Dell :: Quadro 3600M Pipeline Details / RivaTuner Workarounds / Next Steps
Jul 24, 2008
I spent a few hours working with Riva Tuner and drivers and I am now able to see all of the shader info.
If you also want to do this, download the 169.39 drivers for the Quadro 3700 Desktop model, then hack the inf file to include 061c (3700 is 061a) and install the drivers. In Riva Tuner go into the Power Users Settings and set ForceVGADeviceID to 193 (8800 gtx I think) in Vista or 401 (8600GT) in XP. This will allow you to unlock the Low Level System Settings.
The 175.75 drivers will NOT work with Riva Tuner.
Ok, on to what I found. There are a total of 128 stream units in the 3600M. 64 of them are disabled (units 4-7) with no hardware mask. There are a total of 6 raster units in the 3600M. 2 of them are disabled (units 5-6). It appears as though Riva Tuner is not able to re-enable them - at least not in Vista 32. I also tried XP with no luck.
Looking back at the 7900gs to 7900gtx Bios flashing, extra stream units were probably not enabled after the flash, but performance increased. This led me to compare the 8800MGTX info to the 3600M info. I also compared the 3600M to the desktop 3700.........
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Mar 28, 2008
I am a fully certified DCSE for dell and I was just certifying today on the 2008 systems and noticed that the vcard instructions for the M1710 are identical to the Precision 6300.
the X800 really had 16 pipes, you can damm near oc the 7900GS' core double, amongst other surprises... It would explain why dell may have held out on this card until the dual 8800's came out for the M1730... Who would buy a 1730 w/8700's when you can get a new card for your 1710... Timing me thinks... It wouldn't hurt dell too much to release that card now since the duals are out and are obviously faster...
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Jun 11, 2008
I'm just selling my Inspiron 9400 on eBay and considering to buy a M6300 instead.
It seems to be a powerful Laptop and a worthy upgrade.
1. Is it worth to buy 3 GB of RAM instead of 2 GB? I mean, is there ANY performance boost (for gaming)? Or will upcoming titles be probable of making use of more than 2 GB? I will be using Win XP btw...
2. Is the C2D T8300 (2.4GHz,3MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB) a good choice? Or is the T9300 (2.5GHz) THAT much better (in terms of gaming performance)?
3. Is the 1440x900 non-glossy screen any good? Maybe some comparison to the one I used before (sharp/1920x1200/glossy)?
4. My set of choice will cost around 1550 euro (without the VAT Tax) and be something like:
- T8300 (2,4 GHz)
- FX 3600
- 200 GB HDD (7200 rpm)
- 1440x900 non-glossy
- 3 years guarantee
Is there any 15"/17" laptop from dell with a similar graphic performance at a similar (or cheaper) price?
5. Is it really worth to pay the 350 euro more to get the fx 3600 instead of the fx 1600?
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Sep 29, 2008
I've a question about dell lattitude and dell lattitude.
These two laptop've a different graphic chip. Which one is better for some 3d program like Sketchup, CAD, 3DSMAX. I prefer on Lattitude e6400 , It's look slim and good design. That's OK. But I've a question about a GPU in this laptop. Can it play some games?
- The Sim2
- Need for speed
- Pro Evolution Soccer
If I compare Quardo NVS160 & GFORCE 9300. Which one is better for some 3D program? Quardo NVS?
- Quardo NVS160 & Quardo FX370 - How about a diffrent?
Lattitude or Precision?
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Mar 3, 2008
NVIDIA Quadro� FX 3600M GPU ...
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Jun 23, 2009
My sister's E6400 just arrived (3 days early, way to go Dell). any important first steps to do? also, how much bloatware should i expect?
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Jul 9, 2008
this short review was already posted by me in the dell 17" section,
but i'll put it here, too, so it is easier accessable for all forum users.
it is also a little different, since i added a few things, which i noticed
while playing around with the laptop.
DELL Precision M6300
a few days ago i got my precision m6300 notebook from dell.
so far i benchmarked it with 3dmark06 and took a short look at it.
i payed 1483 euro and the laptop came with the following options:
core2duo t8300 2.4GHz/3MB L2 cache
nvidia fx 3600m card with 512MB
2GB 667MHz RAM (upgraded to 3GB myself)
200GB HDD 7200rpm (seagate)
1440x900 non glare display (lg, replaced by a samsung)
fingerprint reader
vista business to xp professional downgrade (you can use both)
3 years international guarantee
1. 3dmark06
i did the 3dmark06 benchmark at stock clock speeds (i think it's 500/799) with the stock dell driver 175.75. i am running the preinstalled xp pro operation system and most unnecessary background processes are disabled. i have:
8860 3dmarks
with a light overclock (600/900) i have:
9686 3dmarks
i think that's pretty nice. considering the slower cpu (2.4GHz vs. 2.8GHz) and the 175.75 stock dell driver, which is not optimized for gaming, the performance comes pretty close to the 8800GTX in the alienware/ notebooks (~9200 3marks) and it is pretty much the same like the mySN notebook's with the same processor (~8900 3dmarks).
this fact makes me think, that the fx3600 is probably rather a modified 8800gtx card than a gts and that the info shown by gpu-z is wrong. but who knows.
as the card can be overclocked even higher and also there is a way to oc the cpu, the notebook is able to get 10.000+ in 3dmark06.
btw: overclocking is very easy, you can just do it with ntune and there is no need to flash the vbios.
2. what's new
the notebook is very similar to the inspiron 9400/e1705 i had before.
the differences are:
a. different colour (makes it look a lot better)
b. the useless media direct button is used to switch between performance and battery save mode now (useful)
c. the battery is stronger (4 hours battery life vs. 2.5 hours)
d. fingerprint reader available................................
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Mar 4, 2009
Have been considering buying a Sony Z but wondering what the steps are to changing HDD in this laptop?
How hard is it? My vision is poor but I have changed HDDs before in laptops. Are there any photos or specific step-by-step guides that could help
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Apr 23, 2009
Are there steps to be taken before a factory restore - drivers etc?
(Beyond just backing up my data.)
This is an Acer 4530.
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Mar 27, 2009
Well returned my E6400 today went quite smoothly. The system was great with the exception of sending it with the wrong display a CCFL not the LED WXGA as in the outlet Details and Order Confirmation.
I been looking in the Outlet several times daily since Tuesday for a suitable placement, Tonight I scored one similar specs as the one I sent back , now I’m thinking ” see persistence and patience pays off”.
Check the specs one more time everything looks good, click checkout and confirm. Soon I browse my email Order confirmed WXGA LED click on the hyperlinked Order Number for a detailed view of components installed ……Lo and behold CCFL !!!!!!!
I immediately contacted Dell and explained the problem and cancelled my order, the agent told me to stay on the phone as she would transfer me to a sales rep who then will make sure I’ll get a LED display on a comparable spec’ed machine. 30 minutes later the sale agent answered and questioned what system listed in the Outlet would I be interested in.
I explained I was told she would work that out for me and find something similar to my past orders but with an actual LED display, she then said all she had was what was listed and further stated that one cannot go by order confirmation of what the system specs were
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Dec 3, 2009
This is the config, per the packing list:
Studio XPS 16 Notebook
Intel CoreTM i7-820QM
8GB, DDR3, 1333MHz 2 Dimm
16.0 inch Wide Screen 16:9 1080p Full HD RGBLED LCD w/2.0 MP, XPS 1645
ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4670 1GB
256GB Dell High Performance Solid State Hard Drive 2.5MM
Merlot Red High Gloss Finish with Leather XPS 1645
Genuine Windows 7 Professional, 64bit, English
Integrated 10/100 Network Card
8X DVD+/-RW Slot Load Drive (Dell mistake, BluRay was ordered, its enroute)
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi MB
Intel WiFi Link 5300 802.11AGN Half Mini Card
9-cell Battery
Programs and Features:
Device Manager:
Disk Management:
Autoruns:
Running Processes (All 80 of them!!):
(Windows) Startup items:
Control Panel:
System Tray:
Windows Experience Index:
Startup time (From power-on to logon, no peripherals attached, power connected):
28.0 seconds
ATTO Disk Benchmark:
(Transfer size 0.5 to 8192 KB, Total length: 256MB, Direct I/O enabled, Overlapped I/O, Queue Depth: 4)
CrystalMark DiskMark:
CrystalMark Mark2004R3:
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Jan 11, 2015
the steps to downgrade or install windows 7 in my HP 15-r111ns notebook?
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Oct 15, 2009
It seems like there are a bunch of people who are getting a system exchange, but have been waiting over a month to receive the system. Please post your system exchange details and any estimates given by Dell support here so we can get a better idea of how long this takes during this time of the year....
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Feb 20, 2009
I play a video game, and my fps will go from 70-80fps, then just SPIKE to like 2fps and I will get artifacts.. I figured it was a display driver, I've tried probably 20-30 of them now (just random vista 32 bit drivers), all with the same results. When I monitor my task manager I'm using 100% of my CPU Usage, and around 1gig of ram while a game is running. I am trying to figure out 1) what the deal is and 2) how to resolve it...
Here are my specs:
Dell
Inspirion 9400
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz 2.00GHz
2046MB RAM
Vista 32-bit Operating System
NVIDIA Geforce Go 7900 GS
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Dec 6, 2009
I have a 1 yr old Macbook Unibody (13.3"- Late 2008 model).
I have the 2.4Ghz version.
Anyway, here's what I have:
Original Batt Capacity = 4100mAh.
Current = 3953mAh (can dip to 3800 at times)
Battery Load cycles = 58
I'm currently running on batteries. I only have my browser opened along with some widgets and WIFI. I've taken all energy saving steps as well (lowest possible brightness on screen and keys) Currently sitting on 86% w/ 3 hours left..............
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Aug 28, 2009
on OS X is there any way to see some details on a file by hovering your cursor over it? Ex: If I hover my mouse on a JPG on my desktop I can see the dimensions (like 1920x1200) and the filesize (like 2.3MB). Is there any way to enable this on my Macbook Pro?
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Dec 24, 2007
Could a few technologists in the know give me a detailed rundown on the primary differences between the three nVidia card options for the E1705/9400?
I quickly replaced my original X1400 with a dual pipe 7900GS but I am now interested in either moving up to a 7900GTX or a 7950GTX. I know I will also need to upgrade to the 130W or 150W PS as well.
I am looking for comparison information regarding memory, clockspeeds, pipeline counts, pixel/vertex units, pixel/fill rates, processing bandwidth, etc.
I am also curious about a good source for the purchase of any of these items. I have found one posting on eBay for a 7950GTX. I am interested to know if I can purchase directly from Dell, or save a few bucks by purchasing from eBay or a forum member. I also know I have read that there are equivalent Quadro (sp?) cards which will work in my machine. Are there any disadvantages to taking this route?
I know I could dig through a thousand plus posts on the topics and find all of the information I want, but I also know how much you guys thrive on expressing your technical expertise on subjects such as this ..........................
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Jul 25, 2014
I have a CQ61-310SV with the F.07 BIOS revision. On the BIOS downloads section here I can see the fixes for the F.15 revision. Where can I read about the changes in the versions inbetween? (F.08-F.14)
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Jan 10, 2009
What the latest Dell notebook is available nvidia quadro as its graphic card?
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Nov 18, 2007
earlier this year I moved to vista , having good performance under games and a 3dmark05 score of 6500-7500.. , over the course of the year I had many reinstalls cause I wanted to check both X86 and X64 versions of Vista , and decided to stay with x64.
now I don't exactly know when exactly it happend - but a few months back I noticed my 3dmark05 score went down to 3300-3700 , well I thought .. maybe just a bad driver , so over the last 2 months i've tried many driver versions (155.xx , 156,xx , 169.xx from Laptopvideo2go and NBF) and I had the same results with all , I did fresh driver installs so thats not due to bad install or anything like it.
since I'm Currently playing WoW only :P I don't have any other benchmarks to run , Aquamark doesn't work under x64 and I don't know about any good benchmark tools.
something else I noticed which im sure is relevant - I remember that before having those problems my Temps went to the roof while gaming (93-94c) and 73c when idle , now with the new sets of drivers I have about 83c when gaming and 67c idle , now don't get me wrong .. im happy with those temps , but that also means my card doesn't stress itself to the max.
my 1st guess was Powermizer feature , Tried disabling it in the nv_disp.inf without any luck.. I'm not too sure if I managed to disable it.. GPU-Z always "sees" my clocks (500/600) at max.
I also thought about installing an old driver version but honestly I don't remember which drivers were ok to use under vista x64.
so I would really appriciate Ideas , that is before I do format C: ( I really want to avoid it this time).
Dell 1705 , 2GB Ram , T7200 , Quadro 2500m.
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Mar 11, 2008
I have been out of high school for two years now and working as a waiter and I am still living with my parents. My dad told me to do something with my life or move out .
Anyway, I decided to go to ITT tech for digital entertainment and Game Design. I guess my dad was glad because he said that I could have his old XPS M1710. Well, my buddy is in school for game design and said that I have to have Quadro graphics for game design.
But, I can't find anything that says that there is such a thing as Quadro with a M1710.
My buddy has an Alienware notebook so he is no help with my Dell, but he swaers that M1710s can have the Quadro. I tried calling Dell and they said that M1710 don't come with Quadros.
Anyway, is there such a thing as Quadro M1710? If so how do I get it. Do you need a new motherboard or is a card and how much would it cost me. Right now my M1710 has a ATI x1400 video and from what I read won't help me at all in school.
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Sep 3, 2009
according to this site linkhttp://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-...ist.844.0.html
it appears to be apart from a few minor things but basically were talking 280m power here ?
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May 11, 2009
Why is a lot of people on ebay selling the m2400 with a quadro fx 380
Dell dont have the 380 on their homepage and i cant find it on nvidias homepage eiter
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Apr 10, 2010
My laptop is a D630 with Windows Vista 32 which otherwise was working perfectly.
First the facts:
-Starting last week, my screen started to switch off without apparent reason requiring a hard reboot each time it happened since nothing else worked to bring it back to life.
-Then it started getting worse, one of the times I rebooted I got a split screen (two identical bad quality images one on top of the other) and the only way I managed to get out of it was to disable the nvidia driver (I had already tried to revert to the previous one and it was failing as well). Only problem with that is that playing video with the Nvidia disabled is a nightmare since the image slows down a lot and it's not synchronized with the sound.
-I tried to install the latest drivers from Dell (it seemed to be working then), and then I installed the latest ones from Nvidia and started having problems again.
-At some point during all this, my Windows lost the ability to suspend or hibernate.
-When I thought about restoring the system, it was already too late to go back to before the problem started, since all the available restoring points where more recent than that. (I know, slow reflexes on my part). I still tried to restore to when the new Dell drivers were working but the restoring failed (several times).
-Once or twice I managed to re-enable the driver and make it work for a few hours but the "screen turn off" eventually appears again.
Now the questions:
-Does anyone have a solution for this?
-Has it happened to anyone else? I searched D630 and Nvidia in the forums but all the threads I found were from 2008 and older.
-What's the next step, what should I do now?
-Would re-installing Windows be the only option, or it wouldn't help at all since I'd still have a driver problem?
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Oct 2, 2008
I'm starting to get some weird video symptoms on my Latitude D830 with the Nvidia Quadro NVS140M video. Fairly random at this point, maybe once or twice a week, the screen does something weird in terms of displaying stuff that it completely shouldn't, even during boot-up.
Don't know if this chip is a member of the family of Nvidia chips that suffers from the bugs, but has anyone else experienced this with a heavily-used Latitude D830 yet?
If I have to get a new motherboard, has Nvidia actually implemented a solution, or are they still shipping the same parts? I have ~3 years of warranty left (plus the bonus year), but I don't look forward to a motherboard replacement every year or so.
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Oct 2, 2009
I purchased an FX 1600M to replace my fried 7900GS. BIOS didn't recognize it. At the beginning of the boot screen I realized that the card was "engineering sample" and I couldn't install nvidia drivers by double clicking on the setup file because no compatible card recognized. I only could install them from the device manager by updating drivers and pointing out the extracted drivers folder. I use A09 BIOS and Windows XP.
Everest and gpuz say that the card is Quadro fx1600. On every speed setup ati tool showed artifacts, even with downclock!
However the card managed both 3dmark 05 and 06. Actually with good marks.
The card had 2 heatpipes but since my case needed modification I decided to change heatpipes with my old GF7900 gs. With 1 heatpipe I installed it in my Dell E1705. Can it be a heat problem that atitool showed artifacts? I also use i8kfan to check heat run and while gaming temperature went up to 84 degrees. Idle temperature was 60 degrees (corrected with gpuz). I will modify my case soon and install it with 2 heatpipes again.
Does anybody know about "engineering sample" gpu's?
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Jan 13, 2008
i have an m90 t520 with 4gb ram and fx2500m,runing vista ultimate with dx10.
i try to run crysis and i cant get it to run with very high and on high it barely runs, i updated my gpu nvidia driver to 7.15.10.9808 , and still cant run it good , i tried to get a modified inf but my laptop kept on giving me the blue screen and crashes everytime i try to run crysis or even 3dmark06
if anyone can provide a working inf or a good driver with the latest inf modified installed that would be great.
and maybe an answear on why i can run the damn game on very high with dx10 even though my laptop is more then qualified to run it
dell m90 , t5200 core 2 duo,4gb ddr2 5400,nvidia quadrofx2500,wxga+ 1440.900.
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Aug 27, 2009
some month ago i upgrade my bad 7900GS to a Quadro 1600M.
i have a great problem with internal monitor with a black screen.
now i use with external monitor and DVI and work
i try with a M90 monitor and work perfectly. i try my monitor with m90 and work.
what can i do? i read about flash with other bios but i don't understand.
i have to donwload bios of dell m6300? or i have to change my video driver?
probably new quadro card have different voltage.
i try also different OS: win Xp, Vista, Ubuntu, Win 7
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Dec 28, 2007
I just modded my quadro fx3500m into a geforce 7950gt using the rivatuner. I did this because i thought the card would perform better while playing games. However there was no improvement and some games like NfsProstreet became slower. My 3dmark06 slipped from 5867 to 5734.Has this happened to anybody else,or did i go wrong somewhere?
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Mar 6, 2009
Does anyone know why this card is RIDICULOUSLY RIDICULOUSLY and last but not least RIDICULOUSLY TERRIBLE!!??
I installed CoD5 and the graphics looked no better than my 7950gtx NOR my 128mb ATI which is about 5 years old. It even looks terrible playing Warcraft 3. Even looks bad when playing vista chess- i can see the jagged edges.
WTH GIVES?!
I might as well get a laptop geforce 6800, and it will BLOW BLOW BLOW the newer Quadro 2700m away anyday any night.
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