Acer :: GPU Throttling Aspire Gemstone
Mar 23, 2010
I experience stutter and frame rate drop after about 40 minutes of gaming. Something is triggering Nvidia Powermizer to slow down my GPU. After the GPU drops in performance it stays there unless I restart my computer. this is not related to cpu downclocking because i'm running throttlesop. more info in my sig.
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Jul 29, 2009
The Definitive Guide to Acer Aspire Gemstone Blue Throttling Issues v2.0
Credit Due to DarkSilver, ATG, Sgogeta4, and Unclewebb
This thread is specifically designed to put an end to the multitude of threads about people asking why their Aspire 6920G, 6930G, 6935G, 8920G, or 8930G is experiencing lackluster performance in gaming.
What Causes It
We’re not 100% certain, but through a process of elimination, we believe there are two possible causes:
•That a sensor on the motherboard is going haywire, reading internal temperatures entirely wrong. As a result, the system’s BIOS believes the CPU’s temperature is reaching dangerous levels when it’s really well within operating limits, and causes a thermal throttle to be activated. This halves the CPU’s performance until the temperatures are returned to what the system perceives as safe levels.
•It could also be potentially linked to a ridiculously low setting in the BIOS and not the fault of a motherboard sensor – this was refuted by my travel to Acer’s Canadian headquarters, where a stock 6920G was shown to operate just fine, with no throttling whatsoever. That being said, given the large number of users affected, it's still a possibility.....................
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Dec 5, 2008
i have a acer aspire 8920g that i got 3 months ago and i have vista 64bit installed in it.i want to change it to xp or even vista 32 because i do not like vista 64 but i think drivers will be an issue since this thing has a driver installed for everything.is there going to be a problem with the drivers?and if so can i find all the main drivers somewhere for it?
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Apr 11, 2009
From what i see from the Acer Aspire Gemstone official page. It would seem like all models in that series has 1020p display regardless of screen size from the specifications page.
However, I have two laptops in question right now.
First is my friend's 6935G which is featured in the official page and is said to have a Full HD display on its 16" screen. However, the maximum resolution available on my the laptop is only 1366x768. Furthermore, there is a sticker on the laptop indicating "Full 1020p HD display" and no, I did not get confused with it over the "Full 1020p HD Playback"
Secondly, is my own personal 6930Z which is essentially almost the same except the lack of the 9600GT, biometric fingerprint reader and blu-ray player found in the 6935G thus its low price. As seen from the website, the WHOLE series is supposed to have 1020p resolution display which mine is part of. However, my max display resolution capable is also the same as the 6935G although mine doesn't have the sticker that the 6935G has. I'm not complaining due to mine being a budget model but shouldn't the 6935G have the touted 1020p display?
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Apr 16, 2010
My notebook has worked fine until about half a year ago when the CPU is overheating from doing little tasks such as skyping and having the internet open. So I read up on the topic and ended up here. I have rmclock installed and adjusted it a bit but no real effect. I also don't want to mess up my laptop by frying it.
For the Aspire 6920G with Intel T5750 @ 2GHz what do I have to set my FID and VID at?
other question:
Would you recommend upgrading my CPU or is the current one sufficient? (I use it for occasional gaming (Empire total war) and multimedia applications such as photo-shop)
If so what other components would I have to change?
Would it increase the performance of my laptop?
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Oct 20, 2008
Well I just Bought the last saturday an acer gemstone blue 6920. The model with the intel gma x3100 and it came with Windows Vista Premium. The first thing that i did was to install the newest drivers of vga..i downloaded them from the intel website but the results were ugly..
I decided to downgrade the OS to Windows XP Pro...And I did it i have to put my HD on IDE MODE from the bios and install without a problem..
I downloaed the xp drivers...
After this i played fifa 09 but in two time the game crashes and when i closed the game with ALT+F4 i saw the next message:
THE SCREEN DRIVER IGXPRD2 STOP WORKING etc etc and the screen went like if I doesnt have any driver so i have to restart
Searching via google I found that there is an old driver(6.14.10.4859) that makes the performance on gaming a little better...well i found the driver and installed.
The results? Yeah it was true the fps in games were a little better but when it seems to be all normal THEN THE GAME CRASHES AND BSOD!
Yeah Blue screen of death so i have to restart...only have been happenned two times and the gameplay is much better than with the latest drivers but i need to do something with that BSOD...It doesn't appear much but its a problem.....
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Jun 16, 2009
Are the new models by Acer, the 8935G and the 5935G, based on the Gemstone Blue design?
Because both look very different from the 6935G, 8930G etc.
Is that a new design and Acer hasn't announced it yet?
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Aug 27, 2009
my laptop has just died. I purchased the product just under 1 year ago and it came with a 1 year warranty.
I have an ACER 4920g 2Ghz (T7300), 2Gb RAM, 256Mb Graphics, Vista Home Premium.
Fortunately I store very little on the laptop so this is not a data retrieval exercise!
I was sat surfing the net tonight, and pop!, the whole unit went dead. I was running it from the mains at the time and there were no performance symptoms that suggested it might be on its way out.
The battery pack has a green light on it which flashes when it is connected to the laptop now, but is solid when I unplug it from the laptop. the light used to be solid all the time. Is this flashing an error code?
When the power pack is plugged into the laptop, the blue power light on the laptop does not light up. pressing the power button does nothing, the fans do not kick into action, absolutely nothing.
The laptop has no signs of life whatsoever - at the time it went pop, it just powered down within 1 second, like a power failure. it did have a charge in it.
The fact that it had charge in it and it was connected to the mains is making me think there has been some kind of internal failure - a processor failing? or motherbaord failing? or the connection between the motherboard and the power button?
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May 23, 2008
I am quite tempted to buy the AS8920-6048. This model is available in the USA now and comes with 802.11a/b/g wlan. Due to my need to stream HDTV I'd like to have 802.11n. The AS8920-6671 comes with it and is almost double the price. So the question is can I get the AS8920-6048, replace the a/b/g mini-pcie card by the 4695AGN and be done with it? The latter has 3 antenna leads, while the former only 2 antenna leads. It boils down to whether acer uses the same anteannae setups for all the 8920s and just varies the card, or do they actually put in extra antenna in the as8920-6671?
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Nov 17, 2008
There's all little bits of white dust in the speaker panel and it won't come out if I try to vacuum it.
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May 16, 2008
I have ordered an Acer Gemstone Blue 6920g which is due to be delivered next week sometime.
I was wondering if anyone else already owns one of the gemstone blue laptops and has tried a laptop bag or case out for it.
The gemstone blue laptops come in a 16 inch and 18.4 inch screen size and have an aspect ratio of 16:9 instead of 16:10.
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Dec 15, 2009
Like many of you, i to had this throttling problem that occurs after couple minutes of play.
I read threads that describe how to fix this using RMClock and undervolting CPU, but i decided to try find some simpler and safer solution. I found this option that slows down processor before increasing fan speed. After i turned it off, i didnt experience any more performance drops.
Heres where you can find it:
-first go to Power options on control panel
-select Change plan settings for High Performance
-click Change advanced power settings
-scroll down to Processor power management and expand
-expand system cooling policy
-change value to Passive like shown in picture:
Im not sure that this will work for anyone, or that i had real throttling problem, but this really helped me. Before i could play up to 20-30 min maximum before my laptop performance started to drop and games started lagging. I tested this solution on dirt2 for 2 days and so far i didnt experience any performance drop, yay
You can see my specs in my signature.
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May 19, 2010
I've had the Acer 6920G for quite some time, I realized I should put a stop to throttling/downclocking.
I tried the several ways which came from this site, especially from flipfire and DarkSilver. I already undervolted my cpu, but after I played L4D2 for about 10 mins it started to throttle again. And the post which DarkSilver made was to go to regedit and change some settings in the RightMark CPU Utility, I've done that yet it still throttled.
I also attempted to go to BIOS and check if I could disable EIST, but there was no option. Does anyone have any idea how to solve this? I've updated my drivers and everything, and I also upgraded to Windwos 7 - but it still stays the same way.
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Dec 17, 2009
i've sent my computer for repair because it doesnt shutdown properly. it turns out the something is wrong with the board and they have to replace it. the service center is going to order a new board from acer. do you think with the replacement of the new board the throttling problems on 6920g will disapppear?
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Dec 8, 2014
I recently bought an Acer VN7-591g laptop. When the laptop is idling in windows the CPU is around 51°C. When I start CSGO I get temperatures up to 98°C. When it reaches such high temperatures, it throttles down to the lowest possible multiplyer (x8) and the FPS goes down drastically. The temperature almost instantly goes down to around 68°C and then starts to increaste very fast as the CPU goes up in terms of multipliers. It's needless to say that the FPS varies a lot and makes the game annoying to play.
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Is this normal? I've read that this laptop shouldn't have problems with throttling. And the temperatures close to 100°C on a regular basis is something I'm not confident with. What are the expected temperatures? I really want to get a stable and good gaming performance out of this laptop.
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Jun 26, 2009
Here's the bullet points:I was only able to get the machine to throttle ONCE in front of them. I'm absolutely stumped why my 6920G behaved so well (do they have Acer-be-good signals on their property? ), but I think it may have something to do with my resetting of the GPU back to stock clocks. I'm going to keep it there and see.That being said, they at least know that the system does throttle at a lower temperature than it should.
They suspect it's a motherboard, fan, or BIOS issue, but couldn't hammer it down without taking my system for more time than I had.I was not able to get a stock 6920G to throttle AT ALL. They brought out a model with a T5750 Core 2 Duo and BIOS v1.06, and using ORTHOS I was able to get it to and above 60 degrees without a single stutter or throttle. This may denote that the problem is not as systematic as we originally imagined, or that the demo system was the exception.In any case, they'll happily take my system and fix it up properly whenever I don't need it anymore. (of course, I will need to slide the original CPU back in) So, what does that mean for those of us who do throttle every now and again?
Unfortunately, there isn't a one-size-fits-all fix. Since the problem occurs across CPUs and BIOSes, it's up to YOU, the user, to find a solution that works. And what works for you may not work for everyone else.
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Jun 3, 2009
I am experiencing a problem with my 6920g laptop throttling down when playing games when the heat increases eg. GTA IV.
I've already tried just using RM-Clock Utility and setting it for max performance but yet it still clocks down with heat increase.
I’ve seen an excellent guide on here for lowering the voltage of my laptop so would this help with gaming (as well as the general running of the laptop)
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Mar 20, 2008
my Ferrari 4005 is 3 years old and time to upgrade, so I am glad this littel Gem is getting released very soon.What do you think of the specs?
Quote:
Gemstone Blue available in two models, the 8920 and 6920.
The 8920 features a 18.4", full 1080p resolution (1920 x 1080), 16:9 display for use with the notebook's
built-in Blu-Ray drive or other sources. The 6920 varies slightly, featuring a smaller, 16" display.
The 8920 features five integrated speakers and a CineBass booster for 5.1 surround output, while the
6920 features 2.1 output. But the Gemstone Blue isn't just for movie buffs, gamers will also enjoy the
Blue's up to 320GB hard drive capacity and Nvidia GeForce 9500M GS graphics card with 512MB of memory.
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Feb 12, 2010
I see all those threads about throttling, but they all are about the How and Why's, but none seems to tell me what throttling is / how i can recognize that my laptop is throttling.
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Feb 8, 2010
I just got a new Studio XPS 1647. Specs are i7-620M, 128 GB SSD, 4 GB RAM, RGBLED, and the standard ATI 4670. Now that dell actually appears serious about fixing the throttling problem, I am seriously considering keeping the laptop. I would however like to make a few modifications. I need to actually put the correct RAM into the computer (they put in 133Mhz rather than 1067, i know its lol). More importantly I would like to change the GPU out for an ATI 57xx series. My question is can I put in a 5730/5750/5770 and not void the warranty? Also have the 5750 and 5770 even been released yet? It seems like it can only be a win-win situation. The 57xx series runs on less power (25-30W compared to the 35W of the 4670), and also they are faster, DDR5 with the two higher end models.
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Mar 12, 2010
I have read a lot on this problem and just did some testing on my system.
I am running Modern Warfare 2 and within a few minutes my throttling begins; cpu drops to 700mhz and then doubles and then full speed... I have CPUZ running on second monitor watching it progress.
Next step, I disable the PowerPlay in the CCC ATI Control Panel; pick the game up where I left with CPUZ running on the second monitor... 30 minutes later; ZERO throttling.
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Nov 17, 2008
I've got a 1330 with a T7250 processor, 4gigs of ram and a 8400GS.
I run my notebook all day long undervolted (tested stability a lot using orthos) so temperatures are less.
I also use RMClock to max out the cpu frequency when connected to AC (so that it stays locked at 2 ghz whenever i am in AC mode)
Also, my 8400 gs is Overclocked to 600/825 from stock 400/600.
The thing is the following:
when running COD4, every once in a while my frames drop noticeably. I then went to investigate this and using RMClock's monitoring tool i noticed that the frame drop was consistent to a throttling of the CPU.
However, whenever i test out my pc with ORTHOS or rthdribl i get higher temperatures than when running COD4 and the CPU doesn't ever thottle itself...
As you can see, this is a pretty strange thing because temperature is NOT being the "throttling factor" over here, as it is almost all times. I also have the gpu copper mod applied and haven't ever passed out 80 degrees on the gpu (which are pretty normal temps for an xps1330, specially overclocked)
What do you think could be causing this? It is really bugging me a a lot. Could it be maybe unstable voltages or something?
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Feb 10, 2010
In recent light of the the throttling investigation and incoming fix on the 1645 and 1647 models, Ive been instructed to make a separate thread to investigate the same issues for the 1640. If you have a 1640 with throttling issues please post any information in this thread. This is a new thread covering the same issue as the other problematic 164X's. Throttling.
Unclewebb can back me up on all of this as I went through these tests with him, the same tests he used to determine throttling on all other 164Xs models.
At full GPU and CPU load, mulitplier scales back to 6x and 3x. My 2.93ghz t9800 then clocks down to 1500mhz and 798mhz respectively.
Programs used: RMclock, CPU-Z, GPU-Z, 3Dmark06, Prime95, Throttlestop
For Bill: Original 1640 threads where users started reporting throttling. Joker first reported throttling on the 1640s when he had a 3670.
==>The Official Studio XPS 1640 + ATi 4670 GPU Owner's Thread <== *Part 2*
===> The Official Studio XPS 1640 + ATi 4670 GPU Owner's Thread<===
**A user has decided to run a few gaming tests to prove it effects in real world everyday performance........................
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Jan 31, 2009
I have a dv7-1135 nr laptop .. spec's are as follow's amd turion x2 rm-70 cpu speed is 2.0 each core. the problem I notice is that my cpu is slowing down at the wrong time.
I use the program cpu to determine that my cpu is dropping sometimes as low as 500mhz .
I know that laptops have a throttling function but i have that disabled . I have looked in the bios for that feature also and can not turn it off. can someone please Help as i do notice an extreme loss of power during gaming .
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Feb 9, 2010
So before I yell BS at Apple Care Support I hope some of you mac owners could clarify some questions for me. The only thing different about the Macbook Pro 17 I have is the T9900 CPU (3.06ghz), well onto my "problem".
I recently installed Windows 7 on my MB (No OSX present on the HDD), used BootCamp3.0 drivers from my OSX DvD and updated those to 3.1, so all drivers for the Hardware under Windows 7 have been installed -everything working nifty.
My problem is whenever I tax my system to the max (Read 100% CPU usage) the two CPU cores quickly reach 100-104Degrees, the fans kick in, but little do they help, the system instead clocks the CPU frequency down to first 2.8->2.6->....ending up at 1.5Ghz -the fans do nothing, since it never goes back to 3.06Ghz unless I stop the cpu intensive task.
Meaning under full load I can only utilize "~50%" of the power in my system. Do any of you have an idea why this happens? Its important to add that the MB is sitting on a flat table in a normally tempd. room, also the MB was bought October'09 so it is probably not dust clogging the fans........................
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May 24, 2010
I've been having some throttling issues with my 1558 for a past few days. I've been using it in the us but i'm on vacation now n i'm working on a 220V supply! Does that affect the performance of the adapter in any way?
My config is a core i5 520m,4GB ddr3, ati 4570 512mb,1080p screen.
I was playing Burnout Paradise n my system slowed down after 10 min of gameplay! I noticed that the CPU multiplier was frozen at 9. I really dunno y that happened! I've been playing the same game for hours together back home and it din seem to affect it in any way!
I tried updating it the latest BIOS that came out (A05) and that din help either. It also happened with a few other games as well.
I tried using throttlestop to just confirm that it was the CPU. The games was playing fine for 15 min wen the system just shut off!!
So I just tried to play for one last time with throttlestop off and it was actually fine till I got a critical error msg n my screen wasn't showing color properly!!
Have I fried my graphic card somehow?? Or is my adapter just not strong enuf to handle the load n hence throttling the system??
I tried updating my drivers to v10.4 N it kept saying INF not found n I had to install it indirectly.
Any way to find out if I've screwed up the graphic card?? I'm scared to push it with a game and screw up the system!!
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Feb 8, 2010
for 130 Watt Adapter and update to the latest BIOS
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Mar 23, 2010
I just bought an SXPS 1647 (I believe... I have the core i5-540 processor) and I wanted to know how the throttling issue effects these models.
Is it less of an issue because the i5's are less power hungry?
Has there been any response from dell about the throttling on this model? Are people requesting the 130Watt adaptor?
System:
i5-540
4GB RAM
128GB SSD
RGBLED 1080p Screen
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Jan 23, 2010
Everywhere talked only 1645 throttling problem and dell fix 1645 and so on.. If Dell fix 1640 throttling problem to?
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May 5, 2010
I was thinking about buying a notebook cooler, most likely the COOLER MASTER NotePal Infinite Notebook Cooler and i was just wondering if it would increase throttling as it draws its power from the laptop .....
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