HP Dv6-3121nr OS/Software :: Simple Pass - Not Detecting Fingerprint Reader

Feb 27, 2011

I'm having a problem with the fingerprint reader and HP simple pass identity protection software that came with my Dv6-3121nr. For some reason all of a sudden since this morning it won't work. There are no lights on the sensor and it does not respond to any swipe/movement. When I launch the Simple pass software and go to the fingerprints section, it says the finger print reader is not connected. Interestingly when I go to device manager I don't see any biometric devices listed under there. I read on another thread that some options from under biometic devices in device manager fixed the problem.
 
I've already tried uninstalling/reinstalling Simple pass from the recovery manager and have also uninstalled and updated the validity sensor but still no go.  Here are some other details:
 
Laptop model: Dv6-3121nr
Operating System: Windows 7 premium 64bit
Validiy Sensor DDK version: 4.1.139.0

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3. The fingerprints are stored in the fingerprint unit.
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12. Which with out Dell owners speaking up as a whole Dell engineering will not listen to the Dell Pro support.

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If Dell engineering was to update the firmware on the Broadcom USH allowing the USB port that the fingerprint reader is attached to be seen by the system then all would be resolved and windows would see the fingerprint reader as a biometric device instead of Broadcom USH w/ fingerprint touch sensor. This would work the same way a USB port on a hub sees a device. For example a memory stick on a USB hub intergrated into a keyboard is not seen as a "Keyboard w/memory stick".

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