Dell :: FX 2500M Not Usable On M6300
Oct 2, 2008
I have installed a FX 2500M (rev A02) on a M6300 system board A10 Bios, the card is working but its clock is fixed to 100MHz (100MHz core + 100MHz mem).
FX 2500m doesn't switch to 3D Low mode (200/300) or 3D Performance mode (500/600).
It always remains on 2D Mode (100/100)
Off Course the same card works correctly on M90 System Board.
I have tried many drivers, DELL version and generic version by laptopvideo2go, but same results (always fixed to 100MHz).
I have tried Rivatuner to force clock switch. Same results No Switch
I have even installed a new OS (Vista 64) and with it, I have a strange situation.
With Vista64 (no SP1) original driver supplied by MS (and based, I suppose, on forceware 96.xx) the card seems to works at high clock.
No information tools can be used (with MS Driver) so I can't see which clock are active but 3D performance (games and benchmark) are near the performance achieved with M90.
But once I update the driver by installing a recent version supplied by Nvidia (Dell version or generic is the same), the card blocks to 100MHz even under Vista64.
Unfortunately with MS Driver there are many graphics error and it isn't so usable with 3D application (i.e. games) and furthermore I want to use the card with XP32 (Vista64 has been installed only for tests).
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Apr 6, 2009
In short: My e1705 with a quadro 2500m is idling at temperatures at least 10 degrees celsius higher than it was before: 70 degrees with slow fans compared to ~60 with slow fans (I had fans kick in at 65 to bring it back to 60). There have been no hardware/software changes to the system.
So I read the guides about applying AS5 to your GPU and I thought I'd try to get better temps.
I cleaned off all the old compound from both the GPU and the heat spreader, and placed about a pea-sized piece on the GPU (see attachment). It wasn't the most perfect blob of AS5, but volume-wise I think it was pretty close, and ideally it would be smoothed out when I tightened the screws on the heat spreader.
I stuck to a "less is more approach" having heard that all I needed to do was fill the minor imperfections of the contact surfaces.
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Nov 18, 2007
earlier this year I moved to vista , having good performance under games and a 3dmark05 score of 6500-7500.. , over the course of the year I had many reinstalls cause I wanted to check both X86 and X64 versions of Vista , and decided to stay with x64.
now I don't exactly know when exactly it happend - but a few months back I noticed my 3dmark05 score went down to 3300-3700 , well I thought .. maybe just a bad driver , so over the last 2 months i've tried many driver versions (155.xx , 156,xx , 169.xx from Laptopvideo2go and NBF) and I had the same results with all , I did fresh driver installs so thats not due to bad install or anything like it.
since I'm Currently playing WoW only :P I don't have any other benchmarks to run , Aquamark doesn't work under x64 and I don't know about any good benchmark tools.
something else I noticed which im sure is relevant - I remember that before having those problems my Temps went to the roof while gaming (93-94c) and 73c when idle , now with the new sets of drivers I have about 83c when gaming and 67c idle , now don't get me wrong .. im happy with those temps , but that also means my card doesn't stress itself to the max.
my 1st guess was Powermizer feature , Tried disabling it in the nv_disp.inf without any luck.. I'm not too sure if I managed to disable it.. GPU-Z always "sees" my clocks (500/600) at max.
I also thought about installing an old driver version but honestly I don't remember which drivers were ok to use under vista x64.
so I would really appriciate Ideas , that is before I do format C: ( I really want to avoid it this time).
Dell 1705 , 2GB Ram , T7200 , Quadro 2500m.
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Sep 20, 2007
I have a t2250 e1705 with a newly installed 2500m with a 130w psu.
I did my unlocked bios mod.
with stock clocks I got 7862 on 3dmark 06 demo.
This is super low? right? a gs can do better right?
what is some good drivers I can use for XP for this card?
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Aug 18, 2007
I finally got what is the old school Generation 2 look which IMO looks better. click here if you're interested to see how it looks like. Custom parts include the slot load DVD, keyboard, Atheros card and seagate hard drive. Future plans include quadro card sticker (being mailed) and maybe an internal camera mod.
After assembling everything, I continued to do more benchmarking using 3dmark05 and overclocking under vista. I've heard stories about vista hurting performance, but my god does it murder a good amount of framerates and performance. Non-overclocked, I got a best of 8582 on XP, and 7749 under vista.
After reflashing the vid bios and playing with rivatuner and atitools, I started at 575 core and 650 mem, ran 3dmark05, scored 9320. At first, I was pretty amazed at the score considered what vista did to it when it wasn't overclocked. I thought it would go somewhere where it was under XP (non overclocked). Anywho, I decided to up it a bit to 600 core and 700 mem. This time, 3dmark05 gave me a 9110. I tried it again, this time turning off any programs running in the background, and got a similar score. I lowered both clocks back to what it was when i scored the 9320 and ran it again. This time, it gave me an 8840.
Pretty interesting how these scores came about, but has anyone been in a similar situation? I'm thinking about going back to XP or just make a double partition for it, once i figure out how to w/o wiping half my HD.
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Mar 30, 2009
Quick question here - just installed 2x2gb and BIOS happily tells me that "Due to the amount of memory being assigned for system use, memory available is less than memory installed".
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From what i remember, it means that d620's BIOS can't map devices above 4gb? I tried to find this option in the BIOS but couldn't. Maybe i missed something? I'm kinda disappointed since d620 is supposed to be more or less serious laptop.
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Jan 2, 2009
After spending a great deal of time reading through various forums I've arrived here in hopes of getting Fallout 3 to run properly on my M6300.
Whenever run the game it seems to wind up having many graphic bugs (improper texture mapping etc.).
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Sep 6, 2009
i have M1710 and i have question about replacement of MB and Graphic card will MB and graphic card from M6300 fit into M1710 chasis? and will it work if i will replace only those two components?
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Jun 11, 2008
I'm just selling my Inspiron 9400 on eBay and considering to buy a M6300 instead.
It seems to be a powerful Laptop and a worthy upgrade.
1. Is it worth to buy 3 GB of RAM instead of 2 GB? I mean, is there ANY performance boost (for gaming)? Or will upcoming titles be probable of making use of more than 2 GB? I will be using Win XP btw...
2. Is the C2D T8300 (2.4GHz,3MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB) a good choice? Or is the T9300 (2.5GHz) THAT much better (in terms of gaming performance)?
3. Is the 1440x900 non-glossy screen any good? Maybe some comparison to the one I used before (sharp/1920x1200/glossy)?
4. My set of choice will cost around 1550 euro (without the VAT Tax) and be something like:
- T8300 (2,4 GHz)
- FX 3600
- 200 GB HDD (7200 rpm)
- 1440x900 non-glossy
- 3 years guarantee
Is there any 15"/17" laptop from dell with a similar graphic performance at a similar (or cheaper) price?
5. Is it really worth to pay the 350 euro more to get the fx 3600 instead of the fx 1600?
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Feb 13, 2008
As far as I can see it the only option with the possibility of docking and decent graphics performance are the m90/m6300 (regardless of manufacture). Has anyone heard news of a 8800 equivalent card for the m6300? I am duo to replace my m90 and believe the docking to be very convenient. Why doesn't the 5793 or m15x come with a docking option!
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Jul 20, 2008
i recently saw some cheap mobile penrynn processors on ebay.
so i think about upgrading my cpu in the future (they get cheaper
from day to day) .
but i have the following questions before further considering that:
1. does changing the cpu on your own void your dell warranty in any way?
2. is it difficult to change it (never opened my laptop before)?
3. can i use ALL of the processors listed on the bottom of this post?
(as the x9000 has 44 watt instead of the others' 35 watt)
4. is it just plug & play /stick the new cpu inside and it works?
here the available processor models:
X90002.8 GHz 6MB44 Watt
T95002.6 GHz 6MB35 Watt
T93002.5 GHz 6MB35 Watt
T83002.4 GHz 3MB35 Watt
T81002.1 GHz 3MB35 Watt
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Jul 23, 2008
I'm not looking to debate the geforce vs quadro performance nor do I want people to tell me to wait for the 9m series cards, just a couple quick questions.
Does the m1730 have a docking port? From what I can find, I'm thinking it does not. For that matter, does the m6300 have one? I think it does...
Can an 8800gtx from an m1730 be put into an m6300? If not, I'll be fine with the 3600m, but I prefer geforce cards.
If yes, where can you get an 8800gtx and how much do they cost? I've seen people saying anything from over $2000 to $700.... which is quite a difference.
I guess while I'm at it, are there any other huge issues that I've maybe overlooked? I'm thinking about things like the huge LCD problems that everyone experienced with light leakage and whatnot on the m170/9300 series and even overflowing into the next gen stuff iirc.
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Apr 2, 2010
Well i can usually fix my laptop problems but this one has me very surprised and i wanted to ask for opinions before doing somehting drastic (like changing the screen)
But alf m laptop screen goes dim, if this were the only thing the anwser would be obvious (broken screen change it) but the thing fixes when it goes into battery and slowly comes back when its conected again
I has virtually the same brightness on battery mode than on conected mode so the only real thing conecting her does its dimming alf the screen.
Why would it work while on battery and not conected? and why only alf screen?
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Jul 2, 2009
hi there i have 4gb ocz pc6300 800mhz ram installed in my m6300 but the bios shows me that the ram is running @ 667MHZ. how can i change it
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Jul 22, 2008
OC the GPU as follows
650 - 921 - 1625
3DMark06 result 10,277.
Submitted to NBF Benchmarks
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Oct 1, 2009
Like what the title says ive been googling it and can't find anything about it if the x9000 is to be able to be overclocked on the m6300. Anyone care to provide some insight
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Aug 15, 2008
These are the best drivers I have found so far.
Windows Vista 32 Bit
Quadro 3600M
177.79 Beta Drivers
600/900/1500
3DMark Score 9145
SM 2.0 Score 4288
SM 3.0 Score 3982
CPU Score 2212
625/950/1563
3DMark Score 9447
SM 2.0 Score 4421
SM 3.0 Score 4132
CPU Score 2277
To compare, here are the 175.75 results
600/900/1500
3D Mark - 9086
SM 2.0 - 4193
SM 3.0 - 3909
CPU - 2296
625/950/1563
3D Mark - 9345
SM 2.0 -4354
SM 3.0 -4059
CPU - 2292 ...
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Apr 8, 2008
Was wondering if any of the programmers out there could crack the M6300 bios so it would blind flash a M1710. I have a video card here from an M6300 and an M1710 that I would be willing to brick and RMA if it doesnt work.
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Aug 12, 2007
"Notebook Italia has shots and specifications for a rumored 17-inch Dell Precision M6300 laptop, which could replace the ageing Dell Precision M90. We'll start with the most interesting feature, which is a BTO option for up to 8GB of installed RAM available when you include a copy of Vista 64-bit. Beyond that, the M6300 is rumored to feature Intel Core 2 Duos from 1.8GHz up to 2.4GHz, with a 2.6GHz Intel Core Extreme X7800 topping out the line. It'll also come with options for NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M, 2600M, or FX 3600M graphics cards. There will apparently also be options for 1440x900, 1900x1200, and 1920x1200 glossy and matte displays, and a Blu-ray drive configuration. The word is that this model could ship by August 31st, so at least you haven't got long to wait."
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May 3, 2008
picked up this system last wkend but still in the progress of benchmarking and testing
dell m6300
t7700=2.4gig
4gig ram
160gig 7200rpm hitachi
fx3600m video card
bluray/dvd burner
1900x1200
vista business 32bit
3dmark 06- from factory no tweaks about 7800
overclocked video card from 500->550, and ram from 800->880
= 3DMark Score 8429 3DMarks @550/880
SM 2.0 Score 3843
SM 3.0 Score 3689
CPU Score 2117
3dmark 06 o/c video card @600/920
=8845
SM 2.0 Score 4111
SM 3.0 Score 3930
CPU Score 2105
3dmark 06 @660/980
3DMark Score 9341 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4400
SM 3.0 Score 4244
CPU Score 2113
3dmark 05 - stock 500/800
13711 3DMarks
CPU Score
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Jul 9, 2008
this short review was already posted by me in the dell 17" section,
but i'll put it here, too, so it is easier accessable for all forum users.
it is also a little different, since i added a few things, which i noticed
while playing around with the laptop.
DELL Precision M6300
a few days ago i got my precision m6300 notebook from dell.
so far i benchmarked it with 3dmark06 and took a short look at it.
i payed 1483 euro and the laptop came with the following options:
core2duo t8300 2.4GHz/3MB L2 cache
nvidia fx 3600m card with 512MB
2GB 667MHz RAM (upgraded to 3GB myself)
200GB HDD 7200rpm (seagate)
1440x900 non glare display (lg, replaced by a samsung)
fingerprint reader
vista business to xp professional downgrade (you can use both)
3 years international guarantee
1. 3dmark06
i did the 3dmark06 benchmark at stock clock speeds (i think it's 500/799) with the stock dell driver 175.75. i am running the preinstalled xp pro operation system and most unnecessary background processes are disabled. i have:
8860 3dmarks
with a light overclock (600/900) i have:
9686 3dmarks
i think that's pretty nice. considering the slower cpu (2.4GHz vs. 2.8GHz) and the 175.75 stock dell driver, which is not optimized for gaming, the performance comes pretty close to the 8800GTX in the alienware/ notebooks (~9200 3marks) and it is pretty much the same like the mySN notebook's with the same processor (~8900 3dmarks).
this fact makes me think, that the fx3600 is probably rather a modified 8800gtx card than a gts and that the info shown by gpu-z is wrong. but who knows.
as the card can be overclocked even higher and also there is a way to oc the cpu, the notebook is able to get 10.000+ in 3dmark06.
btw: overclocking is very easy, you can just do it with ntune and there is no need to flash the vbios.
2. what's new
the notebook is very similar to the inspiron 9400/e1705 i had before.
the differences are:
a. different colour (makes it look a lot better)
b. the useless media direct button is used to switch between performance and battery save mode now (useful)
c. the battery is stronger (4 hours battery life vs. 2.5 hours)
d. fingerprint reader available................................
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May 29, 2008
I'm looking to buy one of these machines to replace my 2 year old M90 (which I upgraded to full spec, 2500fx, 4gb, fastest available fitting processor).
Essentially both machines have X9000, 4gb RAM, 8xDVD. The 6300 has 200gb HD, and a 512mb 3600fx card, the 1730 has 2x160gb and dual sli 8800gtx. The M6300 is about £100 less ($200).
I'm struggling to decide :- I love the screen and design of my M90 (the glossy screen on the M1730 looks nasty to me), but I'd imagine the 1730 would outperform the M6300 quite substantially (although my M90 actually drew with if not beat its XPS sibling on several games). The M90 was also built fantastically well....I'm not sure about the 1730 never having seen one.
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