Dell :: Who Seals The Edge To Edge Display
Jun 3, 2009
I had my screened replaced yesterday due to dust underneath the screen. And now i just noticed 3 specs underneath it. My question is how these poorly sealed screens get by dell's quality control? Thank god i got the 2 year onsite on top of the 1 year return to depot. I think ill be using it alot for this problem right now im not gonna worry about it. I will wait for another problem to pop up but if that dosent in 6 months ill just have it replaced again. Anyone else have a poorly sealed screen on the Studio xps 16?
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Aug 14, 2009
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Heres a video I made to demonstrate the ammount of flex on the edge to edge lid. It does have flex and bend, but its not as bad as the one j3n82 reported. I recorded with an iPhone so the video quality is crap. Also forgot I had left it in portrait mode when I recorded it (I didn't have a tripod so I used a cup lol). But I hope it gives some of you a basic idea of the quality. I thought openning the blinds to allow the vertical lines will show the bend/flex a lot more. I was applying quite a bit of pressure, although it doesn't seem like I was in the video. I felt as if any harder I might have damage something, or maybe pop the edge to edge screen out. I used an 8lb dumbell, I think thats the limit.
If you noticed the cloth I used to cover the keyboard when I closed the screen, I did this this to avoid getting the smudges on the screen when I pushed the lid down onto the keyboard.
At the end of the video I tried showing the Edge to Edge display, notice how theres another layer of screen over the bezel. Thats the difference between the edge to edge.
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Jun 17, 2009
A lot of laptops now a days are sporting the edge to edge display, which imo is pretty cool lookin. I think Apple was one of the first to implement this in their notebooks so thats why I'm posting here.
But are these edge to edge displays really glass? I went to bestbuy to find out.
Checking out all the laptops from HP, Dell, and Apple, all their displays showed some form of flex when pushing on the center of the screen with my index finger. I'm no expert or anything, but glass is not supposed to flex at all.
Apple's notebook had the least amount of flex and probably is glass cause its so thin, whereas the Dell studio xps13 flexed so much it was unbelievable. I'm surprised this was not brought up in reviews.
Just to make sure it wasn't in my head I did the same thing to the imacs, and those screens were rock solid. Without a doubt are covered in glass.
So whats you're take on Apple's notebook? Glass or not?
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Nov 7, 2009
The thing they call "edge to edge glass" which is really just plastic above an ordinary screen. The thing is, that the screen under that edge to edge plastic is a nice anti-glare screen, no kidding! You can see this if you take your laptop in sunlight and tilt it the right way.
So what's happening is you're getting the worst part of an anti-glare screen (reduced contrast ratio) plus the worst part of a glossy screen (unless you have a really pretty face).
I took the plastic thing off, cut along the black/clear border, pulled out the middle, and stuck the centerless border back on the laptop.
Result? THIS SCREEN IS FANTASTIC. Yeah ok, of course I would say that. But if you knew me, you'd know that was way out of the ordinary and really meant that THIS SCREEN IS FANTASTIC.
One thing you may not have considered is that the screen in its default position has yet another flaw, both sides of that glossy plastic thing are glossy, so some of the light coming from the screen is reflected back to the screen, and as you know light reflected onto the screen has a yellowish tint. That is my guess as to why the whites on this screen are really really white now, and the screen is much brighter. This also explains why other 300nit screens used to look so much brighter than this.
I will have more pics when I am able to charge the battery to my good camera. If anyone has any questions about removing that plastic thing I'll be happy to answer your questions, it's actually pretty easy. For those interested, here is how I did it:
1. I removed the "star" head screws, this was accomplished not with a special star head screw driver, but an ordinary flat head precision screw driver.
2. Put some paper over a hacksaw blade to avoid scratching, wedged it under the plastic near the top where the camera is, and snapped out the first of the several lock-in points on along the top edge. I proceeded to detatch the rest of the top of the screen in this way.
3. Both the left and right sides were held on mostly by adhesive, the very edge point locks in slightly, but the efforts removing these sides are focused mainly on separating the adhesive bond.
4. I pulled upward on the plastic and it came right off, there seems to be no adhesive or lock-in points on the bottom side.
5. Using the center of the screen as a test area, I tested several cutting utilities and decided on the utility knife. To my surprise, the plastic was about 1mm thick.
6. I clamped the screen down to the table, with a straight edge positioned 1mm inward of the black line, to give headroom for errors.
7. I cut along these lines, and repeated step 6 for each side, and pushed out the center to reveal the border piece that now resembled a common laptop screen enclosure border.
8. I used a medium grit sand paper to bring the cut lines to meet the black lines, and finished it off with a fine grit sand paper.
9. I applied some electrical tape to the area between the edge of the screen itself, and the edge of the laptop on the right and left sides because there was light leakage, and then popped the border back on and screwed it down.
Found the charger! Here's the high res shots. They do *some* justice to the screen quality.
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Aug 4, 2009
How does this screen do for viewing blu-ray movies? I know that everyone is raving about the RGBLED, but if this option is still good, then I'll go with it, because it's about $250 cheaper...
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Nov 7, 2009
I went insane and cut along the black-to-clear border of the m1340 screen thing. The thing they call "edge to edge glass" which is really just plastic above an ordinary screen.
The thing is, that the screen under that edge to edge plastic is a nice anti-glare screen, no kidding! You can see this if you take your laptop in sunlight and tilt it the right way.
So what's happening is you're getting the worst part of an anti-glare screen (reduced contrast ratio) plus the worst part of a glossy screen (unless you have a really pretty face).
I took the plastic thing off, cut along the black/clear border, pulled out the middle, and stuck the centerless border back on the laptop.
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Apr 22, 2010
I saw on the Dell website when customizing a Studio 15 that they give the option for that. From what my research finds that it is simply a glosser screen? Is that right?
What are the benefits and the down side to these edge-to-edge screens?
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Nov 5, 2013
I have Thinkpad Edge E330 bought this July, with win8 downgraded to win7. It recently started a problem where the laptop's own display doesn't display anything (just blank) if I don't have external display connected. The external display doesn't have be in use, just connected, and E330's own display works fine. If I disconnect the external display, the E330's own display goes blank also. It doesn't matter what display setting I have.Currently I'm not able to use my E330 as a laptop at all.
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I own an Edge 15, 64 bit processor. It came with 2gb RAM. I recently purchased and installed two 4 gb cards for a total of 8gb RAM. I updated my BIOS. Under "Computer>Properties" it is showing only 4 gb Install RAM. Why is it not reading or the system not using the additional 4 gb of RAM on the second card?
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Feb 20, 2014
My Edge E40 has no display, I tried
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-Removing the RAM HDD CD and tried booting
-Attaching to my old CRT monitor
NOTHING works
How can one find if it is booting at all since there is no HDD indicator in E40..??
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I'm encountering having just purchased my laptop. None are dealbreakers and I'm not that put off by them but the fact that I'm not able to figure out a solution bothers me. Primarily, no matter what power setting I'm on or settings I change the display will turn off after 1 minute. Ther other power settings still come into play when they should (computer sleeps etc.) but I'm not able to delay the screen turning off.
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I have a user with a 68855TU. Using Windows 7 64 bit.
When running dual screens and connecting to the Terminal server with Dual screen, dragging the mouse cursor to the top of the laptop screen the image on both screens will move a couple of inches.
Solutions tried so far:
-Tried lowering resolution of the screens on the client side. Issue still happened.
-Checked the driver driver. Going through Screen Resolution -> Advanced Settings, under one of the tabs there was a check box for "auto scroll function". Tried with and without this checkmark with no change. Left it off, the way I found it.
-In the RDP software, checked the "Use all my monitors for the remote session" (It was off, but all screens seemed to be getting used). Scrolling still happened. Turned this off. Only only monitor got the connection, and no scrolling.
-Also tried changing the display config down a step in the RDP connection. Given the laptop screen size and no scrolling happened with that setup.
-Tried using only laptop screen. No Scrolling.
-Tried using only the external screen. No scrolling.
-Used the Lenovo software to check for driver updates. None found.
-Downloaded the latest driver from Lenovo. Driver from April this year. Updated the computer. Reboot. Scrolling still happens.
-Tried to install the latest Intel drivers for the video chipset. Get the message that it has not yet been approved for use by manufacturer.
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2.) Updated drivers. (No good)
3.) Changed primary monitor. (No good)
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Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
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