this short review was already posted by me in the dell 17" section,
but i'll put it here, too, so it is easier accessable for all forum users.
it is also a little different, since i added a few things, which i noticed
while playing around with the laptop.
DELL Precision M6300
a few days ago i got my precision m6300 notebook from dell.
so far i benchmarked it with 3dmark06 and took a short look at it.
i payed 1483 euro and the laptop came with the following options:
core2duo t8300 2.4GHz/3MB L2 cache
nvidia fx 3600m card with 512MB
2GB 667MHz RAM (upgraded to 3GB myself)
200GB HDD 7200rpm (seagate)
1440x900 non glare display (lg, replaced by a samsung)
vista business to xp professional downgrade (you can use both)
3 years international guarantee
i did the 3dmark06 benchmark at stock clock speeds (i think it's 500/799) with the stock dell driver 175.75. i am running the preinstalled xp pro operation system and most unnecessary background processes are disabled. i have:
with a light overclock (600/900) i have:
i think that's pretty nice. considering the slower cpu (2.4GHz vs. 2.8GHz) and the 175.75 stock dell driver, which is not optimized for gaming, the performance comes pretty close to the 8800GTX in the alienware/ notebooks (~9200 3marks) and it is pretty much the same like the mySN notebook's with the same processor (~8900 3dmarks).
this fact makes me think, that the fx3600 is probably rather a modified 8800gtx card than a gts and that the info shown by gpu-z is wrong. but who knows.
as the card can be overclocked even higher and also there is a way to oc the cpu, the notebook is able to get 10.000+ in 3dmark06.
btw: overclocking is very easy, you can just do it with ntune and there is no need to flash the vbios.
2. what's new
the notebook is very similar to the inspiron 9400/e1705 i had before.
the differences are:
a. different colour (makes it look a lot better)
b. the useless media direct button is used to switch between performance and battery save mode now (useful)
c. the battery is stronger (4 hours battery life vs. 2.5 hours)
d. fingerprint reader available................................
I'm just selling my Inspiron 9400 on eBay and considering to buy a M6300 instead. It seems to be a powerful Laptop and a worthy upgrade.
1. Is it worth to buy 3 GB of RAM instead of 2 GB? I mean, is there ANY performance boost (for gaming)? Or will upcoming titles be probable of making use of more than 2 GB? I will be using Win XP btw...
2. Is the C2D T8300 (2.4GHz,3MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB) a good choice? Or is the T9300 (2.5GHz) THAT much better (in terms of gaming performance)?
3. Is the 1440x900 non-glossy screen any good? Maybe some comparison to the one I used before (sharp/1920x1200/glossy)?
4. My set of choice will cost around 1550 euro (without the VAT Tax) and be something like:
- T8300 (2,4 GHz) - FX 3600 - 200 GB HDD (7200 rpm) - 1440x900 non-glossy - 3 years guarantee
Is there any 15"/17" laptop from dell with a similar graphic performance at a similar (or cheaper) price?
5. Is it really worth to pay the 350 euro more to get the fx 3600 instead of the fx 1600?
"Notebook Italia has shots and specifications for a rumored 17-inch Dell Precision M6300 laptop, which could replace the ageing Dell Precision M90. We'll start with the most interesting feature, which is a BTO option for up to 8GB of installed RAM available when you include a copy of Vista 64-bit. Beyond that, the M6300 is rumored to feature Intel Core 2 Duos from 1.8GHz up to 2.4GHz, with a 2.6GHz Intel Core Extreme X7800 topping out the line. It'll also come with options for NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M, 2600M, or FX 3600M graphics cards. There will apparently also be options for 1440x900, 1900x1200, and 1920x1200 glossy and matte displays, and a Blu-ray drive configuration. The word is that this model could ship by August 31st, so at least you haven't got long to wait."
I have an M6300 Mobile Workstation that does not turn on. The green "On" indicator goes on and then the Cap Lock indicator just blinks. The screen never turns on and I never see the Dell opening splash screen when starting the computer. I have to hold the power button for over 20 seconds to turn the unit off.
What is going on with this computer especially what the blinking Cap Lock indicator means? Can I guess that it could be a hard drive problem because it tries to start, but never does and hangs with a blank screen, a Blinking Caps Lock indicator and the "On" indicator on steady?
I am a fully certified DCSE for dell and I was just certifying today on the 2008 systems and noticed that the vcard instructions for the M1710 are identical to the Precision 6300.
the X800 really had 16 pipes, you can damm near oc the 7900GS' core double, amongst other surprises... It would explain why dell may have held out on this card until the dual 8800's came out for the M1730... Who would buy a 1730 w/8700's when you can get a new card for your 1710... Timing me thinks... It wouldn't hurt dell too much to release that card now since the duals are out and are obviously faster...
I spent a few hours working with Riva Tuner and drivers and I am now able to see all of the shader info.
If you also want to do this, download the 169.39 drivers for the Quadro 3700 Desktop model, then hack the inf file to include 061c (3700 is 061a) and install the drivers. In Riva Tuner go into the Power Users Settings and set ForceVGADeviceID to 193 (8800 gtx I think) in Vista or 401 (8600GT) in XP. This will allow you to unlock the Low Level System Settings.
The 175.75 drivers will NOT work with Riva Tuner.
Ok, on to what I found. There are a total of 128 stream units in the 3600M. 64 of them are disabled (units 4-7) with no hardware mask. There are a total of 6 raster units in the 3600M. 2 of them are disabled (units 5-6). It appears as though Riva Tuner is not able to re-enable them - at least not in Vista 32. I also tried XP with no luck.
Looking back at the 7900gs to 7900gtx Bios flashing, extra stream units were probably not enabled after the flash, but performance increased. This led me to compare the 8800MGTX info to the 3600M info. I also compared the 3600M to the desktop 3700.........
can some 1 tell me wts the temperature for the M1710 with 512 MB 7950 GTX please ,,cause i just upgrade to it and i dont now whts gonna be and please tell me which program (am using 2 programs I8KfanGUI and NVTemplogger)
im wondering how much difference i would see if i bought the 8700m 512mbx2. i have the m1730 with 8700m 256mbx2. i can't afford the 8800gtx. unless someone is willing to sell one to me for $450. is the 8700m 512mb sli pretty close to the 8800m gtx 512mb in performance?
I'm planning on purchasing a Dell Studio 15 and I want it to play games like Grand Theft Auto 4 smoothly.
Now my question is, I have $1120 to spend, and can either afford to upgrade the video card to 512mb, OR keep it at 256mb and upgrade my HD to 500gb from 250gb. So will my fps and quality increases be significant enough to justify upgrading the video card to 512mb or would the 256mb suffice.
current build specs: Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 2.1ghz vista home premium x64 4gb ram 5400rpm HD
I am replacing my Dell Inspiron 9400 current video card which is a Dell nVidia 7900GS 256MB(dual heat pipes) with a Dell FX2500M 512MB video card.I want to know if it will work ok??I know I have to get a PA-13 for a XPS M1710 power supply to replace the PA-10 supply and I already modded my housing corner by removing the extra metal on the left side to fit the second heat pipe.I have the current bios of A09 in my Inspiron 9400.Besides getting the PA-13 power supply,9 cell battery(already got a 9Cell battery),and the latest Dell video drivers,am I missing anything?
After spending a great deal of time reading through various forums I've arrived here in hopes of getting Fallout 3 to run properly on my M6300.
Whenever run the game it seems to wind up having many graphic bugs (improper texture mapping etc.).
I believe the issue lies with the fact that the M6300 uses a Quadro card which isn't optimized for game playing--though I would appreciate it if I could play the game on any level, albeit the lowest possible settings.
As far as I can see it the only option with the possibility of docking and decent graphics performance are the m90/m6300 (regardless of manufacture). Has anyone heard news of a 8800 equivalent card for the m6300? I am duo to replace my m90 and believe the docking to be very convenient. Why doesn't the 5793 or m15x come with a docking option!
i recently saw some cheap mobile penrynn processors on ebay. so i think about upgrading my cpu in the future (they get cheaper from day to day) .
but i have the following questions before further considering that:
1. does changing the cpu on your own void your dell warranty in any way? 2. is it difficult to change it (never opened my laptop before)? 3. can i use ALL of the processors listed on the bottom of this post? (as the x9000 has 44 watt instead of the others' 35 watt) 4. is it just plug & play /stick the new cpu inside and it works?
I'm not looking to debate the geforce vs quadro performance nor do I want people to tell me to wait for the 9m series cards, just a couple quick questions.
Does the m1730 have a docking port? From what I can find, I'm thinking it does not. For that matter, does the m6300 have one? I think it does...
Can an 8800gtx from an m1730 be put into an m6300? If not, I'll be fine with the 3600m, but I prefer geforce cards.
If yes, where can you get an 8800gtx and how much do they cost? I've seen people saying anything from over $2000 to $700.... which is quite a difference.
I guess while I'm at it, are there any other huge issues that I've maybe overlooked? I'm thinking about things like the huge LCD problems that everyone experienced with light leakage and whatnot on the m170/9300 series and even overflowing into the next gen stuff iirc.
I have installed a FX 2500M (rev A02) on a M6300 system board A10 Bios, the card is working but its clock is fixed to 100MHz (100MHz core + 100MHz mem).
FX 2500m doesn't switch to 3D Low mode (200/300) or 3D Performance mode (500/600). It always remains on 2D Mode (100/100)
Off Course the same card works correctly on M90 System Board.
I have tried many drivers, DELL version and generic version by laptopvideo2go, but same results (always fixed to 100MHz).
I have tried Rivatuner to force clock switch. Same results No Switch
I have even installed a new OS (Vista 64) and with it, I have a strange situation.
With Vista64 (no SP1) original driver supplied by MS (and based, I suppose, on forceware 96.xx) the card seems to works at high clock.
No information tools can be used (with MS Driver) so I can't see which clock are active but 3D performance (games and benchmark) are near the performance achieved with M90.
But once I update the driver by installing a recent version supplied by Nvidia (Dell version or generic is the same), the card blocks to 100MHz even under Vista64.
Unfortunately with MS Driver there are many graphics error and it isn't so usable with 3D application (i.e. games) and furthermore I want to use the card with XP32 (Vista64 has been installed only for tests).
Well i can usually fix my laptop problems but this one has me very surprised and i wanted to ask for opinions before doing somehting drastic (like changing the screen)
But alf m laptop screen goes dim, if this were the only thing the anwser would be obvious (broken screen change it) but the thing fixes when it goes into battery and slowly comes back when its conected again
I has virtually the same brightness on battery mode than on conected mode so the only real thing conecting her does its dimming alf the screen.
Why would it work while on battery and not conected? and why only alf screen?