Sony :: Z, 330M And Overheating
Jan 19, 2010
I owned previous Z with P8400 and it was very hot when 100% loaded with 3D-applications (3DMark or games) in speed mode. It is known to overheat with T9900 as well. Now Z uses GT 330M which outputs almost twice as much heat as 9300M GS (I wouldn't count i5 because it has same TDP as Core 2 Duo). Other manufacturers aren't putting 330M in such a small enclosure mainly due to thermal limitations.
Sony posted few images showing its heatsink and fan. I don't see significant changes in cooling system and I'm sick of that.
I don't want to pay premium price and then find 330M unusable due to overheating.
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Feb 21, 2010
I really like the look of the cw26 that best buy has for $950
I am also waiting for the n82, but i think the cw series is great with the blu ray
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Apr 16, 2010
I posted this in the main thread (where it got instantly buried in the message avalanche)
Question regarding the gt330m
I could swear that the very first time I fired up SecondLife on the Z, that it recognized the gt330m and used it. Also, I'm pretty sure I checked that the cpu utilization was quite low as it ran.
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Mar 9, 2010
I've just got a Sony VAIO CW2 with a GT 330M GPU and have read that the chip is throttled from the default settings.
The source is a review at http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/...w2s1-nkrt-1101, translated with Google Translate.
According to http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-...M.22437.0.html the GT 330M should run at a speed that is higher than what is reported by CPU-Z:
Core Speed: 575 MHz vs my speed of 475 MHz
Shader Speed: 1265 MHz vs my speed of 1045 MHz
Memory Speed: 1066 MHz vs my speed of 680 MHz
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Mar 11, 2010
I checked both the Canadian and US website, and they dont offer 330ms anymore, instead its 211m / 310m, and they perform at about half the ability of the 330ms
Why? It's such a huge downgrade!
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Feb 3, 2010
using this gpu in the CW or F series.
Right now I'm using Nvidia tools to oc:
650 gpu clock
800 memory
1550 shader
I have seen a max temp of 70c. I would say I'm getting on average a boost of 5-10fps.
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Jan 7, 2010
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M of the new SONY F11 can compare to which ATI GPU serie in term of perfomance?
For example, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 1 GB VS ATI 4670 1GB, which one is better?
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Apr 13, 2010
I can't seem to confirm what type of VRAM the GT 330m in the Z11 is. All specs listings seem to be inconsistent!
If someone could point me to a screenshot using GPU-Z to verify, I'd be very appreciated!
Reason I ask is it seems the new Macbook Pro 15 inch models come with GDDR3, and I have a hunch that the z11 is just DDR3.
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Apr 1, 2010
Update: NVIDIA released 197.44 drivers for notebooks(with OpenGL 4 support for Fermi GPU), GT300M only gets support up to 3.3
I used the same inf file(changing drivers' version and date, of course) and everything is working as expected.
Just follow the same instructions if you wanna try.
- 197.44 inf file and instructions: Midtown's 197.44 Instructions.zip (Mirrors: Megaupload, Hotfile)
- NVIDIA's original drivers: Download for Windows 7(64-bit)
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So I managed to install the new NVIDIA drivers for laptops, 197.16 on my VAIO F after modifying the inf file myself for a few hours. I'm no expert, but I guess it worked out fine.
Here's the link for inf file & instructions: Midtown's 197.16 Instructions.zip
Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for any hardware/software failure.
After testing the new drivers for 24hrs:
- No flicker at low brightness
- No uneven brightness after pressing the "Display Off" button
- Fan not constantly running
- "Normal" temperature compared to Sony's "certified" graphic drivers
- No problems after sleep/restart........................
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May 1, 2010
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I presume this is Windows 7-only?
I don't own a Mac (yet), so I'm unsure about how Nvidia/homebrew supports OC'ing in OSX (or if they do at all).
Needless to say, this is fantastic news for me and everyone else needing to bleed more from a GPU than what the 330M offers by default. that's almost a 30% increase right there, folks..........................
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Jan 7, 2010
Is it possible to softmod a GT 230M in a dv6 quad into a GT 330M? It would require overclocking the core by 75MHz and the shaders by 165MHz and then getting the drivers to recognize it as a GT 330M instead of a GT 230M. Reason I would want to do this is for the added performance and so that the graphics card is still the "latest generation". How hard do you think it would be to do this and how much more subjectable to overheating do you think it would be if done?
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Feb 17, 2010
seems like every other day or 2 it locks up mouse freeze and I'm forced to power down, no other choice.
Even viewer does not show anything to be the cause I just see a 6008 event id
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Apr 2, 2010
you can see here two vaio graphic cards ..
9600M GT and GT 330M
That really surprised me that 330M doesnt support DX 11
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Apr 10, 2009
i have a sony vaio sz 48..nw over d past cpl of mths ive noticed dat its gettin heated up pretty quickly nd d cpu speed has decreased...nw ders dis button by which i can reduce d cpu fan revolutions werin decreasin d cpu processin speed..nd i hve a feelin dats prob d reason y d fan has stopped wrkin ..cos i pressd it a few times widout knowin wat it does..is der neway i can change dat nd increase my fan speed?
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Apr 8, 2010
I bought a VPCF111FD about 3 months ago and on my 3rd day of purchase, my laptop froze while browsing firefox with 3 browsers open and a youtube link. The fan started to make a lot of noise and I could feel a lot of heat coming from the side grill. I had to manually shut it off.
Just last week, the problem began again when it was a warm day in the house. I was playing a video game (League of Legends) and the computer froze while the image on the screen turned purple as heat began to pour out of the machine. I freaked out and shut down the computer, and when I came back an hour later to turn it on, it would get to the Vaio screen (or Windows screen sometimes) and then just freeze as the fan picked up again. This happened several times until a message displayed saying, "The i7 processor is now booting from the factory image".
The next day, everything ran completely fine and I even tested by running Team Fortress 2 and doing CAD modelling and no freezes occured. I made sure by doing a spybot, Avast, Defragment, and System restore scans. Then today, the same thing happened with the laptop freezing while I'm playing a video game.
I think the problem is with the fans since they don't get loud until the computer freezes, but I'm not entirely sure if heat is the problem since there are days when I can game for hours on end with nothing happening.
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Apr 13, 2010
Can the New Mac's NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M equal in performance as compared to the mobile 9800GTX ? or is the 330M worst off ? what actually is the 330M's performance like ?
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Jan 22, 2009
When I watched a film the other day the laptop was actually burning me. I installed speedfan and it said the temperature was 74c
I thought well to stop it burning me I could plug it into my HDTV only to receive a BSOD 20 mins into the film claiming a video card failure.
It still boots up fine but even on desktop idiling its still at 60cand gets hotter still when doing basic tasks
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Nov 8, 2009
Recently I purchased a Sony Vaio VGN-SZ750n, and I've noticed that this computer runs VERY VERY hot.
The GPU runs at about 60 degrees celcius
The Two cores are running at about 52-55 degrees celcius.
The program I'm using to check the temperatures is Speedfan.
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Feb 5, 2009
I'm pretty sure this has to be a common problem but so far I haven't been able to dig up substantial information about it, although I've found scattered evidence. Just over the 1 year mark and the 1 year warranty expiration for my Vaio VGN-FE890, it started running dramatically warmer, and when running intensive programs it would get extremely hot.
Specifically, it's the right 2/3's of the laptop that gets the hottest, with it getting hotter the farthest to the right. The laptop was originally very cool during the first year, so the change was easily noticeable when it happened.
I can easily hear the CPU fan going all the time when it's on and warmed up, sometimes louder/faster than others, so I know it's working. I need to do some testing to be sure, but at the moment I'm not certain if it's the graphics chip that's generating the extreme heat, or if it's the processor, but it's certainly one of the two. It's definitely not the battery or the HD. It's always very hot ever since the change, but it definitely gets dramatically hotter when running processor and/or graphics intensive programs, especially 2D and 3D games (too hot too touch the underside of the laptop). Needless to say, I haven't overclocked or touched the graphics (NVidia GeForce Go 7400) chip in any way.
Not looking for random idle guesses about the source of the heat, I can do that myself, but if anybody is familiar with the problem or owns a similar model Vaio suffering from the same issue I'd be anxious to hear about it. I want to determine if this is a known, documented problem with this model and/or this graphics chip.
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May 27, 2009
I've got a european Sony Vaio Z (first generation), which seems to have some major overheating issues, especially when it's connected to an external display.
Setup:
Sony Vaio Z11VN -> Docking station -> NEC2690WUXi (running at 1920x1200)
Here's a summary of temperatures when this machine is in SPEED mode (Nvidia 9300gs) in Windows XP (idle)
GPU: 92C(198F)
HD0: 41C(106F)
Temp1: 66C(151F)
Core0: 78C(172F)
Core1: 78C(172F)
Clearly, the temperature drops if I switch to STAMINA mode, or if I unplug the laptop from the docking station, however, in the latter case the temperature drops to perhaps 70C.. so that is without running it on the external 1920x1200 display.
and when running 3d applications or games, the laptop can simply shut itself off for no reason whatsoever (overheated?)
I've heard about overheating problems of the NVIDIA GPUs.. is this such a case? (NVIDIA 9300GS)
I'd like to know if anyone else have had this problem with their Vaio Z (i've seen ppl having problems with the FZ)
My model is a VGN-Z11VN (swedish, although distributed via the UK)
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Jan 15, 2010
i have had 2 problems with my Z for a while and im fed up because its out of warranty and sony will not fix it.
1. The Right hinge i believed is messed up so it does not close correctly. Due to this the right side of the lcd bezel has become cracked on the bottom right i believe because of the tension. (check the pictures). I have to keep a clip on the right bottom side to hold the LCD in place.
2. The notebook is really really hot. Especially using the nvidia. When running any 3d game it takes less than 10 minutes for the temps to get ridiculous on the cpu and gpu. It just turns off when it gets to like 103 or something. Im not sure if its the gpu or cpu but i think they share the same copper pipe for heat. Im going to put arctic silver on both of the chips if i can and clean everything out really good.
My main issue is the hinge. Im not even sure if it is repairable. If it isnt repairable where and how should I go about getting a new Hingle and LCD bezel.
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Dec 18, 2007
I replaced the integrated video card on my computer with a 7900 GS and it's been overheating. I looked at my case, and the vents for the GPU are there, it's just that they're solid. Where the holes are, there is metal instead. Does anyone know anything I can do to knock those holes out so I can get some air in there? WoW overheats in about 15 min,
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Dec 5, 2008
My 2 month old Dell M1530 idles at the following temps:
I really don't know why... It's been like this for a couple weeks or more now. Power settings are all on max of course... But when I first got the laptop, it'd idle pretty cool... Now my hands sweat while typing :
Laptop is not overclocked (I did overclock a bit in October for Crysis now and then)
My room is pretty cold.
I'm going to open it up and look for dust... But I really doubt this is the problem.
Specs:
Intel T9300
8600M GT 256Mb DDR3
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Feb 23, 2010
I have sent my laptop off 3 times to HP to have it repaired and its just came back and is running at 197.6 degrees when playing 720p videos. It got hot enough to char a piece of paper that was sitting next to it on my desk, almost starting a fire if I wasn't there.
The kicker is this laptop was given to me by hp a year and a half ago as a replacement for another overheating laptop. I am now told they don't replace laptops. So I cant call up my credit card company and say I received a lemon, or go back to the store and say you sold me a lemon, as it was given to me by HP.
The case managers have been EXTREMELY rude. Essentially calling me stupid and that im not qualified to diagnose the computer, even though Im a computer technician by trade and have been building computers since I was 9 years old.
IS my only options small claims court? is there anyway to get ahold of anyone higher than their case managers? they claim there isnt. Is there a way to get ahold of the board or ceo?
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Aug 14, 2009
i own a DV7 laptop and when im just surfing the net with mozilla the temp goes up to 180 degrees F. the 1 year warranty is not up yet so curious if other owners have had this issue?? is it suppost to be this hot? seems very hott to me? i havent tried any games yet but thinking bout it.
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May 26, 2010
The problem:
as many dv5 owners know, this HP series has a little problem with overheating.
The laptop has a small aperture for air circulation just below the exhaust vent: the fan takes fresh air from the aperture and then push out warm air.
Many people noted that the aperture is too small but its position is also problematic because when you put the laptop on a desk, the air stream is reduced so much that the heat cannot be dissipated correctly. This leads to very high temperatures under high loads that sometimes causes the laptop to shutdown itself to prevent damage.
Now one solution is to raise the laptop a bit, to allow better cooling.
My findings:
Dissecting my laptop I found a very interesting thing.
In the upper left corner of the laptop there's the fan that cools down the whole thing.
The fan is very near to the upper left corner of the keyboard too, and the notebook chassis has a hole to let the fan aspire more air from the upside.
You may say that's good, the fan is getting fresh air from the keyboard too, right?
Wrong. The keyboard on its back has a thin plastic coverage that prevents the air flow!
The solution:
So, armed wih a cutter, I delicately made a cut on this plastic coverage film near the upper left angle and then I removed the cutted piece from the back of the keyboard (there are some glue strips that fix it for better adherence).
To be precise, when I say "upper left angle" I suppose you have your keyboard in front of you (near the ESC key to be pratical). Since you need to cut the *rear* coverage plastic, it becomes the upper right angle. Just always take the ESC key as a placeholder!
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Feb 1, 2009
I have recently purchased the HDx 16.
I installed 'Speedfan' to monitor the cpu and gpu temps..
Idle temps for the gpu are around the 62-65 C mark which to me seems too much given that I'm not doing any graphic intensive work.
If I set the fans to turn on permanently in bios settings then idle temp goes down to 50C .
I havent done any gaming yet so cant comment on intensive use temps.
Can anyone else share their thoughts on this since I get the feeling that my laptop is overheating.
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Oct 9, 2008
I currently own a dell laptop and have the problem of it overheating very quickly as opposed to other laptops I have used. Is this a normal occurance or could it be a problem with my personal notebook.
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Mar 2, 2009
my computer isXPS M1530 with GeForce 8600m gt. When I play a game named Gunz, which is supposed to not be a graphic-intensive game, my pc will simply go black after a certain time(vary between 10 min - hours). Then, the sound of pc just stop.
I thought this is a overheating problem, but after viewing some threads about overheating, it seems like that overheat only lead to a shut down or a restart. Since my computer simply go black and turn off, I don't know if my pc is overheating. Can someone tell me if Im overheating? If not, what's causing these crashes?
Btw, my GPU and ACPI temp were around 83C five min before my computer crashes...
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May 1, 2009
Just got my E6400 from Dell Outlet today and i noticed it's running noticeably hot.
I've read some of the posts on the nvidia overheating problem so I decided to run the same tests other people did. The screenshot is after running 3DMark2006 on Balanced power setting.
Are those temps ok? I talked to a rep who acknowledged the potential problem with the nvidia chipset and said if i send this to the depot now they can take a look at the mobo, cpu and gpu and have it back to me in less than 10 regular days.
Since I have finals coming up, I'd much rather not send it in unless they offer me onsite or some potential freebies, which the rep refused to. So any suggestion would be much appreciated. Should I run some more tests?
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