Acer :: 1810t Abnormal Idle Power Consumption After X264 Video
Nov 19, 2009
Just got my new 1810t delivered today. Mine is the one with the SU4100.
Notice that at idle it goes to 5.5-6w. Great. After anything intensive I do it always drops down to that level. However, when i watch DXVA x264 accelerated video in MPC or WMP, i notice that after quitting my idle power consumption jumps an average of two watts. The only way to get back to normal idle power consumption is by putting the laptop into sleep mode, then waking it back up again.
Watching the same x264 video in VLC which does not support DXVA doesnt result in the increase in idle power consumption.
Watching DXVA accelerated youtube HD content with flash 10.1 doesnt increase power consumption either.
Running the latest (15.16.2.64.1986) video drivers, but the same problem was present on the stock drivers that came with the laptop. Version of those drivers was unknown. Wattage was measured using both batterymon, and batterybar.
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Feb 4, 2010
Just did some tests on my new laptop:
(No, I don't write this software -- but some people are mighty interested in detailed power consumption statistics)
The BatteryBar Pro software has a Watt-Meter...
I decided to play with the power consumption of my new Timeline 1810T 11.6" laptop (Core2 Duo ULV 1.3 Ghz, 4GB RAM, 320GB HDD). These are really high performance laptops in a netbook-size form factor.
GENERIC ACTIVITY
...Backlight minimum, WiFi+BT off, Power Saver unless otherwise indicated
4.5 watts - Idle in Power Saver, backlight turned off (Fn+F6)
5.0 watts - Idle in Power Saver
5.5 watts - Idle in High Performance
13 watts - 100% CPU, Power Saver
14 watts - 100% CPU, Max Performance
10.5 watts - Copying 1 gigabyte file between two folders via drag & drop
INTERNET ACTIVITY
...Backlight minimum, WiFi on, Bluetooth off, Power Saver
5.5 watts - Idling on WiFi on a static webpage (Chrome browser, Power Saver)
7.0 watts - Surfing the Internet on Wifi slowly (Chrome browser, bursty scrolling, occasional click, no Flash)
8.0 watts - Downloading a file to disk from static web page
10.0 watts - Webpage containing a continuously-moving Flash animation.
10.5 watts - Using YouTube over WiFi, standard-def, Power Saver
13.5 watts - Using YouTube over WiFi, high-def, Power Saver
15.0 watts - Surfing the Internet on Wifi rapidly (Clicking lots of links very fast, scrolling lots, moving mouse fast)
HD VIDEO FILE PLAYBACK
...1280x720p, 15Mbps, AVCHD H.264, video clip recorded from Panasonic Lumix ZS3
13.5 watts - Picasa, via COREAVC, Battery Saver, 80% CPU
14.0 watts - Picasa, via COREAVC, High Performance, 70% CPU
13.0 watts - Windows Media Player windowed, no OSD overlay (GPU decoding), Battery Saver, 20% CPU
13.5 watts - Windows Media Player fullscreen, no OSD overlay (GPU decoding), Battery Saver, 20% CPU
12.0 watts - PowerDVD, windowed, Battery Saver, Vista Basic (GPU decoding)
12.0 watts - PowerDVD, full screen, Battery Saver, Vista Basic (GPU decoding)
POWER INCREMENTS
...Similiar in both Power Saver and High Performance, unless otherwise indicated. For WiFi, on a 5 bar strength network.
+0.1 to 0.5 watts - Add if bluetooth turned on. Fluctuates. (Same in Power Saver or High Performance)
+0.3 watts - Add if wifi turned on, static web page (Power Saver)
+1.5 watts - Add if wifi turned on, static web page (High Performance)
+3.0 watts - Add if wifi turned on, downloading a file at medium speed from static web page.................................
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I am looking for a laptop with a matte display (at least 15.4'') and low power consumption, and so far I've selected these ones:
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In contrast they also report that the m440 will last 4hrs31min and 1hr35min respectively...
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My Bluetooth keyboard goes to sleep after a period of idle and it takes 15 seconds for the Acer Aspire 1810T to wake up and notice the Bluetooth keypresses.
However, I found out my Bluetooth keyboard works reliably when I have a second Bluetooth device connected and active at the time (such as either a headset or bluetooth tethering to a cellphone as modem), the computer doesn't have a 15 second lag in noticing the Bluetooth keyboard again - the keyboard works almost right away even after being unused for sometime.
So that means the culprit is in the power management on the Acer Bluetooth module. Is there a way to force the Bluetooth module to never go to sleep? Any checkbox somewhere, a register setting? Even going as far to purchase a different Bluetooth driver? Or any other option? Sometimes the sleep is useful, but it definitely isn't useful with the Bluetooth keyboard. This problem does not happen if I use an external Bluetooth dongle.
(With BatteryBar Pro, I notice that power consumption falls suddenly whenever the Bluetooth module goes to sleep when the keyboard goes idle for more than 30 seconds, and at this point, it has difficulty 'waking up' when I start typing on the Bluetooth keyboard. But the problem also still happens when the laptop is plugged in!)
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or
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The screen is a random color when this happens: sometimes green, blue or red. It is NOT the traditional "blue screen of death".
At first I thought it was due to some problems I was having with a conflict between The KM Player and Adobe Flash (as detailed here and here, for example). Luckily I had done Acronis 2010 images at each step of the way in the "new notebook" process:
- image made right out of the box by booting from Acronis disc first, before ever running Win7 on the computer (I call this the "Day 0 Image")
- image made after doing Windows Updates, Windows Security Essentials, installing apps (KM Player, IrfanView, FireFox, etc) and user data
Thinking the problem was due to the KM Player conflicts, I restored the computer back to when there was no KM Player, i.e. out-of-the-box Day 0 Image. This went fine and Acronis worked smoothly.
I did the Windows Updates but did not install any apps or user data... and the screen lockup still happens! Sometimes it happens soon after login, other times things run OK for a while first.
I am really concerned about this. If I can't rely on the computer to not lock up regularly, it is essentially useless to me. I am very surprised to see the problem even after an "out of the box" disk restore.
Any suggestions? Even if you don't have knowledge of how to deal with this problem specifically, do you know where else I can ask? What will Acer's take on this be? I am afraid they will just pass it off as "user error" and leave me stuck...
To Add:
1) I can't remember if this has happened only when on battery, or also when plugged in. I will check and see if it happens in both modes. If it only happens when on battery, at least that shows a path forward.
2) I have not tried to restore via the Acer eRecovery DVDs yet, though I don't know why this would be any better than the Acronis 2010 Day 0 image. I was in the process of burning the first Acer recovery DVD last night when... the screen locked up!
3) I have emailed Acer Support about the problem, though I suspect they won't trust Acronis 2010 and they'll tell me to restore via Acer eRecovery DVD...
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UPDATED FOR UBUNTU 10.04 LUCID LYNX
Here it comes, updated guide for Lucid.
Packard Bell / Gateway clones:
This guide has also been tested on a Packard Bell Dot M/U with bios v3303, and it should also work on the Gateway clone. If you have a 1410/1810 and something doesn't work, please report back.
What's working after a standard Ubuntu 10.04 install:GraphicsAudio out, speaker mutes when pluging in headphones. Good volume.Networking, both wireless (intel wifi 1000) and wired (the atheros gigabit)FN +:F4, suspends fineF6, monitor goes blackF7, touchpad on / offF8, muteF9, Bloq NumRePag: HomeAvPag: EndUp: increase volumeDown: decrease volumeRigh: increase brightness: skips steps.Left: decrease brightness: skips steps.J,K,L, etc: numeric keyboard ok.What's not working:Audio in: the integrated mic doesn't work.FN + F5: not recognised, doesn't toogle displaysAutomated Install (recommended): I've done a script that should do it all automatically. In detail:
What the script does:Configure gnome-power-manager backlight dim and hard disk power savingDownload, patch, install and setup acerhdfInstall the power saving scriptInstall the debugging scriptIf laptop-mode-tools is installed, suggest uninstalling and, if you want, uninstallFix the brightness hotkeys issue (jumps 2 levels on every key press)Disable ethernet Wake on Lan (doesn't enable when on AC)Disable uneeded services: cron, anacron and atd (they don't enable when on AC)What the script doesn't:Add the noatime parameter to the ext2/3/4 partitions in fstab. You'll have to do it manually.How it works:In a terminal, run ./InstallAcer_11.6_PowerSaving.sh --help to get a full list of options.If you want to install everything: ./InstallAcer_11.6_PowerSaving.sh --installDisclaimer:This script comes with no warranty. Use it at your own risk. I won't be responsible for any damage this could do to your system or data.Manual Install:
Power saving tips:The Script:By default, an ubuntu install won't take too much care of saving power, which is very important in an ultra mobile laptop. You can easily setup the system to enter some power saving modes, specifically the sata controller and the sound chip......................
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