAN 6-Cell batter
Better Heatsink Assembly (Copper transfer surfaces)
The heatsink assembly is a big deal because we all know these things can get pretty hot, and we all know that copper has very good heat transfer properties. On the old M1530, the transfer surface is copper ONLY FOR THE CPU, leaving the GPU and Chipset with some metal alloy. Well the new M1530 I received have copper for all the transfer surfaces! COPPER IS BETTER!
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Nov 7, 2009
So as far as I know fan behavior can be determined or changed via the following:
1) The bios determines behavior and it can be changed if the bios supports such features
2) Through software that can monitor and change fan behavior such as SpeedFan.
3) Through hardware such as a fan controller, where the user can control the voltage that reaches a fan, thus the speed.
I recently changed my heatsink/fan unit on my M1530 and the fan does this annoying "speed up cool down and stop then heat up" cycle rather than retain a constant temperature.
I dont want the 10C cool/heat cycles to constantly wear down my components. Someone told me that the fan on my old heatsink/fan unit would not have variable speeds like that and retain a constant temperature and speed.
I can not tell from the past as the heatsink was terrible and the temperatures where always high (thus the fan was constantly going full blast).
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Dec 3, 2009
I am thinking of just getting a nut and bolt to try to fix this problem, anyone have any ideas for a quick fix? Attached is a picture
btw: I tried superglue to glue the screw hole back on and let it dry overnight before putting the heatsink on.
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Aug 20, 2009
I've been reading through the "Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS - Copper Mod" thread (must admit not all gazillion pages...), and I was wondering if this mod would be possible for the Studio XPS16 as well, since the M1330 uses an Nvidia GPU, whereas the SXPS16 uses an ATI GPU. And, if it were, would it be beneficial?
How would one go about the mod then? Is the procedure similar to the M1330 mod described in the thread?
Link to the thread: Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS - Copper Mod
One more question: The pictures in the thread show three large chips under the heatsink; one is the CPU, the other one is the GPU, but what is the 3rd one? Southbridge?
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Sep 10, 2009
So the technician is coming and I need to reverse the copper mod (I have a M1330). I'm not very good at this, so I need your help:
1) Basically, I just need to follow the same instructions for the copper mod, but this time using the foam square, right? Is there something else I should take into account?
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May 7, 2010
I've recently had one of my D620's fail on me due to overheating GPU, and now that I've given it to a family member, I've been thinking about what I could do to help the issue,
as she watches quite a bit of TV shows on YouTube and GPU temperatures shoot up to 170F or so even with the back of the laptop jacked up. My D630 hovers around 150F just doing office-type work .....
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Mar 19, 2010
What other things can i do to prevent overheating? I can't do the copper mod as it will be under warranty.
Depending on temps when i get it i will probably change the thermal paste with some arctic silver. I'll also undervolt the cpu and the gpu but will this be enough? I'm also looking at a cooling platform and i have a griffin stand which will get some air underneath it. Depends how hot it gets under load but are there any other tweaks i can perform or mods to improve cooling that wouldn't void the warranty?
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Nov 16, 2009
My motherboard was replaced couple of days ago by DELL technician (GPU problem). Now with new mobo I have GPU temps uder stress up to 100C. Its too much I think. My question is what is your temperatures?
I'm thinking also about copper mod of cooling system, but not sure about thikness of the copper shim for D630, I know that for XPS1330 it is 1.5mm ..
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Jan 16, 2010
Hi, have just bought a Studio 1557 off eBay, but only after buying (not yet received) did I read various forum comments, here and elsewhere, about overheating issues (especially for the GPU, the HD 4570).
I want my laptop to last years (hopeful, aren't I!). I've read that several members have managed to put a copper shim (with thermal paste either side) between the chip and its heatsink and successfully lowered operating temps. that way, but can't find any mention of exact dimensions for the shim!
There are a couple of sellers on eBay that offer copper shims for laptop chips but they don't appear to have a stock one for the Studio 1557; they are willing to make one to measure, if I can supply dimensions, i.e. size and thickness.
I'd be grateful if anyone who's successfully fitted a copper shim to the GPU, in particular, of their Studio 1557 could post the exact dimensions, obviously including thickness, of the shim.
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Jan 4, 2009
I just stumbled accross the thread about modding some dell with an 8400M GS vidcard, I was wondering if this also applied to sony as well.. or they did a good job adding thermal compoung to the heatsink.
I just wanted to know if any of you did some mod, if it's really necessary or my GPU will melt slowly while I game.
Some guy said about placing a copper sheet in between the heatsink and the gpu.. but I still don't get how much pressure should be applied when bolting the screws.
On the other hand has anyone mod their 8400 M GT to say a 8600 using rivatuner..
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May 7, 2010
i believe many of u experience gpu reaching near 100 degrees when gaming, causing laptop to jus turn off by itself.
a gd news here..copper shim solve the problem, which means it lower down temp to prevent tat from happening.
received copper shim in my mailbox yesterday.
thickness is 0.044", 1.11mm, 0.1cm
size is 0.75", 19.05mm, 1.9cm (kind of too big for gpu, becos the seller hav tat size for tat thickness, but nvm, look below)
wat i do next is to use a sand paper(fine one, not rough one), i use 1000cw since i had tat at home. lazy to go out to get more fine one.
do it on a flat surface, sand until like mirror effect.
now proceed to dismantle the whole laptop.
it seems tat the heatsink is too small for tat copper shim, but no need to worry, the surrounding alum is a little lower than tat copper.
using Arctic Cooling MX-2. apply on both cpu, gpu, n on copper shim after placing over gpu.
Stress test results
*Ambient Temperature: 32 degrees
Before copper mod, wit default thermal pad. i immediately stop the test b4 it blackout.
After thermal pad was replaced by Copper Shim.
temperature was still steady at 88 degrees after 11mins!
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Feb 9, 2009
Have finally got Dell to agree to replace my motherboard (my 3rd in 18 months), but they say I also need a new heatsink/fan to fix my overheating GPU problems (100 degrees + under load).
They are doing the motherboard under warranty, but refusing to pay for the heatsink. According to them, the two issues are not connected...
My question is, is there any point having the heatsink replaced if it's just going to be the same defective component?
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Sep 14, 2009
I took pictures of a refurb E6500 I got from the outlet (Regal Red) and my new E6500 (black).
They appear to have different heatsinks, with the new one having a larger one
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Feb 18, 2010
I should have said microprocessing cooling unit, not heatsink!
My Dell Vostro 1400 laptop has been running hotter with age (it's two years old). About 5 minutes after startup the core temp hits 50-60C, the fan kicks in, the core goes down to 30C, the fan kicks off. This cycle occurs about every 5 minutes or so. I've cleaned the fan area thoroughly and am using i8kfanGUI. I'm wondering if replacing the microprocessing cooling unit will help keep the core temp down. They're pretty cheap, about £15 on eBay. Here's what I'm looking at:
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What do you guys think? Will a new microprocessing cooling unit make a significant difference in keeping down my core temp?
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Apr 9, 2009
I tried but there is a small gap so I had to stick with the thermal pad. I'm not sure whether AS5 would do a better job of cooling considering the design. I'm just wondering if anyone was successful in eliminating the gap and noticed improved cooling.
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Jun 24, 2009
Above the two types of cooling units with standard heatsinks of the M1330 XPS
M1330 XPS Heatsink Mod by BlackRussian.
This mod is to provide a better cooling system on my Dell M1330 XPS laptops which already has a cooper plate on video chip.
The main mod is concentrated around the nVidia video chip, the CPU will be done at a later date for all you overclockers out there!
3x Aluminum Heatsink. I use a heatsink taken from an old desktop PC motherboard and cut/file to size.(Chipset or Video card)
1x L 38mm x H 6mm x D 11mm for the bigger heatsink and 1x L 38mm x H 6mm x D 8mm for smaller heatsink.
1x Thermal paste (AS5 etc to your fancy)
1x Thermal adhesive kit (Aritic SilverThermal adhesive) Warning! See foot note below.
1x Copper plate.
Cleaning agents (Pure alcohol or something like Aceton) , cotton face wipe..
1x Junior hacksaw
Set of flat files
Clean work area.
Oven. (Preheat on high temp 5mins before placing cooling unit inside oven)
Set of screwdrivers size #0 and #00 Philips or Pozidriv
Optional tools. 2 mini G clamps
Thermal adhesive Do not use this product on your CPU or Video chip as it will bond to it and you will not be able to remove the thermal adhesive once it set's on the chips without damaging the chips.
Measurements had been taken with the cooling unit still in place and allowing enough space from Ram cards & base plate inner edge for removing the final cooling unit. See
All done and back in my M1330 XPS laptop photo.
Once you have your heatsinks cut/filed and cleaned to the right size maximum height 7mm (5.5mm should be used to be on the safe side otherwise final adjustment with a flat file will correct any over high problem) we need to open up our laptop.
Before under going any services to your laptop make sure that you ground yourself or be very careful of static change while workings on your Laptop refer to your handbook or service manual.....................
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Feb 27, 2008
I'm buying either a FX2500m or 7900GTX so I'll need the heatsink to complete the mod of course.
Is there anyway to tell if I already have the heatsink without dismantling my laptop and peeking inside? (I know if I have a dual-pipe card I'd of course have it, just wondering if there was a way to assume). I have a 7800GS in this thing so I'm not 100% sure if it's a single pipe with no heatsink or a dual pipe with a heatsink.
So I just wanted some opinions on if it was safe to assume that I need the heatsink. (I would rather only dismantle the laptop once, when I'm putting the heatsink and card into it, figured some people who have opened them up a few times would know if I'm more likely to have a single pipe or dual).
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Mar 6, 2010
does anyone know if the nvidia (9600GS) chip and the cpu are on the same heatsink on the vostro 1720?
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Mar 23, 2010
Dell just upgraded my faulty 9500m mother board to the latest rev with the G 210M. Problem is the old heatsink and fan combo (part number U943D) will no longer fit as the screw post location has changed.
Images below reflect the changes.
1st 1340 w/9500m with dell part #U943D
2nd 1340 w/G210m (just cant read Part#)
3rd My mainbaord and fan the tech said would work (without a heatsink on gpu. Yeah I know.. )
If you look close the heatsink right under the fan (and fan is different too) is different on the right side as the screw moves up.
Can anyone with the G210m give me the part number of the fan and heatsink?
Dell for the life of them cant figure it out and have sent the wrong parts 4 times already. Its really getting frustrating. Any and all part numbers or High detailed readable pictures would be greatly apreciated!!!
-= The part has been identified!! Dell Part#C755T =-. See post #11 for more info
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Jul 19, 2009
I have onsite....When they sent the Technician to replace the Motherboard before, it took him less than an hour.
How long do you think it will take to replace the Motherboard, Heatsink/GPU/Fan..on my 1530? They are also bringing me a new AC.
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Jul 11, 2009
Does anyone know how to figure out what model is my heatsink, or where to buy them? i looked in ebay but can't find it.
i noticed that my laptop kept running hotter and hotter until i decided to look if the fanswhere even working and saw that the heat sink fan is not moving.
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Mar 8, 2013
My Vostro V130 is overheating on heatsink and video out port. I open, clean thermal paste, add new thermal paste and the problem continues.
I change the OS to Windows 8 Pro.
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Oct 20, 2009
This thread will document my attempts at improving the cooling of my Dell studio 1737
Heat Sources:
Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 (2.10GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB L2/45nm/35W TDP)
ATI 2650HD 512MB
Intel GM45 Chipset
2xWD Blue 500GB
2x2GB DDR2
Dell 370 Bluetooth 2.1 card
Dell Wireless g/n card
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Sep 1, 2008
I need a new CPU Heatsink DF031 for my 9400/E1705 but I don't have a service tag
Would anyone be willing to order me one to my address or lend me your tag info
I need this so badly my poor laptop is in pieces
any help is greatly appreciated
I live in Ontario so anyone in Canada would probably work out best
anyone intersested in doing this for me will be compensated via paypal
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May 19, 2009
Just wanted to give this info for M1210 owners out there because I found it pretty interesting.
I recently changed my M1210's thermal assembly, new motherboard (due to failed Go7400), and the new one I obtained to replace it was a new revision, A02... the old one I removed is A00, so it seems there have been two design changes to the heatsink since my computer was assembled.
I haven't been able to identify any other differences yet, but one obvious difference is that it uses a different heatpipe .....
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Jan 22, 2008
I currently have a laptop that's going to be replaced. It's the E1705 with the 1.83ghz and ati x1400 video card. I've had numerous problems with it (MB, speakers, lcd screen, heatsink) and dell is granting me a replacement. Being that I only have the ATI x1400, I guess I don't have too much leverage in negotiations.
I asked the Tech rep what laptop I would be getting and he responded with, "Are you looking for a better laptop?" I didn't want to sound too greedy so I just replied "I just one with a DVI port" lol. Then, he replied with no problem. Then I got the classic response: "You'll get one that is most likely similar components or better." Did I act incorrectly by not being greedy. Should I have said "Yes, I want a better laptop!!"
Also, if I insist that a DVI port is basically required and one of the main reasons why I got the E1705 in the first place, what other laptop options could they try and replace me with? One of the reasons I said I insist on it having DVI is because the current model E1720 does not have a dvi port. I'm actually hoping for the Dell M1710 or M1730
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Mar 12, 2010
I've purchased a new (refurbished) 1545 motherboard H314N with ATI Radeon onboard video for my son's laptop. I will install, but first I need to find the proper heatsink, as the boards do not come with the component. Â I cannot find the heatsink, let alone a part number. does Dell sell these to consumers direct? since I cannot do the upgrade without the proper heatsink. Â It is not part number M274K...that is for Intel graphics.
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May 19, 2009
I would like the aluminum palm rests. But to me it makes the surface kind of slippery..
I have to put more effort in keeping my palms on the surface. Am I just being to picky or have others felt this?..
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Sep 16, 2008
I have noticed this for awhile now, but I have been able to ignore it previously due to the problem being discrete and im not a very picky person. But as time went on this has gone far worse than i thought. As you can see in the 3 images i have attached below there is severe discoloration of the aluminum palm rests/base pieces of my xps laptop in the form of an imprint of a human hand.
The print on the left is the worst and the prints to the right of the touch pad are a little bit better. I have only owned this laptop for roughly 8 month and i dont even use the laptop that much everyday.
I really dont feel like calling dell support again cause i just called them to replace my faulty screen 2 weeks ago and i really dont know how a Dell technician can come to my house and fix this unless he replace the whole base.
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