Dell :: E1705 Problems With MB, Speakers, Lcd Screen, Heatsink
Jan 22, 2008
I currently have a laptop that's going to be replaced. It's the E1705 with the 1.83ghz and ati x1400 video card. I've had numerous problems with it (MB, speakers, lcd screen, heatsink) and dell is granting me a replacement. Being that I only have the ATI x1400, I guess I don't have too much leverage in negotiations.
I asked the Tech rep what laptop I would be getting and he responded with, "Are you looking for a better laptop?" I didn't want to sound too greedy so I just replied "I just one with a DVI port" lol. Then, he replied with no problem. Then I got the classic response: "You'll get one that is most likely similar components or better." Did I act incorrectly by not being greedy. Should I have said "Yes, I want a better laptop!!"
Also, if I insist that a DVI port is basically required and one of the main reasons why I got the E1705 in the first place, what other laptop options could they try and replace me with? One of the reasons I said I insist on it having DVI is because the current model E1720 does not have a dvi port. I'm actually hoping for the Dell M1710 or M1730
I'm buying either a FX2500m or 7900GTX so I'll need the heatsink to complete the mod of course.
Is there anyway to tell if I already have the heatsink without dismantling my laptop and peeking inside? (I know if I have a dual-pipe card I'd of course have it, just wondering if there was a way to assume). I have a 7800GS in this thing so I'm not 100% sure if it's a single pipe with no heatsink or a dual pipe with a heatsink.
So I just wanted some opinions on if it was safe to assume that I need the heatsink. (I would rather only dismantle the laptop once, when I'm putting the heatsink and card into it, figured some people who have opened them up a few times would know if I'm more likely to have a single pipe or dual).
I purchase a Dell E1705 in August of 2006 and it was a great computer until around August of 2008. What started happening is the screen would go blank or when you turned the computer on the computer would start to load and then present a blank screen.
The BIOS is updated and the battery is fine. Since the screen problem I've had Dell replace the motherboard 3 times, the video card twice, and the LCD panel twice.
Actually when the technician installed the last LCD screen and tested it the screen didn't work but when he put the old one in it did work. I kept telling him it was the video card and not the LCD panel. Turns out I was right. Thankfully my computer is under warrenty until August 2010 but I'd rather eat dog crap then deal with Dell support again. They're useless!! If I ask for their assistance this will be the FOURTH time in a little over a year and a half. Oh, and by the way, I am very carful with these machines .....
so last night my wife was on my laptop and she went to her friends myspace page. She scrolled down the page and clicked onto background wallpaper on accident and all of a sudden the screen started flashing, the song that was playing on the page started cutting in and out. When the screen was up she tried to close the webpage etc but the system kept cutting out. I told her to just hard power down the system. Problem is when she tried to start it back up there is no bios/dell splash screen. It looks like the monitor screen powers up and I can see the power light on the case, but there is nothing else. I hooked it up to an external monitor and that monitor powered up and didn't give a no signal error so it must be getting fed something.
Does this sound like the bios on the mobo got hosed? Does it sound like a video card problem (i have an fx2500 with 130watt psu)? If I contact dell, do you guys think the tech who shows up will slam me for the video card and void what's left of my warranty?
After a few years of good service, I noticed a white vertical patch about ½" thick on my E1705 yesterday. It's always there whenever the screen is on.
I haven't connected the laptop to an external monitor yet to completely rule out graphics card issue, but it seems like a screen issue to me. Last year I had a graphics card issue (garbled screen) and Dell replaced it under warranty but it's out of warranty this time ......
I should have said microprocessing cooling unit, not heatsink!
My Dell Vostro 1400 laptop has been running hotter with age (it's two years old). About 5 minutes after startup the core temp hits 50-60C, the fan kicks in, the core goes down to 30C, the fan kicks off. This cycle occurs about every 5 minutes or so. I've cleaned the fan area thoroughly and am using i8kfanGUI. I'm wondering if replacing the microprocessing cooling unit will help keep the core temp down. They're pretty cheap, about £15 on eBay. Here's what I'm looking at: [url]
What do you guys think? Will a new microprocessing cooling unit make a significant difference in keeping down my core temp?
I tried but there is a small gap so I had to stick with the thermal pad. I'm not sure whether AS5 would do a better job of cooling considering the design. I'm just wondering if anyone was successful in eliminating the gap and noticed improved cooling.
Above the two types of cooling units with standard heatsinks of the M1330 XPS
M1330 XPS Heatsink Mod by BlackRussian.
This mod is to provide a better cooling system on my Dell M1330 XPS laptops which already has a cooper plate on video chip. The main mod is concentrated around the nVidia video chip, the CPU will be done at a later date for all you overclockers out there!
3x Aluminum Heatsink. I use a heatsink taken from an old desktop PC motherboard and cut/file to size.(Chipset or Video card) 1x L 38mm x H 6mm x D 11mm for the bigger heatsink and 1x L 38mm x H 6mm x D 8mm for smaller heatsink. 1x Thermal paste (AS5 etc to your fancy) 1x Thermal adhesive kit (Aritic SilverThermal adhesive) Warning! See foot note below. 1x Copper plate. Cleaning agents (Pure alcohol or something like Aceton) , cotton face wipe.. 1x Junior hacksaw Set of flat files Clean work area. Oven. (Preheat on high temp 5mins before placing cooling unit inside oven) Set of screwdrivers size #0 and #00 Philips or Pozidriv Optional tools. 2 mini G clamps
Thermal adhesive Do not use this product on your CPU or Video chip as it will bond to it and you will not be able to remove the thermal adhesive once it set's on the chips without damaging the chips.
Measurements had been taken with the cooling unit still in place and allowing enough space from Ram cards & base plate inner edge for removing the final cooling unit. See All done and back in my M1330 XPS laptop photo. Once you have your heatsinks cut/filed and cleaned to the right size maximum height 7mm (5.5mm should be used to be on the safe side otherwise final adjustment with a flat file will correct any over high problem) we need to open up our laptop.
Before under going any services to your laptop make sure that you ground yourself or be very careful of static change while workings on your Laptop refer to your handbook or service manual.....................
I received a new M1530 because the one I received have a couple of cosmetic flaws that were due to poor worksmanship (dents, scratches, etc.). I've been playing and comparing these two M1530's and I've noticed several things. My old M1530 came with the Optiarc DVD+/-RW drive and the new M1530 came with a Matsh1ta DVD+/-RW drive. I know a lot of people have complained about the DVD drive being noisy. Well.. the Matsh1ta drive is quiet! The Optiarc drive is super noisy. On to more things.. The old M1530 came with a Samsung 5400rpm 250GB harddrive, the new M1530 came with a WD 5400rpm 250GB hardrive.
None of that matters though because it has been replaced by a Seagate 7200rpm 320GB hardrive, and stuck the WD 5400rpm 250GB into my PS3.
OLD M1530: Optiarc DVD+/-RW drive (SUPER NOISY) Samsung 5400rpm 250GB harddrive MADE IN CHINA 6-Cell battery Cheaper Heatsink Assembly (Metal alloy transfer surfaces)
NEW M1530: Matsh1ta DVD+/-RW drive (PRETTY QUIET) WD 5400rpm 250GB hardrive MADE IN JAPAN 6-Cell batter Better Heatsink Assembly (Copper transfer surfaces)
The heatsink assembly is a big deal because we all know these things can get pretty hot, and we all know that copper has very good heat transfer properties. On the old M1530, the transfer surface is copper ONLY FOR THE CPU, leaving the GPU and Chipset with some metal alloy. Well the new M1530 I received have copper for all the transfer surfaces! COPPER IS BETTER!
Dell just upgraded my faulty 9500m mother board to the latest rev with the G 210M. Problem is the old heatsink and fan combo (part number U943D) will no longer fit as the screw post location has changed.
Images below reflect the changes. 1st 1340 w/9500m with dell part #U943D 2nd 1340 w/G210m (just cant read Part#) 3rd My mainbaord and fan the tech said would work (without a heatsink on gpu. Yeah I know.. )
If you look close the heatsink right under the fan (and fan is different too) is different on the right side as the screw moves up.
Can anyone with the G210m give me the part number of the fan and heatsink? Dell for the life of them cant figure it out and have sent the wrong parts 4 times already. Its really getting frustrating. Any and all part numbers or High detailed readable pictures would be greatly apreciated!!!
-= The part has been identified!! Dell Part#C755T =-. See post #11 for more info
So as far as I know fan behavior can be determined or changed via the following:
1) The bios determines behavior and it can be changed if the bios supports such features 2) Through software that can monitor and change fan behavior such as SpeedFan. 3) Through hardware such as a fan controller, where the user can control the voltage that reaches a fan, thus the speed.
I recently changed my heatsink/fan unit on my M1530 and the fan does this annoying "speed up cool down and stop then heat up" cycle rather than retain a constant temperature.
I dont want the 10C cool/heat cycles to constantly wear down my components. Someone told me that the fan on my old heatsink/fan unit would not have variable speeds like that and retain a constant temperature and speed.
I can not tell from the past as the heatsink was terrible and the temperatures where always high (thus the fan was constantly going full blast).
Just wanted to give this info for M1210 owners out there because I found it pretty interesting.
I recently changed my M1210's thermal assembly, new motherboard (due to failed Go7400), and the new one I obtained to replace it was a new revision, A02... the old one I removed is A00, so it seems there have been two design changes to the heatsink since my computer was assembled.
I haven't been able to identify any other differences yet, but one obvious difference is that it uses a different heatpipe .....
I've purchased a new (refurbished) 1545 motherboard H314N with ATI Radeon onboard video for my son's laptop. I will install, but first I need to find the proper heatsink, as the boards do not come with the component. Â I cannot find the heatsink, let alone a part number. does Dell sell these to consumers direct? since I cannot do the upgrade without the proper heatsink. Â It is not part number M274K...that is for Intel graphics.
i just took apart my laptop yesterday to change my cpu on it. i was running T7500 and changed it to T8300 and man.... that T8300 is so cool. with AS5 my idle temps are down to 25-27*C thats a HUGE jump from my old T7500 which was a mini baking oven.
but anyways.... it took me 3 hours to take everything apart watching videos videos on hp.com but onc ei took it apart, i looked at the HSF and man its one of the weakest hsf i've seen. the only part thats copper is just a tiny square base thats on top of cpu. everything else is crap. and there were some pads on the end of the hsf to i guess cool the little things on the side. (forgot what they were called) i wanted to apply the AS5 to all the places that the pads were touching, but that part of the HFS was not copper. i'm not sure what it was.
i'm sure everyone that ever replaced cpu on the DV9000 had taken the whole laptop apart... have you guys ever thought about replacing the HSF with an aftermarket HSF thats better than the stock? i tried searching and found none that were any better than the stock. none of them are all copper.
and i did not want to put AS5 on the other things that has that white/beige pad on, since the bottom of the HSF looked weak and i did not want to fry the chips/what ever the pads were supposed to cool... can you guys help me find a better HSF for the laptop? or that stock crappy hsf is the best/only thing for me?
I spoke with a Dell technician and they told me that the reason my computer was randomly shutting off was because it was overheating and that I needed to replace my heatsink and fan, each costing around $12. I was wondering if buying a notebook cooler might be a better way to go. Any notebook coolers that anyone recommends?
Finally, does anyone know what a technician would charge to replace a heatsink and fan?
I downloaded a program called speedfan and it gives me the following temperatures on my notebook:
HD0: 45C Temp1: 84C Core0: 63C Core1: 63C
Core temperatures moved up while computer was put to heavier use if it makes any difference:
Core 0: 76C Core 1: 74C
Anyone know if this is normal? Computer isn't working too hard right now.
on this 2 heatsink above, different would be the heatpipe near the end. but the end part heatsink on my laptop mainboard below is the nvidia graphics.
so would the "missing" heatpipe causes big difference in temperature? (this 2 heatsink is stated on the web that it is compatible for my model) when i was playing game, graphics temp could hit 80 to 90. i'm very scare tat the graphics would up lorry again.:mad: current heatsink is the 1st pic which heatpipe is extend to the end.
i hav it disassembled(thanks to Andy for the youtube vid). this is the heatsink after i hav send it for repair.(i knw they change the whole board). but there hav several layer of copper pad.
now wat shld i do to bring down the temp? i hav jus apply thermal grease to it. but the temp no difference.