Dell :: Currently Replacing 9400/1710 With M1710
Jul 27, 2007
My laptop was in a car accident and the bottom chassis cracked open, it still works but long story short I'm getting a replacement. I was scared I would get one of the new 17" models with the POS 8600 card but to my relief my approval went throuh today, I just verified it and its an identically speced M1710 to my 9400.
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Jan 25, 2008
I have a high end speced Inspiron 9400:
2.13 core 2 duo, 2gig ram, 100gig 7200 rpm hd, 1920x1600 true life screen, 7800go gfx which I purchased in June 2006. I am in the UK so this cost me £1100 from the Dell outlet.
During December 2007 it has had 4 service calls where the motherboard, graphics card, and lcd have been changed 4 times with the same fault occurring (lines on lcd).
Dell have kindly agreed at my request to swap the laptop for a new 9400, but as the 9400 is no longer in production Dell said they will give me a similar spec 1720 instead, which was nice of them and I agreed. Here is the spec for the 1720:
2.2gig cpu, 2gig ram, 160 5400rpm hd, 8600 gfx, 1920x1600 lcd.
All seemed fine but slower hd which I can live with (just about).
I then started doing some research and discovered the 8600 is slower than the 7800 I had? and the laptop has no DVI port! I used to connect the 9400 to my external montior and sometimes my HD TV using the DVI and will miss it dearly on the 1720.
Would it be unreasonable for me to ask for a higher spec machine over the 1720?
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Oct 16, 2009
I have an M1710, and I hate the look of the grey keyboard. I've alreayd purchased an M170 palmrest, but the M170 keyboard doesn't work in my M1710.
Does the 9400 keyboard simply plug into the M1710?
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Nov 27, 2007
I know a few folks here have posted about their Inspiron 9400 to a M1710 XPS mod but I would like to post my own as well.
Here are pics of my system half way modded:
I have the M1710 black colored XPS lid coming within a few days.
The palmrest is in new cond.No wear what so ever or scratches.
The power button cover is in new cond.Both the palmrest and the power button cover was bought on saturday from Dell Parts and I got it today,tuesday.Free S/H from Dell.I know
I paid a little more than some for the plamrest but it is in new cond so I cant go wrong.
Dell P/Nassembly,cover,hinge,plastic M1710-d/p:CF426-$56.00
assembly,palmrest,plastic,M1710-d/p:FFO84-$10.99
The XPS M1710 black cover was bought on Ebay for$40.00 with S/H and guy's screenname is "TEX-JET"and he says is A+ cond.Currently waiting on delivery.
I am lastly later going to buy a silver XPS M1710 keyboard.Soon
I will update the pics when I get the XPS M1710 lid received and I have a chance to put it on.
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Jan 11, 2008
i have dell e1705 1,8 dual core 2 gb ram it its possible to swop 7900 gs go with 6800 ultra go? ,to XPS m1710? (bios flashed) right now i have 7400pts on 3dmark05 , when i play gpu of 7900 its to hot like 80C:/ i tray instal new drivers but i have error....i tray use fan non stop but work just sometimes:/
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Aug 21, 2007
here's my setup below so far. Am modding it slowly into an XPS M1710 look a like, have the keyboard, just waiting on the LCD top and palmrest with XPS in the mouse pad. I managed to get the black XPS LCD cover too, but for now I have the chequerplate look that mine came with. Much prefer the silver keyboard to the black, and it has a nicer feel than the black one to type on.
External HD's are 2x small 80GB Lacies which are for portable work, and the big one is an Iomega 500GB. I'm a photographer and web desginer by trade so the more space I have the better.
Let me know your thoughts. p.s not sure how to get pics up smaller ?? so hope there not too big.
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Dec 1, 2007
My friend just told me he heard this was true. Can anyone confirm? I know there are 2 different brands of LCDs floating around in the E1705/9400. A Samsung model, and a Phillips. However he claimed that the M1710 used one different than the E1705/9400, and was a blazing 30% brighter.
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Sep 23, 2009
I'm just about to pull my dead 7950 GTX and send it off for repair ... they say they found the problem with this card failing and have a unique fix so we'll see. They are on Ebay if intersted.
Anyhow, I would like to replace all the thermal pads with a good thermal compound ... I was looking at IC7 synthetic diamond.
I am more than capable just never done this with my XPS M1710 so I need a guide. Question is, can all of the thermal pads be removed and replaced with IC7 or is the 1/32" gap between the memory and heatsink too much? I have read that you can fill this gap with pure copper shims but haven't found any details.
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Aug 12, 2008
My Inspiron 9400/E1705 case is getting a little banged up and I was wondering if it's possible to use a M1705 case (bezel, palmrest, base, etc). as a replacement.
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Sep 6, 2007
Well the black keyboard that comes on the 9400/E1705 is a tad bit too loud for my taste. I was thinking of swapping it out for the M1710 keyboard, if its any quieter. At least mine here on the 9400 you can hear a mile away if you're typing away, and the "Enter" key is especially noisy.
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Feb 2, 2009
I've got a problem that I can not figure out.
I've got a E1705 that I upgraded to XPS 1710 (Board, Bottom Plastics, Top LCD Top Cover, 7950GTX Video card and Palm Rest...etc....)
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May 26, 2008
is the XPS 1710 with a T7600G able to "address" all 4gb with Vista64bit?
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Feb 9, 2009
I was wondering if someone could provide some guidance with regard to which docks work with the XPS1710. When I look at the Dell retail site.........................................
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Nov 20, 2008
I'm thinking of modding my i9300 to accept a 1710 mobo-- if I buy a motherboard with integrated graphics, will I be able to add a graphics card later on and disable the integrated graphics through bios, or does integrated graphics preclude adding a card later on?
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Sep 25, 2008
I bought a Dell XPS from a friend of mine and the motherboard packed it in, what kind of motherboard is in the XPS 1710. I want to buy one so I can get this machine up and running again.
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Apr 2, 2009
I still have to say I still love my laptop my XPS 1710....I took a plunge and rather upgrade my Laptop this time I picked up a XPS 730 with the Q9650 Extream With 2X280 9900GTX SLI with blueray burner and a 24 inch widescreen display.
Theese 2 my XPS 1710 & 730 both black look awsome but doesnt leave much room on my desk tho and I have a pretty big desk but no way im gonna tuck my laptop away somewhere. I guess Old habits are hard to break but as I said still love my 1710.
Just curious of the performance playing crysis on the 1730 im looking hard at the 1730 upgrade from my 1710 but want a little input from 1730 owners does it play crysis on pretty high settings and play it well ? Crysis just choked my 1710 down to where it wasn't worth playing it on my laptop.
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Oct 17, 2007
Will the keyboard out of an XPS M1710 fit, UNMODDIFIED! into an XPS M170? As in, is it a direct replacement? Asking, cause I htink the all silver look woul be cool.
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Nov 15, 2008
how can i remove the hd for xps1710.
my screens gone blank and was ready for blind flash.
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May 30, 2010
I've had an XPS 1710 for 3.5 years and am itching for an upgrade, but I'm doing my best to wait for the xps16 refresh. I'm started to get a bit irritated with the speed of my 160gb 5400 rpm laptop drive so I was thinking of upgrading to a SSD while I wait.
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Apr 4, 2008
Just wanted to say how much i love this laptop. I had numerous problems with my xps gen2, and when i say numerous, i mean numerous. I never got angry with dell and really only asked for the 7800 as i heard that it ran cooler. I went through 5 video cards, 3 motherboards (one had a bad nic when the tech installed) 3 processors and 2 screens (which i never really wanted or needed!) and 2 power supplies. All for overheating of the GPU past 90 celsius which i think was cooking all the other components. luckily i had a latitude c840 for a backup so didn't really miss the down-time. And actually there was only 2 times i couldn't use the laptop while the parts parade was going on... most times i just couldn't game on it for more than 5 minutes, but the 2 times it was DOWN was due to nothing but big blue bars / squares all over the screen from boot. And i'll give it up for the tech (most times it was the same nice old man) and the fact that he got the part and came to install within 1-3 days. EVERY TIME! Now if only that sort of service would be included with the AW experience...
I had a 3 year warranty on that which was transferred over to the new 1710 replacement i received a year ago.
This past month i extended my warranty (which obviously now covers my 1710) for an additional 2 years with 2 more years of complete care. Probably going to be the best $400 i've spent! Actually my company spent that as i was due to replace my laptop this year, but i love this thing so much that i don't even WANT another laptop right now. Well, i would accept a macbook pro, but that's another story!
So the point of this thread? well, there isn't one. I purchase roughly 75k in desktops and monitors each year for my company and around that again for servers and storage. Sure we've had a few issues. Hard drives lately have been failing after 3 years and we had a rash of desktop motherboards suffering from the "industry-wide" bulging capacitors that seemed to plague a good amount of PCs in 2005. Other than that, i'm very happy and ... yeah..
I LOVE MY 1710. I love it so much, that if i go for another windows machine it will probably be a precision with the 8800 card. by the time i will need another winblows machine for work, hopefully the precision will have a 19" screen with a 9800 based quadro!
By the way, the picture is of 18kfangui and let me tell you. i have my house at 69farenheit and this thing runs very cool. I blow out my fans about once a month with compressed air.
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Sep 9, 2009
I can’t enable hibernation on my laptop. I’ve reinstalled system recently and installed all (at least I hope) drivers.
If I try to enable it in dell quickset feature (tick off the option), after pressing those next, next buttons and returning back to quickset, it’s not enabled again.
If I try it in windows power options, I keep getting message “the file cannot be access because it’s being used by another process”
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Nov 14, 2007
When playing Bioshock my laptop turns it self off after 5min due to overheating.
I have not overclocked it in any way. I use the drivers from this forum, and have tried others, still the same resolut.
It works somewhat beter with the dell drivers. 7950 GTX.
When I feel on the back of the comp its not that hot.
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Nov 14, 2007
how to upgrade a 1710 (with a 7900gs) to a 7950gtx please?
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Aug 19, 2007
For some reason my laptop will occasionally not boot up when it is on battery (not connected to AC power source).
It's been doing this all today--I can't get it to boot without plugging it in.
If I try to boot with no AC power, it seems to start booting (I hear drives spin) but doesn't reach the BIOS screen (nothing on the display).
Now, if I put AC power in for only a second, boot, and remove it as soon as it gets to the BIOS loading screen, then there are no problems.
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Aug 31, 2007
ive heard 5.1 is supported with the jack on 1710, what cables do i need?
im awaiting a 5.1 optical usb thing.
if the 1710 support 5.1 , i could use the usb thing on the 8600.
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Feb 23, 2008
I can setup my display on my samsung 226bw so that it is the only display and that the internal lcd is turned off. It displays fine at 1680x1050.
However when I restart the laptop and get to windows the signal the laptop seems to send out is 1280x1024 (which the monitor reports). Windows still sets the desktop at 1680x1050 and the result is a desktop that is oversized for the monitor.
I can correct this by turning off the laptop, disconnecting the monitor, restarting the laptop and then reconnecting the monitor.
I can't figure out why it does this?
I have the Dell 1710 with 7900GTX and am using the NBF Mobileforce drivers v169.09 M4 drivers under xp pro.
I have also installed the drivers for the monitor as well.
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Feb 27, 2008
I had a 1705 and it crapped out. Got a 1720, wasn't bad, but just not me. No dell didn't repalce mine with an exchange from the 1705 to the 1710. I am an honest person and didn't feel like spending hours and hours of my life. So I picked up a 1710 from the outlet...
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Jul 20, 2007
I love my Dell M1710, even more now that it has a new 7950 GTX in it, but the more I think about it, the more I don't know if I really need "Gaming on the go." I really could live without playing lots of games in college. I do love gaming though. I was thinking of possibly selling the M1710 and buying in its place a smaller much cheaper laptop that could handle basically everything the the m1710 could except for of course gaming. On the side I'd also prolly buy a sweet desktop rig that I could upgrade as I saw fit (and as I got paid), possibly from ibuypower.com.
I forgot to post my question I got so caught up haha...Anyone who's had a m1710 and sold, care to give me some insight? Or if you could direct me to my next purchase, that would be helpful as well.
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Oct 17, 2007
is it possible to swap the guts of a 1705 into the chassis of a 1710, using a 1710 motherboard.
I got a 9400 through work, they paid for it and gave it to me. had a X1400, which was promptly replaced with a 7950GTX 512mb and overclocked to 666/800.
got the 4965AGN wifi card, bluetooth 2.0EDR, 1920x1200 screen, essentially maxed out the 9400.
So i was wondering if i got my hands on a 1710 motherboard and chassis, would it be possible to swap my CPU [T7200] wifi card [intel Wifilink 4965AGN] GPU[7950GTX] ram [2x1GB DRR2] speakers etc.
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Apr 12, 2008
have been sold units that under perform even the slowest of Walmart brand laptops!!!
Hold on, bare with me. No it's fine in games, as the CPU usage is hardly ever at above 80 usage for more then 2-3 minutes, and fluctuates up and down.
However, should you try to run a dual core test! Something that loads both your cores up at 90%+ like Sony Vegas, DIVx Converter....anything that will require more then 5minutes of processing time. The dell XPS case, along with it's worthless heat pipe cooling solution is not sufficient enough to cool the processor. I have taken off all overclocks in my sig, have had dell replace all my fans and heat syncs and NOTHING!!! Still the same result.
Putting both cores at high load, for more then 4 minutes, ie encoding a video, etc. will through the CPU into throttling mode!!! As if that wasn't enough, dell decided to write it's bios, that when that occurs at 93C, the voltage supplied to the CPU remains constant!!! Regardless of the clock!
As such, if you continue the work flow...(anything stressing the cores for more then 4-5min) you will see the processor throttle down to as lot as 1000Mhz!! effectively turning a 70+ fps video conversion into 20fps. I couldn't believe that this was happening but it does!!
Use CPUz to watch your clocks, along with Intel's thermal analysis tool, that you can find here http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/20...etemp-speedfan to test your rigs.
I have called dell, and they basically, after 2 and a half hours of me demonstrating the issue to them over and over with different programs and methods, have told me that it's not a dell problem and that it's an intel problem, and that throttling at 93C is a processor issue.
I asked to see that maybe there is something wrong with my unit, but they said run the tests, and of course, the test come out that everythign is positive.
The idiot on the phone, even had the nerve to tell me, that the "event log" in windows would display any overheating issues!!! HOW?
I'm realy pissed at Dell and am venting a bit, but originally, I though that my CPU went that hot, because I had it overclocked, but it turns out, that it does it regardless and even at the stock 2.33GHz!!!
Please run some test on your systems. This is unacceptable. I can get more work done on my crappy wallmart brand POS, then on the Dell.
Please also check this link for another user experiencing the same issues, as well at even stock clock speeds on the 7600G!!!!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=118929
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