Dell :: Quadro 3600M In A M1710
Mar 28, 2008
I am a fully certified DCSE for dell and I was just certifying today on the 2008 systems and noticed that the vcard instructions for the M1710 are identical to the Precision 6300.
the X800 really had 16 pipes, you can damm near oc the 7900GS' core double, amongst other surprises... It would explain why dell may have held out on this card until the dual 8800's came out for the M1730... Who would buy a 1730 w/8700's when you can get a new card for your 1710... Timing me thinks... It wouldn't hurt dell too much to release that card now since the duals are out and are obviously faster...
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Jul 24, 2008
I spent a few hours working with Riva Tuner and drivers and I am now able to see all of the shader info.
If you also want to do this, download the 169.39 drivers for the Quadro 3700 Desktop model, then hack the inf file to include 061c (3700 is 061a) and install the drivers. In Riva Tuner go into the Power Users Settings and set ForceVGADeviceID to 193 (8800 gtx I think) in Vista or 401 (8600GT) in XP. This will allow you to unlock the Low Level System Settings.
The 175.75 drivers will NOT work with Riva Tuner.
Ok, on to what I found. There are a total of 128 stream units in the 3600M. 64 of them are disabled (units 4-7) with no hardware mask. There are a total of 6 raster units in the 3600M. 2 of them are disabled (units 5-6). It appears as though Riva Tuner is not able to re-enable them - at least not in Vista 32. I also tried XP with no luck.
Looking back at the 7900gs to 7900gtx Bios flashing, extra stream units were probably not enabled after the flash, but performance increased. This led me to compare the 8800MGTX info to the 3600M info. I also compared the 3600M to the desktop 3700.........
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Mar 11, 2008
I have been out of high school for two years now and working as a waiter and I am still living with my parents. My dad told me to do something with my life or move out .
Anyway, I decided to go to ITT tech for digital entertainment and Game Design. I guess my dad was glad because he said that I could have his old XPS M1710. Well, my buddy is in school for game design and said that I have to have Quadro graphics for game design.
But, I can't find anything that says that there is such a thing as Quadro with a M1710.
My buddy has an Alienware notebook so he is no help with my Dell, but he swaers that M1710s can have the Quadro. I tried calling Dell and they said that M1710 don't come with Quadros.
Anyway, is there such a thing as Quadro M1710? If so how do I get it. Do you need a new motherboard or is a card and how much would it cost me. Right now my M1710 has a ATI x1400 video and from what I read won't help me at all in school.
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Jun 11, 2008
I'm just selling my Inspiron 9400 on eBay and considering to buy a M6300 instead.
It seems to be a powerful Laptop and a worthy upgrade.
1. Is it worth to buy 3 GB of RAM instead of 2 GB? I mean, is there ANY performance boost (for gaming)? Or will upcoming titles be probable of making use of more than 2 GB? I will be using Win XP btw...
2. Is the C2D T8300 (2.4GHz,3MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB) a good choice? Or is the T9300 (2.5GHz) THAT much better (in terms of gaming performance)?
3. Is the 1440x900 non-glossy screen any good? Maybe some comparison to the one I used before (sharp/1920x1200/glossy)?
4. My set of choice will cost around 1550 euro (without the VAT Tax) and be something like:
- T8300 (2,4 GHz)
- FX 3600
- 200 GB HDD (7200 rpm)
- 1440x900 non-glossy
- 3 years guarantee
Is there any 15"/17" laptop from dell with a similar graphic performance at a similar (or cheaper) price?
5. Is it really worth to pay the 350 euro more to get the fx 3600 instead of the fx 1600?
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Sep 29, 2008
I've a question about dell lattitude and dell lattitude.
These two laptop've a different graphic chip. Which one is better for some 3d program like Sketchup, CAD, 3DSMAX. I prefer on Lattitude e6400 , It's look slim and good design. That's OK. But I've a question about a GPU in this laptop. Can it play some games?
- The Sim2
- Need for speed
- Pro Evolution Soccer
If I compare Quardo NVS160 & GFORCE 9300. Which one is better for some 3D program? Quardo NVS?
- Quardo NVS160 & Quardo FX370 - How about a diffrent?
Lattitude or Precision?
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Mar 3, 2008
NVIDIA Quadro� FX 3600M GPU ...
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Jul 9, 2008
this short review was already posted by me in the dell 17" section,
but i'll put it here, too, so it is easier accessable for all forum users.
it is also a little different, since i added a few things, which i noticed
while playing around with the laptop.
DELL Precision M6300
a few days ago i got my precision m6300 notebook from dell.
so far i benchmarked it with 3dmark06 and took a short look at it.
i payed 1483 euro and the laptop came with the following options:
core2duo t8300 2.4GHz/3MB L2 cache
nvidia fx 3600m card with 512MB
2GB 667MHz RAM (upgraded to 3GB myself)
200GB HDD 7200rpm (seagate)
1440x900 non glare display (lg, replaced by a samsung)
fingerprint reader
vista business to xp professional downgrade (you can use both)
3 years international guarantee
1. 3dmark06
i did the 3dmark06 benchmark at stock clock speeds (i think it's 500/799) with the stock dell driver 175.75. i am running the preinstalled xp pro operation system and most unnecessary background processes are disabled. i have:
8860 3dmarks
with a light overclock (600/900) i have:
9686 3dmarks
i think that's pretty nice. considering the slower cpu (2.4GHz vs. 2.8GHz) and the 175.75 stock dell driver, which is not optimized for gaming, the performance comes pretty close to the 8800GTX in the alienware/ notebooks (~9200 3marks) and it is pretty much the same like the mySN notebook's with the same processor (~8900 3dmarks).
this fact makes me think, that the fx3600 is probably rather a modified 8800gtx card than a gts and that the info shown by gpu-z is wrong. but who knows.
as the card can be overclocked even higher and also there is a way to oc the cpu, the notebook is able to get 10.000+ in 3dmark06.
btw: overclocking is very easy, you can just do it with ntune and there is no need to flash the vbios.
2. what's new
the notebook is very similar to the inspiron 9400/e1705 i had before.
the differences are:
a. different colour (makes it look a lot better)
b. the useless media direct button is used to switch between performance and battery save mode now (useful)
c. the battery is stronger (4 hours battery life vs. 2.5 hours)
d. fingerprint reader available................................
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Jan 10, 2009
What the latest Dell notebook is available nvidia quadro as its graphic card?
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Nov 18, 2007
earlier this year I moved to vista , having good performance under games and a 3dmark05 score of 6500-7500.. , over the course of the year I had many reinstalls cause I wanted to check both X86 and X64 versions of Vista , and decided to stay with x64.
now I don't exactly know when exactly it happend - but a few months back I noticed my 3dmark05 score went down to 3300-3700 , well I thought .. maybe just a bad driver , so over the last 2 months i've tried many driver versions (155.xx , 156,xx , 169.xx from Laptopvideo2go and NBF) and I had the same results with all , I did fresh driver installs so thats not due to bad install or anything like it.
since I'm Currently playing WoW only :P I don't have any other benchmarks to run , Aquamark doesn't work under x64 and I don't know about any good benchmark tools.
something else I noticed which im sure is relevant - I remember that before having those problems my Temps went to the roof while gaming (93-94c) and 73c when idle , now with the new sets of drivers I have about 83c when gaming and 67c idle , now don't get me wrong .. im happy with those temps , but that also means my card doesn't stress itself to the max.
my 1st guess was Powermizer feature , Tried disabling it in the nv_disp.inf without any luck.. I'm not too sure if I managed to disable it.. GPU-Z always "sees" my clocks (500/600) at max.
I also thought about installing an old driver version but honestly I don't remember which drivers were ok to use under vista x64.
so I would really appriciate Ideas , that is before I do format C: ( I really want to avoid it this time).
Dell 1705 , 2GB Ram , T7200 , Quadro 2500m.
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Sep 3, 2009
according to this site linkhttp://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-...ist.844.0.html
it appears to be apart from a few minor things but basically were talking 280m power here ?
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May 11, 2009
Why is a lot of people on ebay selling the m2400 with a quadro fx 380
Dell dont have the 380 on their homepage and i cant find it on nvidias homepage eiter
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Apr 10, 2010
My laptop is a D630 with Windows Vista 32 which otherwise was working perfectly.
First the facts:
-Starting last week, my screen started to switch off without apparent reason requiring a hard reboot each time it happened since nothing else worked to bring it back to life.
-Then it started getting worse, one of the times I rebooted I got a split screen (two identical bad quality images one on top of the other) and the only way I managed to get out of it was to disable the nvidia driver (I had already tried to revert to the previous one and it was failing as well). Only problem with that is that playing video with the Nvidia disabled is a nightmare since the image slows down a lot and it's not synchronized with the sound.
-I tried to install the latest drivers from Dell (it seemed to be working then), and then I installed the latest ones from Nvidia and started having problems again.
-At some point during all this, my Windows lost the ability to suspend or hibernate.
-When I thought about restoring the system, it was already too late to go back to before the problem started, since all the available restoring points where more recent than that. (I know, slow reflexes on my part). I still tried to restore to when the new Dell drivers were working but the restoring failed (several times).
-Once or twice I managed to re-enable the driver and make it work for a few hours but the "screen turn off" eventually appears again.
Now the questions:
-Does anyone have a solution for this?
-Has it happened to anyone else? I searched D630 and Nvidia in the forums but all the threads I found were from 2008 and older.
-What's the next step, what should I do now?
-Would re-installing Windows be the only option, or it wouldn't help at all since I'd still have a driver problem?
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Oct 2, 2008
I'm starting to get some weird video symptoms on my Latitude D830 with the Nvidia Quadro NVS140M video. Fairly random at this point, maybe once or twice a week, the screen does something weird in terms of displaying stuff that it completely shouldn't, even during boot-up.
Don't know if this chip is a member of the family of Nvidia chips that suffers from the bugs, but has anyone else experienced this with a heavily-used Latitude D830 yet?
If I have to get a new motherboard, has Nvidia actually implemented a solution, or are they still shipping the same parts? I have ~3 years of warranty left (plus the bonus year), but I don't look forward to a motherboard replacement every year or so.
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Oct 2, 2009
I purchased an FX 1600M to replace my fried 7900GS. BIOS didn't recognize it. At the beginning of the boot screen I realized that the card was "engineering sample" and I couldn't install nvidia drivers by double clicking on the setup file because no compatible card recognized. I only could install them from the device manager by updating drivers and pointing out the extracted drivers folder. I use A09 BIOS and Windows XP.
Everest and gpuz say that the card is Quadro fx1600. On every speed setup ati tool showed artifacts, even with downclock!
However the card managed both 3dmark 05 and 06. Actually with good marks.
The card had 2 heatpipes but since my case needed modification I decided to change heatpipes with my old GF7900 gs. With 1 heatpipe I installed it in my Dell E1705. Can it be a heat problem that atitool showed artifacts? I also use i8kfan to check heat run and while gaming temperature went up to 84 degrees. Idle temperature was 60 degrees (corrected with gpuz). I will modify my case soon and install it with 2 heatpipes again.
Does anybody know about "engineering sample" gpu's?
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Jan 13, 2008
i have an m90 t520 with 4gb ram and fx2500m,runing vista ultimate with dx10.
i try to run crysis and i cant get it to run with very high and on high it barely runs, i updated my gpu nvidia driver to 7.15.10.9808 , and still cant run it good , i tried to get a modified inf but my laptop kept on giving me the blue screen and crashes everytime i try to run crysis or even 3dmark06
if anyone can provide a working inf or a good driver with the latest inf modified installed that would be great.
and maybe an answear on why i can run the damn game on very high with dx10 even though my laptop is more then qualified to run it
dell m90 , t5200 core 2 duo,4gb ddr2 5400,nvidia quadrofx2500,wxga+ 1440.900.
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Aug 27, 2009
some month ago i upgrade my bad 7900GS to a Quadro 1600M.
i have a great problem with internal monitor with a black screen.
now i use with external monitor and DVI and work
i try with a M90 monitor and work perfectly. i try my monitor with m90 and work.
what can i do? i read about flash with other bios but i don't understand.
i have to donwload bios of dell m6300? or i have to change my video driver?
probably new quadro card have different voltage.
i try also different OS: win Xp, Vista, Ubuntu, Win 7
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Dec 28, 2007
I just modded my quadro fx3500m into a geforce 7950gt using the rivatuner. I did this because i thought the card would perform better while playing games. However there was no improvement and some games like NfsProstreet became slower. My 3dmark06 slipped from 5867 to 5734.Has this happened to anybody else,or did i go wrong somewhere?
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Mar 6, 2009
Does anyone know why this card is RIDICULOUSLY RIDICULOUSLY and last but not least RIDICULOUSLY TERRIBLE!!??
I installed CoD5 and the graphics looked no better than my 7950gtx NOR my 128mb ATI which is about 5 years old. It even looks terrible playing Warcraft 3. Even looks bad when playing vista chess- i can see the jagged edges.
WTH GIVES?!
I might as well get a laptop geforce 6800, and it will BLOW BLOW BLOW the newer Quadro 2700m away anyday any night.
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Jul 28, 2009
And OpenCL eventually? Sorry if it was asked before but my searches were unsuccessful.
I am planning a Latitude E6400 and would like this option over 4500MHD if it supports CS4 and vReveal acceleration.
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Mar 25, 2009
I change my old Geforce 7900 gs from my INSPIRON 9400 for one Geforce Quadro 1600M, need change my adapter PA-10 for other highter like PA-13 or PA-15 ?
Some times my windows Vista Businnes freze whiti Q 1600M + PA-10 ...
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Sep 4, 2008
Just installed the card instead of the broken one (fx2500 as well) that was installed on my laptop for about one year. After reassembling the computer and turning it on nothing is happen on the screen although the HD and DVD driver are making the noises and leds are on as well. Reinstalling the bad card returns me to the previous condition when i see all screen pixeled with gibrish and finally crashing the system immediately after windows is finishing to load.
On the new card (purchased from eBay as used item in good condition for 260$) i noticed Rev A02 instead of A00 on the broken card. Do you think that the problem is revision or the card is just piece of crap? Any idea to get it back to Rev A00?
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Nov 5, 2008
I was wondering if it would be possible to install the drivers for the 9600 GT drivers on the FX 770M. If i'm correct the card is based on the same chip and i was curious if i'd be able to get a better game performance using those drivers.
Are there any real risks in installing the 9600 drivers?
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Mar 24, 2009
SOLVED: Precision Motherboard P/N YY715 Requires Heatsink P/N YD866 for systems with Discrete Graphics (NVS 110m, NVS 120m, and FX 350m)
My Dell Precision m65 with T7200 and Nvidia Quadro FX 350M shuts down at random times (during boot, bios setup, within windows.)
*Does not matter whether system is using battery or AC, or does not have battery installed. Same symptoms while using dock station.
System Specs:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo @2Ghz T7200
Graphics: Quadro FX 350M
Ram: 2gb
Display: WXSGA+ 1680 x 1050
HDD: 80gb Seagate .....
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May 2, 2009
Starting to have a bunch of troubles with my Nvidia Quadro 140M card on a Dell D830 laptop.
Main feature is that the screen will either randomly go blank, or will go into severe oscillations in terms of the picture, on both the internal, as well as the external attached LCD.
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Sep 7, 2009
I have Dell Latitude D820 with NVidia Quadro NVS 120M, but its causing failures, probably NVIDIA GPU. There are vertical straight lines on the screen, sometimes it won't boot at all, sometimes it would go dark screen and never start... etc Its been approximately 2 years since Ive had it.
Im planning on buying Dell latitude E6500.
I have the following questions:
1) Most people's reviews about E6500 are very disappointing, is it really true that E6500 is worse than the D820 or D series laptops in terms of build quality and hardware failure problems?
2) Considering Im having trouble with the NVidia GOU (probably) and that some people have witnessed GPU failures in Apple Macbook Pro (which uses 9400M and 9600M GPUs) and E6500 uses 160M (9300M GPU), so its a 9-series GPUs failing. Should I consider having Quadro NVS 160M in E6500 or I should avoid it and get Intel's Graphics card for now?
3) How much performance affect is there if comparing NVS 160 M with Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD ? regarding the basic 3D simulations, such as using Macromedia Director or Studio Max, or games? I mean to ask, is Quadro NVS 160M really worth it?
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Mar 8, 2009
If Dell knows anything about it on your machine, the warranty WILL BE VOIDED, and no support will be given!
Disclaimer
By performing this overclock you risk permanently damage (not reversible) your graphic card of your laptop and it's components, the motherboard and or other components in the laptop.
Your warranty on your system does not cover overclocking. Remember that the GPU is soldered onto the motherboard and can't be replaced yourself (a new motherboard is required). Dell laptop motherboards are very expensive ........
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Aug 18, 2007
I finally got what is the old school Generation 2 look which IMO looks better. click here if you're interested to see how it looks like. Custom parts include the slot load DVD, keyboard, Atheros card and seagate hard drive. Future plans include quadro card sticker (being mailed) and maybe an internal camera mod.
After assembling everything, I continued to do more benchmarking using 3dmark05 and overclocking under vista. I've heard stories about vista hurting performance, but my god does it murder a good amount of framerates and performance. Non-overclocked, I got a best of 8582 on XP, and 7749 under vista.
After reflashing the vid bios and playing with rivatuner and atitools, I started at 575 core and 650 mem, ran 3dmark05, scored 9320. At first, I was pretty amazed at the score considered what vista did to it when it wasn't overclocked. I thought it would go somewhere where it was under XP (non overclocked). Anywho, I decided to up it a bit to 600 core and 700 mem. This time, 3dmark05 gave me a 9110. I tried it again, this time turning off any programs running in the background, and got a similar score. I lowered both clocks back to what it was when i scored the 9320 and ran it again. This time, it gave me an 8840.
Pretty interesting how these scores came about, but has anyone been in a similar situation? I'm thinking about going back to XP or just make a double partition for it, once i figure out how to w/o wiping half my HD.
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Nov 18, 2009
Quadro FX 3800M
http://ven.nvidia.com/object/IO_11761_la.html
GRAPHICS FEATURES NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800M
Mobile Platform Generation Calpella
CUDA™ Cores 128
Memory Size 1GB
Memory Type GDDR3
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth 64GB/sec.
Platform Form factor 17"
Max Power Consumption (Graphics Sub-System) 100W
OpenGL 3.2
Shader Model 4.0
DirectX 10.1
PCI-E Generation 2
PowerMizer Power Management 9.0
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Apr 15, 2010
Which one do you recomend for casual gaming?
8540p with 5100M or 8540w with 880M
Price difference is minimal, so i'm going for a configuration that will offer better gaming performance
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Feb 21, 2008
I was going to be assembling an m1710 this weekend....
I called Dell Spare Parts a few days ago, and placed an order for the following;
HG345 Refurb bottom plastics, m1710
FF084 Refurb palmrest assy, m1710
J8841 Refurb speakers, LED, m1710
CF426 Refurb hinge cover, m1710
I've been watching the order on Dell's site all week, as it was scheduled to ship (on or before today) (2/21/08), and I opted for Next Day shipping.
When I placed the order, the woman I spoke with asked for my Service Tag number. I, um... don't HAVE one... I didn't say this, I simply said I don't have that information at the moment. She asked how I got the part numbers, and I told her from their own Spare Parts page.
Well....the order got cancelled today. Saw it online while at work, just before I left for the day. Another order number with the identical items was created, with a scheduled ship date of 3/3/08. WHAT?
The woman just called....she states they cannot process my order without a service tag number. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
I told her I don't have a tag number....she asked if I was building one. "Yes." To which I hear...
"Oh....well, I don't think our supplier will allow that without a service tag number, because we reserve those parts for people who bought m1710's."
I said "That's amazing...because I know a number of people who have done the same thing I'm trying to do, and had no problems getting these parts."
"Well, that's because they have m1710's"
*mad enought to scream at this point* "Um, no...where do you think I got the idea from?? I'm certainly not the first person to have this idea."
how I can get them to sell me some refurbished plastics? What's the secret password?
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