Dell :: Is The M1730 / 8800M GTX SLI Fully Dead And Out Of The System?
Sep 30, 2009
I'm another one of those waiting for an 8800M GTX (Dell PN XM888) replacement...
Replacement was initiated by Dell in early September, was told backorder until September 21. On September 21, backorder was pushed to October 5...
I've made a bit of noise and I'm at the "Consumer Escalation" level, but I know there's the "Executive Escalation" level as well. At this point, I've got a Service Call number for a system replacement, but it's showing no activity....
I just bought a new Dell M1730 with 4 gigs of ram and the Intel Core 2 X9000 processor.
It has the 8800m SLI video card(s) in it. I installed Everest and it consistently says that the GPU temperature is running around 160 degrees F. I am *not* doing anything other than surfing the web and haven't been. Is this normal? The harddrive and cpu temperatures both seem fine. They are 91F and 90F respectively. Any ideas why the GPU would be so high especially since I'm not really doing anything (playing games for instance) that would push it to it's limits? I did buy a notebook cooler but it isn't here yet. It's sitting on a flat surface with decent airflow.
I'm just a little concerned as I don't want it to burn up.
I have the chance to buy a Dell XPS M1730 from someone, they have given me the service tag and it says it was shipped on the 07/05/2009 and the warranty runs until 06/05/2010.
If i bought this laptop would the warranty be fully transferable to me, is it straight forward to change over a warranty with Dell ?
I'm looking to buy one of these machines to replace my 2 year old M90 (which I upgraded to full spec, 2500fx, 4gb, fastest available fitting processor).
Essentially both machines have X9000, 4gb RAM, 8xDVD. The 6300 has 200gb HD, and a 512mb 3600fx card, the 1730 has 2x160gb and dual sli 8800gtx. The M6300 is about £100 less ($200).
I'm struggling to decide :- I love the screen and design of my M90 (the glossy screen on the M1730 looks nasty to me), but I'd imagine the 1730 would outperform the M6300 quite substantially (although my M90 actually drew with if not beat its XPS sibling on several games). The M90 was also built fantastically well....I'm not sure about the 1730 never having seen one.
I really hate getting systems with dead pixels. A lot of manuafacturers allow for minimum dead pixels for their quality control which I think is bunch of crap. Everyone should get 100% quality with their LCD screens.
I thought I would never have to write on these forums again about my troubles with dell. About a year ago to the date my M1710 died on me. I was given an M1730 as a replacement which took 2 months to recieve. It's been working fine till about two weeks ago. Turned it on. Stayed at a black screen.
Called Dell. Made me unscrew the back and try some dignostics. Sent me a new motherboard and memory modules last Monday. Tech came and replaced both. Turned on the machine to find it still doesn't work. He called in for a new LCD panel, bezel, screws, another motherboard to be sure and a new gpu.
Late last week I got an automated message saying one of my part(the dual 8800mgtx sli card is backlogged till October 5th...) Spoke to several techs and supervisors. One made a service request and guaranteed the gpu to come within 3-5 business days. Never recieved a call back and when I called them again, they told me OCT. 5th or later now...... The tech offered me a system replacement of a XPS Studio 16.
I reminded him that is not equal or better. I said I have a gaming laptop now and I want the next best thing since you stopped producing the M1730. I told him that the Alienware M17x is a fair replacement and I got the whole BS about how they are not authorized and stuff. I am in College and it has been two weeks already without a computer. I have had this M1730 for less than a year....... Truly pathetic.
I will check the status tomm but if nothings changed, I will have to take it up a notch with Mohammed at Dell..... My specs are M1730. 2.4ghz, 2 gigs ram, 120gb hd, dual sli 8800m gtx 1gb. Any advice would be great. I have a 4 yr. complete care warranty fyi. In it's last year.
I am trying to fix a v5-571 for a customer, i get the " no operating system found" error, so i thought i could just wip out the hard drive back it up and restore, total failure after removing the drive, the drive comes up with cycle redundancy errors which usually means drive is dead, now I can buy a replacement but I've been unable to find recovery disks for the new drive. The lappy is windows 8. There is no disks with it he never made a recovery disc.
I am at my wits end with my e1705. I had a sudden meltdown about 2 weeks ago... screen went scrambled, BSOD,etc...
Performed diagnostic, memory on video card came back as bad. Replaced with new card (from Dell), reinstalled OS, completely reinstalled nVidea drivers from Dell (Used driver cleaner too)...
Everything went smooth for a couple hours after this was completed yesterday (full diagnostic showed no errors), but after booting up today, after about 5 or 10 minutes of use screen freezes and turns either solid cyan or black... a small pattern of thin lines appears also.
I may take them apart and do AS5 but I dont think it will make a difference. I took some pictures and I will post them in a bit but I am having problems. I was able to enable SLI and I ran 3DMark06 and I got 9937 so I went to overclock my video card and RivaTuner gave me some prompt that it has not been tested with my drivers and and would not run properly. Once in Rivatuner I noticed I am not able to overclock my vid card or anything. So I tried to reinstall rivatuner and nothing. Then I uninstalled my videocard 171.16 drivers and ran drivecleaner, reinstalled my drivers and same thing. I even tried the new 174.12 from laptopvideo2go and still nothing.
I just recently bought a 8800m gtx card with part number xm888 for my m1730 to replace the 8700m sli card that came with it.
My question is whether my 8800m gtx card is sli or not. With the 8700m, when i check my display properties it tells me it has a total of 512mb memory, which makes sense since it is two 256mb cards. But when i do the same thing for the 8800m card it tells me i have 512mb video memory. Does this mean my card is single and not sli? Or is my card two 256mb cards?
Correct me if i am wrong, i read some old threads and people who got the same 8800m card with part number xm8800 said it was a sli card with 1gb memory. Physically, the 8800m i have looks exactly like the 8800m sli cards that have been displayed all over the forum.
there are so many people with a dead 8800m gtx. Mine died a week back. Technician came yesterday.. replaced motherboard to see if it made things alright..It didnt. Now they are telling me that I will have to wait another week for the replacement parts which (is supposed) to be arriving a week later from Malaysia. (BTW I am from India.) If anybody here would be to let me know if 8800m are actually being replaced or not (especially in Asia)?
I have read many posts in this forum with most people from the USA and few in Europe having their M1730 being replaced with AW m17x. Any idea on whats the scenario in Asia?
What should I expect from dell a week from now? Any chances that I could actually get a 8800m replacement as I was told?
If they tell me to wait for, say a week or two more, do I have any other option but to wait? I asked them to provide me a temporary laptop replacement till the issue was fixed, but they said they dont have such facilities.
Crysis UpDated: (F'n vista caused the setting not to save right) The following benchmarks where done using Crysis benchmark util I found over at guru3d.
2/13/2008 10:32:44 AM - Vista Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu DX10 1900x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9 Global Game Quality: VeryHigh ============================================================== TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s) !TimeDemo Run 0 Finished. Play Time: 186.87s, Average FPS: 10.70 Min FPS: 4.27 at frame 90, Max FPS: 22.58 at frame 1189 Average Tri/Sec: -9011310, Tri/Frame: -841973 Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.09 !TimeDemo Run 1 Finished. Play Time: 144.52s, Average FPS: 13.84 Min FPS: 4.27 at frame 90, Max FPS: 22.58 at frame 1189 Average Tri/Sec: -11535945, Tri/Frame: -833573 Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.10 !TimeDemo Run 2 Finished. Play Time: 140.40s, Average FPS: 14.24 Min FPS: 4.27 at frame 90, Max FPS: 22.58 at frame 1189 Average Tri/Sec: -11881713, Tri/Frame: -834120 Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.10 TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)...
When this card comes out at the end of the year, will it get the same 3dmarks scores and fps in old/new games as the desktop version or will it be a little faster then the 8700m? I hope its going to be same as the desktop version.
I get an average fps of 31 using DX9 Very High Cvars along with a Very High config, this running in DX9 in Vista with 8800m GTX overclocked to 625/1500/950 and this at 1920x1200 native res on my XPS M1730 ...
All my systems in my sig have replaced GPU's in a less than a year.
Is this what I get for trying to get a performance GPU's?
Kind of ennoying because I hate the tech's to come to my place and rape my system - I'm not saying all techs do, but I only had one guy who was really careful w/ my system when he was replacing parts. Others just didn't give a damn, which even lead to replacing my M1330.
I caught him when some plastic part from mobo flew off my system, and when he closed the system up, the system refused to boot up lol.
my XPS gen 1 w/ ATI still runs okay at my mom's place.
Anybody else wondering why we haven't seen anything coming out with the 8800m Nvidia cards?
Alienware had their big product release 11/19/07 for their new laptops with the 8800m cards then they pulled the link from their website.
Dell, who usually has the newest stuff doesn't mention them.
The boutique vendors like Voodoo pc and Falcon-nw that pride themselves on offering the latest hardware don't offer them. No press reviews in the print.
I've seen one on line mini review of bench marks from a clevo type laptop with an 8800m video card and that is it.
I wonder if nvidia is having a harder time manufacturing the 8800 62 nM cards than they have admitted. It would explain why the standard 8800 video cards are hard to get as well
I was playing stalker a few days ago getting 50-70 FPS and now come today its so much lower at 20-30(not playable) and I tried CS:S, and COD4, and they all seen dramatic fall in FPS. I don't notice any artifacts but I just notice huge FPS hits. I also think my fan isn't running anymore but I am not sure. Does anyone one know what I should do now? Its out of warranty already.
I have read in other forums that you can put the 9800m GT BIOS on a 8800m GTX card on some systems. I want to do this because I am experiencing the yellow screen problem and dell did not release a fix for all cards. I have a dell xps m1730.
http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archi...customers.aspx The parent blog has a lot of announcements about the XPS line which so many of you are interested in. Good place to verify rumors or pick up new ones :-)
i ran across these drivers on laptopvideo2go.com and i really just have to let all m1730 users know about this. Stock dell drivers and drivers underneath 177.41 have had lots of issues running SLI well, expecially in Non-SLI friendly games like crysis. 179.13 is a laptop version of 178.13 by alienware. This is great stuff. This really has brought the raw power of my SLI out and i can feel it in all my games. Not only that it has lowered my temps by a few degrees over 177.41+ drivers. I strongly recommend these to any 8800m GTX SLI users.
DISCLAIMER! - I will not be responsible for what you do with your cards. However, I wanted to create a thread that would show those that want to play what the 8800m GTXs are capable of.
Before we get started. Let me explain the theory and the reasoning behind this whole thing.
Dell is not in the business of creating computers that burn up, and as most are very aware, they factor in a lot of room for overclocking and game enthusiasts that want to push their hardware to the limit. Here however, they did a "no no" IMO. However it's also the only way that they could tame the beast the 8800 is.
At the heart of the problem is the Dell PSU which is only rated at 230 watts and is close to being maxed and general heat generated by the cards themselves.
The standard 8800s as they arrive from dell, are set to run @ 1.00 volts. This however is a long shot from desktop versions of the cards running @ over 1.3 volts which are near identical in architecture. (some desktop users volt their's to over 1.4 volts!!!!)
What gives? Well from doing a little research, I found out that Dell, is not alone in undervolting these cards and Clevo along with dell does this as well except they undervolt even more! Down to 0.95V!!
Now the benefit of the undervolt, is that you generate a lot less heat. However the less voltage you allow the card, the less stable the card becomes at higher clock frequencies. From reading the posts on this forum alone, I noticed that most people run into artifacting between 620mhz and 645mhz core clocks and 950 memory clocks. The reason for this, is that at those clocks, you are asking the GPUs to do more work, then the voltage supplied to them will allow. All cards are different, but for the most part will run into stability problems before they run into heat problems. Testing this, I found that the GPU fans don't even kick on high during Crysis a game that should push any GPU and its fans to high................................
